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post #101 of 128

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Oh this is going to be a flaming disaster and that's a shame since it's one of my favorite book series.  As for the inclusion of the horn, it's basically their excuse to pick and choose from the books and make their own mess of a film.

 

 

I am SO HAPPY they seem to be including the Horn.  It's GREAT that they can pick and choose what to put in the film because there is less of a chance of it shitting the bed as spectacularly as the last 3 books do.

post #102 of 128

Yeah, I think it's a little too early to outright state that it's going to be a "flaming disaster".  I really want this to work; especially with the casting of Elba and Mcconaughey.

post #103 of 128
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I am SO HAPPY they seem to be including the Horn.  It's GREAT that they can pick and choose what to put in the film because there is less of a chance of it shitting the bed as spectacularly as the last 3 books do.

Ohh I have no problems with them changing the last 3 books. 

post #104 of 128
This series was already a mess before the last three books. A vivid, emotionally engaging, imaginative mess, but a mess nonetheless.
post #105 of 128
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This series was already a mess before the last three books. A vivid, emotionally engaging, imaginative mess, but a mess nonetheless.

Nah, the first 3 books were wonderful. Wizard was fun but I know they will leave most of that stuff out. I liked many parts of the last 3 books but there is so much to cut and improve. I can promise you that if they make it that far King os certainly gone as well as the ending. Also im guessing the wolves aren't using light sabers.

post #106 of 128
I'm not convinced a faithful adaptation would be workable at all, this seems a sensible way to go.

It has been pointed out that all the fuss about the horn creates a pretty big risk of spoiling the ending of the whole series for newcomers! Whoops.
post #107 of 128
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I'm not convinced a faithful adaptation would be workable at all, this seems a sensible way to go.

No things NEED to be changed but you can't fuck up what works. Like im hearing that certain big Jake moment has changed and that is SO fucking important to not only Roland's character but to the story. 

post #108 of 128
I actually love the Dark Tower, the final book. I understand why people dislike a lot of it, but I liked father's exit in the Pig, I loved the various exits of all the characters, yes I even love what mordrid did to you know who and I'll explain why if I have to. I even sort of liked the Crimson King thing and LOVED the very ending.
post #109 of 128
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I just reread the whole series, and I totally agree with that. Song of Susannah is a weak book, mostly because it's just connective tissue between 5 and 7, and most of the lame narrative stuff is confined to it, but otherwise I think the final run of Dark Tower is pretty damn good.
post #110 of 128
It's a bleak, emotionally devastating death march to the finish line. If they get one single thing right about Roland I pray it is that they understand that his obsession with his quest over everything defines not just the character, but kind of the whole story.
post #111 of 128
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It's a bleak, emotionally devastating death march to the finish line. If they get one single thing right about Roland I pray it is that they understand that his obsession with his quest over everything defines not just the character, but kind of the whole story.
Um...
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In the earlier draft, which has been rewritten some but is still being used as the overall template for the story structure, Roland has abandoned his quest for the Dark Tower.

Throughout the course of the story, Jake gradually convinces him that he needs to pursue it.

Edited by Agentsands77 - 5/21/16 at 3:45am
post #112 of 128

Ugh, the old

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Refusing The Quest

trope. Joseph Campbell has a lot to answer for.

post #113 of 128
What?!

WHAT?!?!
post #114 of 128
Yeah. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
post #115 of 128
So instead of "there are other worlds than these" I get a fun pep talk for a mopey Roland?

... I seriously need to step away from the Internet for a few hours, or I'm going to go fucking NUCLEAR.
post #116 of 128
Didn't mean to ruin your day, Freeman.
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This movie is not a true adaptation of THE GUNSLINGER. It starts from real-world Jake's POV, dives into the Western stuff for a bit, then brings Roland into our world for a good while, before returning to Roland's world toward the end.
post #117 of 128
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Didn't mean to ruin your day, Freeman. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This movie is not a true adaptation of THE GUNSLINGER. It starts from real-world Jake's POV, dives into the Western stuff for a bit, then brings Roland into our world for a good while, before returning to Roland's world toward the end.

Ugh.

post #118 of 128
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I still think it'll be good.
post #119 of 128
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I still think it'll be good.

If you are wrong can I punch you?

post #120 of 128
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if you can find me/singsong voice
post #121 of 128

Elba and McConaughhey make it seem like it would be worth checking out but the stuff y'all are saying about the script make this sound like the worst adaptation since World War Z. 

 

But this is far more horrifying because TDK is such an important work to many King fans.

 

Is Howard still attached to this as a producer? Because if he is, it is time to abandon all hope. 

post #122 of 128
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if you can find me/singsong voice

I see you have no faith in your statement.

post #123 of 128

I'm not gonna let rumors of an old script bring me down on this. The thing has been rewritten since then.

post #124 of 128
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I see you have no faith in your statement.

Of course I don't have faith in it. It's impossible to know one way or the other right now, and based on the reported changes, I'm curious what they're up to.
post #125 of 128

I'm joining Arjen and Shreds in Team Optimism. Everything's going to be okay, guys! Trump won't become U.S President, the UK will finally vote to leave the European Union, Bradley Cooper's sham of a movie career will finally implode, and The Dark Tower will be awesome! 

post #126 of 128
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post #127 of 128
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Originally Posted by Shreds View Post

I'm not gonna let rumors of an old script bring me down on this. The thing has been rewritten since then.
Yeah, but in addition to the various reports from the rumor mill, the director confirmed that that the old Akiva Goldsman script did lay the foundation for what they're doing, and that Goldsman had effectively figured out a structure that worked for the parties involved. So while we can't be sure of all the details, the basic structure of the story seems to be carried on from that early draft.

So, yeah. Keep your expectations in check. I think there's still plenty of room for it to turn out to be a good movie in its own right, but, no, this isn't going to be The Gunslinger adaptation fans have been desperate to see.
post #128 of 128
I'm back. I'm ok. I'm good with change.

*looks at that jake thing again*

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4R-FvEKgM
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