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"IT'S NBA MEDIA DAY. BASKETBALL IS BACK. WOOOOOOOOOO"

 

People unfairly taking shots at D. Rose. Again. I'm still pulling for my guy.

 

Roll out your predictions whenever.

 

My excitement level for this season is at its highest since '08.

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I would predict Rose predict Rose would get hurt again but he beat me too it.  And I don't think he's receiving unfair shots.  When, unprompted, you talk about free agency  years away you deserve to get roasted.

 

The East is all Cleveland.  They win.  the West will be wide open again.  Whomever comes out of the West will beat the Cavs in 5 or 6.

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It's a job, Rose understands that.

 

I like his fire going into the season:

 

""I can't get caught up into that," Rose said, referring to talk about his game. "I know I'm great. It's a lot of people that don't know I'm great, that's the thing. But it's cool. I know I can hoop. You can put me anywhere, and I know how to play the game of basketball."

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I like his fire going into the season:

 

""I can't get caught up into that," Rose said, referring to talk about his game. "I know I'm great. It's a lot of people that don't know I'm great, that's the thing. But it's cool. I know I can hoop. You can put me anywhere, and I know how to play the game of basketball."

Some people talk about how great they are.  Others SHOW how great they are.  I am so sick of him talking about his greatness and then missing 30 games in the regular season.  Sure it's better than missing the entire season but showing up is important.

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http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/995712/derrick-rose-makes-clear-priority-list-starts-free-agency-two-years

 

 

He's so out of touch.  Why talk about free agency two years out, especially when you haven't come close to fulfilling the contact you already have?  He's a bit of a liability at this point, and I think if you were to ask a lot of Bulls fans if they would rather be spending the $20 million on Rose, or have that as open cap space to spend elsewhere they would take the space.

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Honestly, his max contract IMO is the worst contract of this decade. If they took that 20 mil and split it between other players there might actually be someone who can challenge Lebron's Eastern dominance. I don't blame the Bulls or even Rose for it, but it doesn't change the fact the Bulls are one player away from being true contenders and Rose is in the way. 

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How old is Rose? 26? Can't write off a dude yet.

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No but you can't sign him to a 100+ million dollar contract in 2 years either.

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I don't think he's a bad player, but he's worth maybe 8-9 mil with how fragile he is and how much his injuries have hurt his game. MVP Rose was a force, but is current Rose any better than someone like Lawson or Conley? Not really, and you're not even going to get him for a full season.

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Rockets Talk: Looks like Coach McHale plans to play Beverley and Lawson in backcourt at same time. And he would like James Harden to 'play off the catch more often and play free without worrying about heavy ball handling'. Curious to see how these moves play out.

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Twitter Truth: "Josh Smith gotta hold the NBA record for most straight away jumpers that miss wide left"

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I just heard the Bucks fired Moncrief. I was looking forward to catching some early Bucks games, and he was one of the most knowledgeable announcers you'd come across around the League.

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Best backcourts in the NBA? Steph + Thompson, BEARDFORCE + Lawson and then everybody else, right?

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Some good ol' fashioned trash talk:"Doc Rivers attributes Warriors easy run (last year) to not having to play Spurs or Clippers"

 

This season is going to be FUN!

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"I know Steph Curry didn't do this last night."

 

https://twitter.com/theDYNAMICS/status/651390459546345472

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Some good ol' fashioned trash talk:"Doc Rivers attributes Warriors easy run (last year) to not having to play Spurs or Clippers"

 

This season is going to be FUN!


Stupid trash talk.  The Warriors were there in the WCF.  Shitty Clippers weren't.  Not the Warriors fault Clippers couldn't make it.

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Guess I better stop posting the old thread....

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Matt Barnes attacked Derek Fisher for dating his ex-wife over the weekend...

 

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I get where you're comin' from, Matt.
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My Pre-Season Top 10 Power Rankings:

 

1. OKC

2. Cleveland

3. San Antonio

4. L.A. C

5. Houston

6. GS

7. Chicago

8. Memphis

9. Miami

10. Dallas

 

I think S.A. is a serious contender if Tony Parker bounces back. I'm hoping he's not done.

post #23 of 1614
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Props due: "Dwight Howard just told us on Texans Radio that he played through a torn MCL and meniscus during the WCF vs the Warriors"

 

You know people hate on him, but he's been a force in last 2 playoffs. His D was the tipping factor in comeback knock off of Clips.

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"Super B-Day to Gus Williams. If you can look at this without wanting the Supersonics to return, you have no soul."

 

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Wizard. One of my favorite players. Used to watch old Sonics games everytime NBATV would run 'em. He was BAD.
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Twitter Truth: "Seeing Jorge Soler round those bases makes me wish NBA players could wear gold chains again"

 

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post #26 of 1614
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Just discovered this Twitter account "nba debates".

 

Interesting Q:

 

"If the nba had to reset all the roster and no team had the rights to anyone & everyone had the same contract who would be the 1st 5 drafted?"

 

Can't believe how many folks don't have KD in their top 5 a year after an MVP Season.

 

Me:

 

1. AD

2. KD

3. Harden

4. Curry

5. Russ

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Mavs in the Top 10? Elvis, my dawg!!

I missed the new thread, so forgive my absence. Here's a quick summary:

 

Fuck D. Fish.

 

I hope Chris Paul doesn't torpedo the league in the off-season because he's still pissed about the Lakers Veto.

Jesus Christ, D. Rose.

 

LARRY SANDERS?!

Lamar Odom was 6MOY four years ago. Seems like way longer.

 

I got Toronto falling off hard, I got the Kings as Must Watch, smart money is on OKC, personally rooting for Memphis. Eager to see if the Dubs can channel all this negativity into a higher level of play. I'm sick of the Spurs. As always, fuck the Clippers. Rick just needs to relax. I got the Knicks as a sleeper out East. I hope everything bad happens to Cleveland and nobody else. Chris Bosh pimping medication is hilarious considering he got that blood clot from boosting. 

 

But most of all: good lord am I ready for some basketball.

post #28 of 1614
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I'm hearing Kyle Lowry dropped a lot of weight and is killing it in preseason. I actually like Toronto as a top 5 in the East.

post #29 of 1614

Yeah my Toronto Implosion prediction was from before Lowry 2.0 showed up. But I'm gonna stick with it.

I will say the new Toronto court is Top 3 tho. Love it.

 

Hornets

Toronto

Lakers

 

honorable mention to the Pacers for keeping it classy.

 

Link cause its kind of hard to find

http://www2.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.aspx?The+Toronto+Raptors+unveiled+their+brand+new+court+design+featuring+the+team%27s+new+logo+&id=562837

post #30 of 1614
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What do ya think of the Pacers playing George at the 4? I don't like it since he's such an ideal wing.

post #31 of 1614

Lowe did a pretty exhaustive analysis of it, saying it would help unlock his true potential by letting the Pacers play faster than other teams. I can definitely see PG going for 40 a game with regularity.

The issue is, and was always going to be, how he would hold up physically trying to guard opposing big men. To that, we can only wait and see I guess.

But the real Hidden Agenda there is if George is spacing the floor from the 4, that opens up lanes for Monta to slash and kick, slash and score. That's what Monta does best. So I think Vogel is clearly trying to accommodate their new signing, get the team playing at a fast tempo, have Monta create while George spaces and dominates on offense. If they can do that, then the defensive questions become less pressing. But running it like that is going to present other problems, as fast as depth goes. The Pacers got nobody. Gotta turn off automatic substitutions in 2k because you end up subbing in garbage, and its already hard work generating buckets with that starting 5.

post #32 of 1614

Pinning your hopes on the creativity of Ellis is foolish, he is a second tier volume scorer who does not make his team better.  

post #33 of 1614
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I know we'll never see it again, but GS era Monta was so exciting and fun to watch. He was one of my favorite players ever. And his first year in Dallas showed he could help a team win.

post #34 of 1614
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Nate Jones Twitter Truth: "Hip-Hop music and sneakers peaked 20 years ago. 95-96 was so FIRE for both."

 

"Penny 1, Jordan XI, Air Max Uptempo 95, Zoom Flight 95 in ONE season."

 

"Death Row gave us Dogg Pound "Dogg Food" and Pac's "All Eyez on Me" in 95-96."

 

"The Bulls went 72-10 in 1995-96."

 

"Cedric Ceballos went to Lake Havasu in the middle of the season in 1995-96."

 

"So yeah 95-96 was just fire"

"Magic came back fat and out of shape after not playing an NBA game for 5 years and was still servin. 95-96 was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

 

"Civilization has basically been in decline since 95-96."

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Pinning your hopes on the creativity of Ellis is foolish, he is a second tier volume scorer who does not make his team better.  

 

That's simply not true. 45% from the floor and 6 ASTs a game doesn't 'make his team better'? The weakness in his game is a poor 3-point shot, but that has nothing to do with his creativity. He's one of the best assisting 2 Guards in the league. No idea where you are coming from with that. Yes, he needs the ball to be effective. Not like the Pacers have an over-abundance of ball handlers. 

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It's kind of amazing how suddenly the Bucks are one of the hippest teams. They're doing everything right (except firing Moncrief), and I think the Monroe signing gives them the boost to elite East.

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That's simply not true. 45% from the floor and 6 ASTs a game doesn't 'make his team better'? The weakness in his game is a poor 3-point shot, but that has nothing to do with his creativity. He's one of the best assisting 2 Guards in the league. No idea where you are coming from with that. Yes, he needs the ball to be effective. Not like the Pacers have an over-abundance of ball handlers. 

One way player. 

post #39 of 1614
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Crucial for the Bulls to win the East: a return to All-Star level from Noah. He was 4th in MVP votes just two seasons ago. He's the soul of the team. However...I'm worried of tales of him struggling adapting to new system... so some worry.

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Noah is a smart player, the system won't be a problem. The real concern is if his body can get back to where it needs to be. 

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Everybody's thinking Pelicans, but the Jazz are my sleeper 8 seed in the West.

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The Way I See the East Right at This Moment Power Rankings:

 

1. Cleveland (boooooooo)

2. Chicago

3. Miami (may actually be the biggest East playoff threat to Clev)

4. Toronto (Joseph and Carroll underrated vet editions)

5. Milwaukee (can't wait to see how this team plays this year)

6. Washington (if Beal takes a step up, they're a solid 4)

7. Atlanta (I didn't believe in them last year, so i'm predicting a fall off)

8. Boston

post #43 of 1614
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Great read.

 

Joakim Noah's California summer could make Bulls a contender

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25342065

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I LOVE "Open Court". This is probably my favorite episode.

 

 

 

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As I've said before, I'm fascinated by the 70's. As pointed out in that clip, a transition period between eras with unparalleled parity: 8 diff champions, no one going back to back. Would've been so fun to live it. Everything up in the air. And I'd love to see something like that again.

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Greatest Season ever?

 

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Everybody's thinking Pelicans, but the Jazz are my sleeper 8 seed in the West.

 

Pellies gonna be ~6 seed. I can definitely see Utah getting in. There's gonna be one elite Western Conference team that shocks everyone and falls out entirely.

post #48 of 1614
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Recollections of the Lamar Odom that I knew, and the concept of family

 

http://www.si.com/thecauldron/2015/10/19/lamar-odom-los-angeles-lakers-trade-family-recollections

 

"If anything catalyzed Lamar’s downward spiral, though, it may have been the failed Chris Paul trade. The Lakers were more than just Lamar’s team. They were his on-the-court family, the culmination of a professional basketball life that began in the dysfunction of Donald Sterling’s Clippers, improved in a season with the Miami Heat, and then blossomed in Los Angeles. No one ever loved being part of the Lakers more than Lamar Odom. I don’t think the Lakers' management—or anyone else, for the matter—really grasped how deep his feelings were for the franchise, how profoundly he felt part of something meaningful, until Los Angeles attempted to trade him to New Orleans without any warning. He might as well have been stabbed in the heart.

 

Feeling hurt and betrayed, Lamar asked to traded, and I’ve always wondered whether he really wanted that, or if he simply wanted the Lakers to tell him, "We’re sorry, Lamar. We really want you here." Either way, Los Angeles made good on his request, sending him to Dallas, and from there, things begin to unravel."

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"On 10year anniversary, story of NBA Dress Code & how it challenged Allen Iverson, racism, hip-hop & today's fashion"

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-nba-s-fashion-game-has-evolved-in-the-10-years-since-the-2005-dress-code-060252761.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

 

"Ten years ago on Oct. 17, 2005, NBA players received a surprising memo from then-commissioner David Stern. A league-wide dress code was going into effect. No more baggy jeans. No fitted baseball caps. No XXXL white T-shirts. No Timberland boots. Oversized necklaces – even ones with religious pendants – were also out.

 

Players were not happy. Some jokingly called it the "A.I. rule" after Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson. Some thought it was racist toward black players or a slap at the hip-hop community.

 

"I remember a lot of guys being upset with it," said San Antonio Spurs forward David West, who was then playing for the New Orleans Hornets. "A lot of guys thought they were being too intrusive. … I just remember feelling like, 'Damn, I'm a grown man and someone is telling me what to wear.' "

 

"The NBA's mandatory dress code was for all NBA and NBDL players, who were expected to wear business-casual attire while participating in team and NBA activities that included arriving at games, departing games, conducting interviews and making promotional and other appearances. Specific penalties weren't announced, but repeat violators were subject to fines.

 

"It was like us versus the league," former Detroit Pistons guard Chauncey Billups said, "and there was a little tag going on us on who we were and what we represented, the black players, the whole hip-hop culture."

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I have long thought that dress code was made for the wrong reasons but ended up with great results.

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