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post #2151 of 2213
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It was indeed, Sir. Let nobody say you don't know your WoW!

post #2152 of 2213
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Let nobody say you don't know your WoW!

 

Hell, when Blizzard has questions about WoW they call Reasor.

post #2153 of 2213
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Leveling a Death Knight will make a lot more sense now, as well; there's no more need to ponce about in Outland for ten levels, you can go straight from the class' starter zone to Northrend.

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Oh thank you baby Jesus!


Ha ha! About that. Yes. Hmm.

I didn't want to climb all the way up from level 1 with a new alt to test the level scaling, so I made a Death Knight. I came out of the starting experience and into the game proper at level 57, half a level away from being able to accept quests in Outland or Northrend. I can kill the mobs in Northrend, and experimented with just grinding the bastards for experience so that the questgivers would notice that I was there, but it was terribly slow going.

Tomorrow is another extended maintenance period, during which there's going to be a shit-ton of bug fixing on the level scaling (in dungeons and old raids, mostly). Tonight I'm going to goof around in one of the old world zones, which scale up to level 60 now, and see how many quests it takes to get Northrend-ready.

This week's patch also included quests in Orgrimmar and Stormwind to get the selfie camera toy if you didn't pick it up in Warlords of Draenor, so I do have that to amuse myself with. The results aren't pretty, but given the face I'm working with, they weren't going to be.



As a curious aside, the Orc to my left is Saurfang. His new character model, the proof of concept for the coming fix for Orc posture, appears to have replaced every instance of the old model. I expected to see the new model in Orgrimmar, but this is the Wrath of the Lich King quest hub in the Borean Tundra.
post #2154 of 2213

"When I think of Warlords of Draenor, I think of my Selfie Camera Toy."

post #2155 of 2213
By Doomhammer, there are going to be selfies. I've been wanting a way to make my screenshots spicier.
post #2156 of 2213
Speaking of the Sceptre of Shifting Sands, a weekend-long holiday event commemorating that insanity starts tomorrow in the States and is already live in the EU.

(Link goes to the game's British site, if I'm reading the URL right).

Silithus is affected by level scaling now, and the boss monsters that players are going to be summoning there scale all the way up to the current level cap, so this might be an interesting opportunity to level new characters, like Legion's demon invasion launch event was, while still providing a change of scenery and something fun to do there for people who've been attacking Legion's endgame content for a while.
post #2157 of 2213
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As we watch Star Citizen get further and further away from their initial release date, and do more and more to milk their backers for money, I thought this article on what happened when Mark Jacobs' upcoming, crowd-funded MMO Camelot Unchained fell behind and required more money. 

 

Spoiler: He paid for the extra costs out of his own pocket.

 

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"It hurt my bank account a lot because I wasn't a billionaire or super-rich by any standard," (Jacobs) said. "But look, I made a deal, and I told backers I would do it. It's our fault. It was on us as a development team to deliver the game; we did not. The bottom line is we did not meet what our projections were. I made a choice and it wasn't an easy one: do I honour our commitment to those same people who gave us this chance by not treating them as walking wallets, or not?

"I understand why these other games do it but that was not for me. That's not how I wanted to live my life and run this studio. There were some very strong arguments to be made that if people are willing to spend the money, you should try to get it from them. I don't buy that. I don't. I want to treat gamers the way I want to be treated. There's a better way to do things."

post #2158 of 2213
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Signed up for the Beta to upcming isometic F2P MMO Dead Maze after reading a write-up over on MMORPG.com.

 

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Combat is pretty satisfying, with pretty much any object in the world outside of food and drink being usable as a weapon - even dinner plates can kill the undead. They break, have different stats, different attack speeds, and use more or less of your stamina bar to swing. But you can also combine most everything in the world with other things to make unique weapons like a kitchen knife and a wood plank to make a spear. It’s borrowing from Dead Rising in that aspect.
 

There’s a good story so far to Dead Maze, mystery behind different factions, interplaying relationships between characters, and so forth. It can be a little roughly translated, but nothing jarring (the Atelier 801 guys are French)... I’m excited about the crafting system, the questing, and the prospect of building up my homestead as I go. I’m curious about how you earn new skills, as leveling up doesn’t seem to do much aside from offer you one of three rewards (items or stuff for your house) to choose from. I’m curious to learn more about the social aspects, as you’ll see plenty of other players roving about the game’s camps and open world zones too (you travel between them via “bikes” that act as sort of portals). There are bound to be clans, perhaps guild housing, and more down the road. I’m curious to see if dungeons and the like are added too. 

 

Sounds good but we'll see. I like the cartoony art style at least.

 

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post #2159 of 2213
There will be mohawks: The customization options for Battle for Azeroth's playable Zandalari Trolls turned up in WoW's most recent test build.

ETA: After I posted this, WoWhead datamined the flight and ground travel forms for Zandalari Troll Druids. God damn. I say God damn!

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edited by Reasor - 1/26/18 at 10:54am
post #2160 of 2213
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Do you think Legion will be free when Battle For Azeroth comes out? That might get me to dip my toes back into WOW. 

post #2161 of 2213
The old expansions get rolled into base WoW when a new one drops so it should be.
post #2162 of 2213
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The old expansions get rolled into base WoW when a new one drops so it should be.

Yeah, they're really good about not nickling and diming people who want to join on. (They basically want it to be as accessible as possible, so that it can get its hooks into you.) Looking at their shop right now, they've got two products, "World of Warcraft" and "World of Warcraft: Legion." The former is literally everything up to the end of the expansion before Legion. I forget when they started bundling them like this, but this is their consistent track record now.

Battle for Azeroth should also come with a level boost token that can push one of your toons to 110 and let you get into the new content right away, but my experience with Legion was that you level from 100 to 110 very fast in that expansion's quest zones.

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Edited by Reasor - 1/26/18 at 11:08am
post #2163 of 2213

Secret World Legends is running an "open all the chests" weekend. It started on Thursday and runs until tomorrow, so naturally I got an email about it today.

 

https://www.mmobomb.com/news/secret-world-legends-drops-no-limits-weekend-lets-players-open-chests-want/

post #2164 of 2213
The announcement of some kind of pre-order for WoW's "Battle for Azeroth" expansion is expected to be imminent; the mounts and pet that come with the Collector's Edition of the expansion appeared in the in-game Collections tab after today's small patch.






The expansion's release date is expected to be revealed in today's Developer Q & A live stream, which starts in an hour at noon Pacific, 3 PM Eastern. Sorry about that, I hadn't had my coffee yet.
Edited by Reasor - 1/30/18 at 10:53am
post #2165 of 2213
Hope they talk a little about class changes. That raptor mount is cool though.
post #2166 of 2213
There's a lot of hype over today's Q & A. WoW Tokens are going for 20k gold more than this time last week. Somebody's been trading their gold away for game time. There's been a lot of speculation that the first four Allied Races might become playable well before Battle for Azeroth arrives, and possibly real, real soon.
post #2167 of 2213

Anyone want to resub with me and get together to do some Legion stuff?  I love ESO a lot and will be playing that, but I can't stay away from WoW for long.

post #2168 of 2213

I wish WoW would drop the subscription thing. If I could buy it straight up sans latest expansion I'd be all over that. But I've made my feelings on game subscriptions clear. 

post #2169 of 2213
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Anyone want to resub with me and get together to do some Legion stuff?  I love ESO a lot and will be playing that, but I can't stay away from WoW for long.

Right now I'm kind of in maintenance mode after a hard push to get all of the Legion reputations to Exalted. I log in every few days to clean out the Emissary dailies that have piled up and score some easy gold from the mission table in my class order hall. Eventually I'm going to get around to clearing out the quests in my log to do the Temple of Sargeras and Burning Throne raids, but I'm still recharging for now. I don't want to be burned out when the expansion hits.

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I wish WoW would drop the subscription thing. If I could buy it straight up sans latest expansion I'd be all over that. But I've made my feelings on game subscriptions clear. 

If you're making gold, your gameplay can pay for itself when you buy WoW tokens. It also keeps people who are tempted to buy gold from risking their credit cards on sketchy Chinese web sites; their card number stays on Blizzard's website and they get their gold from honest players.
post #2170 of 2213
I would still play if there was no subscription. I mean it will rope me in but I like to pretend I'm a big serious grown up for not succumbing yet.

I would imagine allied races will come with the pre expansion patch.
post #2171 of 2213
This just went up on the patch notes site for Blizzard's first person shooter:
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When you pre-purchase a Digital Deluxe version of World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth you’ll receive several Warcraft-themed goodies in Overwatch. Show your faction pride on the battlefields of tomorrow with emotes for Tracer; Horde- and Alliance-themed voice lines for Torbjörn; Anduin, Jaina, Sylvanas, and Saurfang sprays; and Kul Tiras and Zandalar player icons.

I really, really think they're going to make the pre-order available today.
post #2172 of 2213
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I really, really think they're going to make the pre-order available today.

And this is why I should learn not to post about events in progress: Pre-orders for the expansion just went up on the Blizzard store (link goes to the U.S. site).

It won't complete the transaction at the precise moment that I'm posting this, but it'll surely be active before close of business today - probably once eager nerds like me stop accidentally DDOSing it and throwing our money at our monitors.

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Edited by Reasor - 1/30/18 at 11:49am
post #2173 of 2213
WoW's website right now:


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post #2174 of 2213

Nerd.

post #2175 of 2213
Those new Tracer emotes:




There's also an Alliance version, in case you want to bring shame to your family or something, I guess.
post #2176 of 2213

OK that's it.  Lets all play Legion and then play Overwatch with Tzu's wife. 

post #2177 of 2213
Just logging in to WoW has been a crapshoot since the developer live stream ended. My guess is that lapsed players came out of the woodwork with the announcement of the pre-order; aside from complaints about not being able to log in, the forums are full of people who are just now finding about the reputation requirements to recruit the four new races added today.
post #2178 of 2213
Minimum and recommended hardware specs for Battle for Azeroth were released today. If your computer was designed to run Windows 7 or 10 and has a video card that came out around the same time as either of those two operating systems, you're probably good. Blizzard is well aware that requiring advanced gear limits the size of their market.

I did the quests to unlock playable Highmountain Tauren and Nightborne Elves on my account last night. I've considered using the level boost token that came with my expansion pre-order to make a level 110 Alliance toon in order to do the similar quests for the Lightforged and the Void Elves, but it seems wasteful.

I found these quests to be pretty cool. In yesterday's developer Q & A, Ion Hazzikostas framed the core concept kind of like this: rather than introduce the new race in a level 1-10 or 1-20 zone where you have one or two spells on your action bar, they're putting the player in the position of Thrall in the Goblin starting zone or the Night Elves in the Worgen starting zone. Your experienced character gets to meet these people, you get to know them, you help them with their problems, and then you recruit them.

It remains to be seen whether I'll play any of these races. The Nightborne do have a shaved head option, the first I've seen on an elf in Warcraft, and I do have a weakness for characters that can look like Max Schreck in Nosferatu. We'll see.


post #2179 of 2213
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post

Minimum and recommended hardware specs for Battle for Azeroth were released today. If your computer was designed to run Windows 7 or 10 and has a video card that came out around the same time as either of those two operating systems, you're probably good. Blizzard is well aware that requiring advanced gear limits the size of their market.
 

 

One of my friends, and his girlfriend, gave up WOW around Legion because their older computers wouldn't be able to run it. I guess this'll put the final nail in the coffin for them when it comes to that game, which is sad. 

post #2180 of 2213
Are they running Windows XP? Because even Microsoft stopped supporting that OS with security updates. Maybe refer them to TzuDohNim's PC thread; there was a good discussion of how to make a new PC budgetable there.
post #2181 of 2213

Since when is WoW a resource hog? 

post #2182 of 2213
Every now and then they add something that really challenges out of date hardware. Shafts of sunlight, reflective surfaces on water, ground clutter and spell effects, that kind of thing. I noticed a night-and-day difference when I replaced my Burning Crusade era PC at the launch of Cataclysm. My current system should still be several years away from obsolescence, but I notice my framerate drop like a rock during LFR runs, when 24 other players and I are blazing away at the same boss monster.
post #2183 of 2213

You should be able to play the game on low no problem. 

post #2184 of 2213
Yeah, but I'm not an alchemist in WoW, so I don't need ghetto herb detection, ergo I crank that shit up to the max. There's a method to my madness, sir.
post #2185 of 2213
I meant people with low end computers in general I apologize.

I run everything in WoW cranked and the game is... honestly very gorgeous in the new areas. Broken isles is art directed incredibly well.
post #2186 of 2213
I've been getting flooded with guild invites since the Battle for Azeroth pre-order became available. If anyone's looking for a guild on their server, a lot of them look to be entering a build-up phase in preparation for the new expansion.
post #2187 of 2213
An Elder Scrolls Online patch that's coming on the 12th will implement some improvements to combat that the developers have been thinking about.

Synergies will be easier to find and use, as ground effects that your abilities can interact with will be more clearly marked.

Costs of blocking are being reduced, so that everyone can do it without gimping their DPS by dumping all their Stamina out.

Interrupts will be assisted by a better visual display of which enemy spells can be interrupted and which can't, so that you don't waste an interrupt and have it still recharging when you do need it.

Enemies that have been knocked Off Balance will no longer have the Off Balance debuff prematurely lifted when one player moves in with a heavy attack, allowing whole dungeon parties to take advantage of Off Balance to deliver heavy hits before it expires.

Source: The Elder Scrolls Online
post #2188 of 2213

All of that sounds... good? To me, at least. Time for another dungeon run!

 

Oh, also, Secret World Legends has some 25% XP buff going this weekend, Thur/Sun.

post #2189 of 2213
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I'm glad that they're doing something about making synergies more apparent. Often, by the time I see the prompt come up to do something, it's too late. 

post #2190 of 2213
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Often, by the time I see the prompt come up to do something, it's too late. 

 

Seconded. I always see it and reach for the button too damn late. If it was used more I'd map it to a mouse button.

post #2191 of 2213
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One of my friends, and his girlfriend, gave up WOW around Legion because their older computers wouldn't be able to run it. I guess this'll put the final nail in the coffin for them when it comes to that game, which is sad. 

I finally got around to running comparing what I've got to Battle for Azeroth's minimum and recommended specs today. I've got the minimum hardware or slightly better, but I'd be looking at hundreds of dollars to have the recommended. I had forgotten how prices on CPUs and graphics cards are currently artificially high, because cryptocurrency miners have put so much demand on them that they're getting scarce.
post #2192 of 2213
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Ironically, my friend (who stopped playing WOW when his old computer couldn't handle it) jumped across to Destiny (and then Destiny 2) on the xbox. Haven't spoken to him for a few weeks but, as those games are dying, it wouldn't surprise me if this prompts to invest in a better computer system so he can jump back to WOW. 

post #2193 of 2213
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I finally got around to running comparing what I've got to Battle for Azeroth's minimum and recommended specs today. I've got the minimum hardware or slightly better, but I'd be looking at hundreds of dollars to have the recommended. I had forgotten how prices on CPUs and graphics cards are currently artificially high, because cryptocurrency miners have put so much demand on them that they're getting scarce.

 

With the Bitcoin in freefall let's hope those prices drop soon so we can snatch up some delicious goodies. 

post #2194 of 2213
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One of my favorite MMO guys at the moment, is a Malaysian streamer / Youtuber called GRMAdrian. He's played virtually every MMO under the sun, and I sometimes find myself watching his streams during workbreaks. Anyway, he's always avoided WOW until it recently won a viewer poll. As a result, he levelled his first character to max over the last few weeks, and has just released this video about the game, from the viewpoint of a new player. 

 

Thought I'd stick it here because he's a super-nice dude, and I'd love to help his channel grow.

 

 

post #2195 of 2213
The level scaling system that Blizzard recently implemented made the pace of leveling feel a lot better to me, when I was derping around with my Lightforged toon. It's no longer 100 levels of one-shotting mobs without learning anything about your class and spec, but it's not the slow motion hell that awaits the emulator pirates when they get their Classic WoW servers.
post #2196 of 2213
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I watched the latest pre-alpha development Ashes Of Creation stream this morning whilst eating my breakfast and have some thoughts.

 

1. I continue to be a little concerned about the combat. I don't mind tab targeted combat (although few games have ever done it as well as WOW), but I was kind of hoping to see something along the lines of ESO's combat, albeit better (seeing as that MMO came out almost four years ago). I want to be able to dodge incoming attacks, and have the capability to miss if I don't aim correctly. They seem to have dropped the weird combo system they had at PAX, and so I hope they keep redefining it and we get something exciting at launch.

 

2. I'm really in two minds about the node system (which spawns events and features depending on how many players are in an area, and what they do in that area). I like how it spawns a giant monster at random for them to take down but I wonder how annoying it's going to be that villages, towns and cities are created at random (and that they can be destroyed). 

 

3. For a game that's twelve to twenty-four months away from release, it looks pretty good. Especially, as the lead developed points out, the pre-Alpha has only been in development for less than six months. Pretty amazing. 

 

4. Really like that they're sticking to classes having certain advantages outside of combat. You're a ranger? Well, now you can see stealthed enemies, or track footprints to help your group. It really brings back the D&D feel of people choosing certain classes not because they gave an extra dice roll in combat situations but because of their roleplaying uses. Dungeons And Dragons Online has a much simpler version where Thieves can spot traps and so-forth, so I'm happy to see this getting expanded on. (By the way, do you know that they recently announced that this game will have 64 classes!)

 

5. Being able to breed different mounts to create better mounts is a nice touch. I'm surprised nobody has thought of this before. 


Edited by MrSaxon - 2/11/18 at 3:30am
post #2197 of 2213

So when are we going to do more ESO stuff?  Cause that was fun for me!  Also I know I keep threatening to resub for Legion...  I am truly a Blizzard whore.

 

Saxon what about that airship steampunk one how's that coming?

post #2198 of 2213
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

Saxon what about that airship steampunk one how's that coming?

 

Not heard a lot about it. Last I heard, there's an Eastern Beta running in the next few weeks, with a Western Beta to follow, but we've not been given a release date so far. 

 

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So when are we going to do more ESO stuff?  Cause that was fun for me! 

 

 

I've got a four day weekend coming up (thanks to me working this weekend, and having an unspent vacation day which had to be allocated before the end of March) so.... shall we try to set something up for this coming weekend? It's easier to get four people together for ESO than six for Destiny, after all. 

post #2199 of 2213
I'd suggest a skyshard hunt in Cyrodiil for everyone who hasn't ransacked the place to get the free skill points lying around, but it's a lot of travel on the ground and I don't know if everyone has their horse riding speed cranked up. Barring the unexpected, I'll be available for whatever.
post #2200 of 2213
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You want to venture into a PvP area with Freeman? Brave man! :)

 

Perhaps we can mix it up and throw in a dungeon run too. Regardless, I'm sure we'll work it out by next weekend.

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