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post #2101 of 2213
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Gotta admit that there's something cool about seeing a guy take on a dragon with a chain-gun. 

Right??

post #2102 of 2213

Not if he's wearing welding goggles, the innards of a grandfather clock, and plumbing pipe.

post #2103 of 2213

So so cynical. 

post #2104 of 2213
Nah. Not cynical. Just never got the steampunk thing and just made a snarky asshole comment.
post #2105 of 2213

Steampunk is cool yo.  It's all...  Flash and pizzaz WOOM POW OH WOW!

post #2106 of 2213

The Secret World is back at it with a Krampus-themed winter special that started yesterday. I didn't do a whole lot during Halloween, maybe I'll dive back in for the holidays.

post #2107 of 2213
Thread Starter 

I had a good time running the daily boss battle (I know there's an MMO term for this but my mind has gone blank) over Halloween but doubt I'll return for the Christmas event. I'm probably going to hold off until the new story content is released in 2018.

 

I feel a bit sad, actually, for finishing Tokyo. I had such a good time playing through all of the zones, and I miss that a little. I guess I could go back and do all the side-quests I missed but it wouldn't be quite the same. 

 

Also: I hope this Project TL game not only lives up to the marketing (it probably won't) but gets a decent name. There's no way "Project TL" isn't a working title. 

 

post #2108 of 2213
Freeman, did you snag any of the Challenge Mode artifact weapon skins while your WoW account was active? I've been reading that artifact weapon skins will be retained as transmog options once Battle for Azeroth arrives, but that the Challenge Mode skins won't be obtainable any longer, because Battle for Azeroth gear will make the challenges trivial. They're "I did it when it was hard" trophies.

I've got a wild hair up my ass about scoring these skins for my Demon Hunter's weapons now. The skin for the tank spec's artifact has the class symbol of the blindfolded demon built right in, and the skin for the damage dealer spec is a warglaive with blades of animated fire.





The quests to earn these are reportedly some really tough skill checks, so I'm eager to see if I can earn one or both before the end of Legion.
post #2109 of 2213

No sadly I never deep dope hard enough into Legion to get there :(

 

Perhaps I'll resub in the new year. 

post #2110 of 2213
I would expect that there's still plenty of time. We don't even have a release date for the next expansion yet.

I did pick up my second "hidden appearance" tonight (photos in the WTF Are You Playing thread). I've found them for both of my Demon Hunter's specs now, but the thought of stepping up my game to where I can earn these others sounds like it'll be fun.
post #2111 of 2213
Thread Starter 

Holy crap.

 

post #2112 of 2213

We live in a world with WoW and Wildstar and Guild Wars 2 and Black Desert Online and fucking ESO!!!  Who puts a 100 bucks into Rift for ANYTHING?

post #2113 of 2213
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It's ironic that Rift was always advertised as the free alternative to WOW, when the makers of that game clearly want to suck as much money out of its playerbase as possible. I'm actually wondering whether this is a last ditch effort to get ca$h before they close the game down. I don't ever hear people talk about Rift these days so I'm assuming its playerbase is probably dwindling at this point. 

post #2114 of 2213
I thought I had seen a company scrape the bottom of the loot box barrel when Cryptic finally put a Tier 6 Constitution class cruiser in Star Trek Online - but put it in a gamble box, with a miniscule chance, as a limited time offer. Trion is defying the very existence of the barrel's bottom and pulling out an Elon Musk tunnel drill to dig into the Earth's mantle.
post #2115 of 2213
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I'm actually wondering whether this is a last ditch effort to get ca$h before they close the game down. 

 

I'm sure it is, but it's bewildering they would charge so much. How many more would they sell at, say, a tenth of that?

post #2116 of 2213
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Am starting to look forward to Sea Of Thieves which is only a few months away from launch. I really like the art style and this newly-released video suggests there will be lots to do. Apparently it's cross-platform so I'll even be able to link up with a friend on his x-box (if I can convince him to buy it). It's all sounding pretty great!

 

 

post #2117 of 2213
The city guards in Orgrimmar and Stormwind are currently armed with red and blue lightsabers, respectively, to celebrate the release of The Last Jedi.



post #2118 of 2213

That's really cute. Wish I was still subbed just to laugh at that. 

post #2119 of 2213
When I resubbed, I had no idea how catch-up friendly it would be.

The day I discovered the challenge mode solo mission for the artifact weapon skins, I think my item level was somewhere between 825 and 850. Less than a week later, I'm sitting pretty at gear that's between 880 and 910, thanks to Argus crystal turn-ins and world quests.

(On the challenge mode: I've faction-changed my Demon Hunter from Horde to Alliance. I now feel two hundred percent prettier, which always helps, but the extra interrupt from the Blood Elf racial will certainly be useful when tanking as well. Yesterday, this Legendary cloak dropped for me. In addition to really bringing my whole outfit together, it also has a mountain of Stamina and turns Immolation Aura into a damage mitigating cooldown in addition to a damage dealer and a resource generator. I may be ready by the time the Broken Shores Mage Tower is rebuilt and I can attempt the quest again.)

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I'm on the right.




Now that the Nightfallen story arc quests are no longer gated behind the reputation grind, I've finally finished the "Good Suramaritan" part of the Legion Pathfinder Part 1 meta-achievement. The Nightfallen reputation itself is now a breeze, since you have access to the quests, and all I have left to do in order to score the first part of Legion Pathfinder is raise three other reps (Court of Farondis, Dreamweavers, and The Wardens) from Honored to Revered. A week-long event that grants a bonus to reputation from world quests begins tomorrow. This is gonna be cake.

Another lovely discovery was that the quest to obtain your class order hall mount is not locked behind Legion Pathfinder! It comes at the end of the Broken Shore quest chain, whether you've upgraded your Riding skill to unlock flight in the Broken Isles or not. I've named mine Beatrice.


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post #2120 of 2213
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Stop it. You keep making me think about going back but I know that I'll end up paying my subscription, only to hardly play it. It's strange; I played it every day for weeks but just don't think I can get back into it now I've taken a break.

post #2121 of 2213
WoW is tricky. You have to be in a very specific place to dive in hardcore and you can’t always force it I’ve found.
post #2122 of 2213
This has been my experience. Legion didn't hook me at launch, and the gating of content behind reputation dailies was the primary reason why. When the final raid tier arrives and the catch up mechanisms kick in, I love how many projects there are for me to work on.
post #2123 of 2213
I find the best way to play WoW is during the giant wasteland of the final raid tier. The balance us what it is and all the catch-up let's you really do what you want at your own pace without feeling rushed.
post #2124 of 2213
Mage Tower Challenge Update:

This is stomping the shit out of me.

Between the boss attack that kills you if you mistime your damage mitigation cooldowns, the adds that kill you if you mistime your interrupts, the fail condition that ensues if you don't keep the adds rounded up and away from the two friendly NPCs, the puddle of damage at the boss' feet that kills you if you don't kite him, the moving obstacles that damage you, and the secondary adds that shoot knockbacks at you, it's simply more than I can keep track of while using the default UI.

I'm too sick and Nyquil'd up to devote serious attention to it today, but the next time the Mage Tower is up, I'm going to try this again with the Deadly Boss Mods addon installed. It's a tool used by raiders specifically to reorganize information like this and present it so that it's within the limits of human cognitive psychology. Blizzard designs hard mode raids around the assumption that players are using tools like these, and it's possible that I've been going into the fight with one hand tied behind my back by not using it.

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Edited by Reasor - 12/26/17 at 1:11pm
post #2125 of 2213

My therapist keeps telling me I'm mistiming my damage mitigation cooldowns. She said I should stay away from bosses and Fox News.

post #2126 of 2213

Happy New Year folks!

 

So who's up for classic WoW when it's released? If it's handled exactly as originally intended there's no way I'm missing out. I'll be there with my rogue sapping players for 60 seconds at a time, wearing green whelp armor that forces players attacking you to fall asleep on a 30% proc rate, instant horde BG invites, PVP rank titles, and all the other little odds and sods that made vanilla so great. Man, I can't wait.

 

Since I'm assuming it will be a new game client there's a chance there won't be a US / Europe / Asia split and we can all bundle in on the same server and put these Alliance dogs down once and for all!

 

Let's kill some motherfucking humans!

post #2127 of 2213

Can I try it out just with my usual sub?  No additional fee?  I'd be interested to see the fabled adored old school Vanilla PvP people love so much.

post #2128 of 2213
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Glistennnnn! I was thinking about you recently, as I'd not seen you around for a while. Was worried you'd been eaten by hobbits. 

 

I'm not so interested in classic WOW. I think my 2018 MMO PVP needs will be covered by Crowfall.... unless it turns out to be a disaster. Not sure if it counts as an MMO, but I've also signed up for the  Conqueror'r Blade beta too. Who doesn't love a bit of multiplayer castle siege action every now and again? 

 

post #2129 of 2213
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Can I try it out just with my usual sub?  No additional fee?  I'd be interested to see the fabled adored old school Vanilla PvP people love so much.

 

You know as much as I do at the moment I'm afraid. Hopefully Reasor will be on shortly to spill the beans.

 

Man, you're going to love it. When you log on and are instantly invited to a PVP group, finishing a game and getting whispered by a tourist Ally hiding as a level 1 Horde, either raging or offering genuinely sportsmanlike congratulations. It's great. If they start up Classic WOW with battlegroups then they might as well not bother.

 

It's a shame you're not into it Sax, we could use a good healer!

post #2130 of 2213
My 2018 MMO (once I can pay myself from Destiny) will probably be ESO once again. I blame Reason and Sax for getting me back into that game. And I still have a ton of content to get through. Also right now my wife and I have been watching the extended LOTR trilogy (we have to watch it like old people, like one or two hours a night like it's a TV show), and that has been giving me the itch to go back to LOTRO, though it's been so long since I've played it I may have to start a new character.
post #2131 of 2213
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting back into ESO at some point this year as I enjoyed my time with it, and I'm impressed with how much content they've added since I've gone. I'm nearing the level cap in Destiny with all of my characters and the next expansion isn't until March so I might dip a toe in again soon. 

 

I'm also keeping an eye on Secret World Legends. They've been dropping hints that the next area might be India or Greece, which I wasn't expecting, but would certainly be interesting as both have myths and legends you can do things with. 

post #2132 of 2213
Pretty much all that has been announced about WoW Classic is the developers' intent to make it. There are no dates set. A new team is being hired for it, rather than take manpower away from WoW. At the time that the announcement was made at Blizzcon, they hadn't settled on which patch within Vanilla WoW should be the template (this was a period when the game changed very rapidly, not only through post-launch additions of content that had needed more time, but as the developers quickly learned lessons about the behavior of large congregations of players).

There's a "Classic Discussion" subforum at the official game site's forums page now, but at this early stage it mostly exists just to siphon all the arguments about what Classic should and shouldn't be out of General Discussion. I'll be interested in seeing it succeed, as there's surely a market for it. I'm not a part of that market.

Legion finally taught me the lesson that I should have learned from Pandaria and Draenor, about WoW's ability to keep delivering content patches in the modern day, and I'm planning on seeing Battle for Azeroth from start to finish instead of taking a year-long break and then playing catch-up at the end. I've finally lost my fear of LFR, which kicks open the door to a whole new kind of content for me*. I'm looking forward to the BfA's "Warfront" gameplay as well, to see if it's as RTS-inspired as it sounds.


*I've only killed eight raid bosses this expansion, but I have a back log of raid quests to knock out when I get around to it. I'm looking forward to hitting Antorus, the Burning Throne, in particular - the loot that drops there will be upgrades for me, even at the easy difficulty that is LFR.

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Edited by Reasor - 1/5/18 at 5:30pm
post #2133 of 2213

I really need to look into LFR. I've been playing WoW for over a year now and never even attempted a raid. 

post #2134 of 2213

I'm afraid of Raids.  Even LFR raids.

 

Luckily, WoW has built in this INCREDIBLE like...  Dungeon and Raid Bible thing that tells you everything you need to know about every fight, all the loot you can get etc.  Need to know how a certain fight works because you don't want to get yelled at for screwing it up?  Just open the in game bible and read up what the Tanks role is, what to do and how to do the mechanics. 

post #2135 of 2213
Yeah, the Dungeon Journal is amazing. It cuts out a lot of the bullshit that you get when it's an impatient drunk on your guild's VOIP channel trying to teach the fights.

In practice, the ones I've done at LFR difficulty so far aren't much tougher than Heroic Dungeons. I've seen some complaints about the Shivarra Coven fight in the Burning Throne raid, but even the guilds who do Mythic difficulty raids have complained that that specific fight is conspicuously harder than the two boss fights that come after it. That one fight might just be overtuned and in need of a nerf or three.
post #2136 of 2213
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It cuts out a lot of the bullshit that you get when it's an impatient drunk on your guild's VOIP channel trying to teach the fights.

 

You've always seemed patient enough to me.

post #2137 of 2213
Another nice thing about the Dungeon Journal is that it gives the developers free rein to put a little complexity in the dungeon fights. There's a boss in Vault of the Wardens who gains Haste and a shield if the tank uses one of their defensive cooldowns (the specific cooldown depends on the tank's class). When the dungeon was new and people were still gearing up for it, I knew to tell the healer to watch my health because I was going to take more damage on that fight. We weren't thrown into it blind.
post #2138 of 2213
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This is pretty funny. The creator of Ultima Online talks about what happened when his carefully cultivated "virtual ecology" system met players for the first time.

 

 


Edited by MrSaxon - 1/6/18 at 10:15am
post #2139 of 2213
I love this!
post #2140 of 2213
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In practice, the ones I've done at LFR difficulty so far aren't much tougher than Heroic Dungeons. I've seen some complaints about the Shivarra Coven fight in the Burning Throne raid, but even the guilds who do Mythic difficulty raids have complained that that specific fight is conspicuously harder than the two boss fights that come after it. That one fight might just be overtuned and in need of a nerf or three.

A feature of that Coven fight got adjusted in a hotfix patch today. A moving Whirling Blade effect that gets thrown around as a moving obstacle for players to avoid was doing damage way faster than the developers intended.
post #2141 of 2213
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The current rumors are that the first Beta test for Ascent: Infinite Realm are going to be happening in the next few weeks. Haven't found out how to sign up yet, but I'd admit to being curious enough to give it a go.

 

They've also just released the opening prologue for the game:

 

 

post #2142 of 2213
Tomorrow's WoW patch does a few things, including adding a new story chapter for players who have beaten the Burning Throne raid and expanding the size of the basic backpack for players who use account protection, but the big quality of life feature that folks have been talking about is the introduction of level scaling in the early quest zones.

This won't be as thorough as the level scaling in Elder Scrolls Online, where you can literally tackle any zone in any order, but players should no longer feel like they're wasting their time if they finish a given zone or even a given expansion before moving on.

The new level ranges for the zones break down like this (per WoWhead):

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Vanilla zones will scale to level 60, except for starting zones which scale to level 10.

You can choose to do Burning Crusade or Wrath of the Lich King in any order up to level 80.

Burning Crusade zones will scale to level 80 and start at a minimum level of 58 in Hellfire Pennisula.

Wrath of the Lich King zones will scale to level 80 and start at a minimum level of 58 in Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord.

You can choose to do Cataclysm or Mists of Pandaria in any order up to level 90.

Cataclysm zones will scale to level 90 and start at a minimum level of 80 in Mount Hyjal and Vashj'ir.

Mists of Pandaria zones will scale to level 90 and start at a minimum level of 80 in the Jade Forest.

Warlords of Draenor zones already scale to level 100 and nothing has changed.

Broken Isles zones already scale to level 110 and nothing has changed.


ETA: I got up late and the caffeine hadn't kicked in yet. WoW patches arrive on Tuesdays during server maintenance, not on Mondays.
post #2143 of 2213
C'mon more backpack space is the true gold here. Took em over a decade but we did it!
post #2144 of 2213
They said several Blizzcons ago that they really wanted to enlarge that damn backpack, but it's not coded like other bags and they had to figure out how to do it without breaking a ton of other things in the process.

Leveling a Death Knight will make a lot more sense now, as well; there's no more need to ponce about in Outland for ten levels, you can go straight from the class' starter zone to Northrend.

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Edited by Reasor - 1/15/18 at 11:18am
post #2145 of 2213
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Leveling a Death Knight will make a lot more sense now, as well; there's no more need to ponce about in Outland for ten levels, you can go straight from the class' starter zone to Northrend.
 

Oh thank you baby Jesus!

post #2146 of 2213
Aww, hell. I may have to put WoW on hold for a moment, because something's going down in Star Trek Online.

The first piece of a "Defense of Bajor" four-piece ship equipment set just became available, and what this tells me is that the Jem'hadar storyline that they teased last year is coming. There's some urgency on acting on this, because the first piece of the set is in this year's limited time anniversary event ship (a Tier 6 Bajoran Escort).

ETA: We'll see. I really may not bother right now. I've still got a mountain on unused Omega Upgrade doodads in storage from last year's anniversary event.
Edited by Reasor - 1/17/18 at 10:31am
post #2147 of 2213
Thread Starter 

That Bajoran Interceptor is pretty damned sweet. 

post #2148 of 2213
Yeah, it is. Whatever Bajor/DS9 story content is coming will still be there, though, whenever I do get back into STO, and upon further reflection I'd just as soon keep the feeling of momentum that I have with WoW right now.

I'm still finding new stuff in the Legion expansion. I've begun doing the weekly Archaeology quests in order to earn the "This Side Up" weapon transmog, and from this week's quest I got a doohickey that allows me to travel back in time when I'm at the haunted ruins of the magic academy on the coast of Azsuna. Talking to the living instructors, instead of their ghosts, allowed me to do some hidden boss fights and earn a Headmaster/Headmistress title that I didn't know existed. I just stumbled across it, because player scuttlebutt about Archeology died down after Cataclysm ended.
post #2149 of 2213
Thread Starter 

Not entirely sure if this is the right place for this, but I can't think of anywhere better.

 

If you're the kind of person who enjoys backing stuff on Patreon, you may find The Secret Lives Of Virtual Worlds to be worth a dollar or two. It's a podcast, created by a journalist, to document all of the weird and wonderful stories that pop up in online multiplayer games, whether it's the story of an all-female space pirate faction in EVE Online, or the tale of what happened back in 2006 when a WOW guild assembled all of the pieces of a unique item that would only be able to be used once. 

 

There are previews on the page and it sounds like it could be an interesting little podcast. He'll be releasing episodes to non-backers after a delay, so it might be worth keeping an eye on if you're interested in this sort of thing. 

post #2150 of 2213
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or the tale of what happened back in 2006 when a WOW guild assembled all of the pieces of a unique item that would only be able to be used once

Was it the Sceptre of the Shifting Sands? That was that Scarab Lord thing I mentioned a while back, that had guilds migrating from server to server so that every member who had a completed Sceptre could ring the gong and get the title.

This sounds like a terrific idea for a podcast, for much the same reason why I thought the video of Richard Garriot explaining his failure to predict player violence against animals was so great. MMOs are such a laboratory for studying human motivation.
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