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post #351 of 484
also some stuff in Interstellar

when I heard the ticking during the 6 minute DUNKIRK IMAX preview, I immediately thought

"c'mon, nolan/zimmer! do something else!!!"

but then I heard about the temporal strata

that's when I knew the movie truly had me in its clutches
post #352 of 484
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Originally Posted by 3nnui View Post
 

Saving Private Ryan did the whole war as spectacle bit so well with the D Day landing that I just don't know why I would bother going to see this.

Well, Im interested not for the war angle, but because of the evacuation force angle.

I'm expecting more suspense than spectacle in this, to be honest.

post #353 of 484

click click clackety clack click click clack clack clack

 

There's nothing in there that Nicholas Britell and Daniel Pemberton haven't been doing, but better. 

post #354 of 484

This could be a function of listening to it on youtube, but the other thing about it is the lack of low end in the sound mix. There's a lack of rumble that takes away some of the urgency to the track, I think.

 

Although, considering how oppressive the bass could get during Interstellar / TDKR / Inception, maybe Nolan, Zimmer and the sound editors heard all the complaints and adjusted?

post #355 of 484

To be honest, the main competition to this movie is Atonement's 5 minute tracking shot of the Dunkirk shores during the evacuation.

Holy hell, that whole sequence is magnificent.

post #356 of 484
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

click click clackety clack click click clack clack clack

 

There's nothing in there that Nicholas Britell and Daniel Pemberton haven't been doing, but better. 


Pemberton's King Arthur score is GREAT. Haven't seen the movie, but the score alone is so dope.

post #357 of 484
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
 

To be honest, the main competition to this movie is Atonement's 5 minute tracking shot of the Dunkirk shores during the evacuation.

Holy hell, that whole sequence is magnificent.

That's an amazing shot, yet the sole point of it is to make you say "what an amazing shot."

post #358 of 484
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

That's an amazing shot, yet the sole point of it is to make you say "what an amazing shot."

I think that was pretty intentional, as the film's ending reveals why the scene itself feels hollow.

Its visually striking, but its emotional impact is non existant...specially when you compare it to the simple (yet far more emotinally wrecking) scene of Vanessa Redgrave* revealing why that scene felt hollow.**

 

**But to be fair, Vanessa Redgrave acting/emoting pretty much trumps over most visual shots/sequences.

*Thats one of the reasons I love that whole movie, actually.

post #359 of 484
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
 

I think that was pretty intentional, as the film's ending reveals why the scene itself feels hollow.

Its visually striking, but its emotional impact is non existant...specially when you compare it to the simple (yet far more emotinally wrecking) scene of Vanessa Redgrave* revealing why that scene felt hollow.**

 

**But to be fair, Vanessa Redgrave acting/emoting pretty much trumps over most visual shots/sequences.

*Thats one of the reasons I love that whole movie, actually.

I have got to watch Atonement. I read the novel and loved it, but never saw it. 

post #360 of 484

woooof, Atonement left me cold in theaters

 

I never revisited it

post #361 of 484
I enjoyed not watching Atonement.
post #362 of 484

maybe the AC was too high...

post #363 of 484

Hated ATONEMENT apart from that long tracking shot.  The ending is a complete insult.

post #364 of 484

And I guess I'll be the only person to say that he likes that Zimmer clip from the score.  Zimmer's pretty much a blind buy for me at this point, though.

post #365 of 484
I liked the first section of Atonement to some extent, even if the accents and performances were clipped and mannered to the point of being robotic.

The rest was drab and I'm on the side that thought the tracking shot was just showing off for the sake of showing off. It was was more like a music video than a scene in a film. It loses nothing watched out of context, and the story would lose nothing if it was chopped out entirely.

Joe Wright movies make me think he must be even more of a cold-blooded reptile than Nolan!

Oh and the Dunkirk music? I liked it. Yeah it's nothing new but the slow building tick tock rhythms worked for me, and should would work well in context so long as Chris did a good enough job mixing them strata.
post #366 of 484
yay strata!!
post #367 of 484

But are they temporal??

post #368 of 484
volumetric!
post #369 of 484
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

And I guess I'll be the only person to say that he likes that Zimmer clip from the score.  Zimmer's pretty much a blind buy for me at this point, though.

 

Didn't hate it. Didn't love it. It was just sorta there, sans context. And I'm a pretty big Zimmer fan.

post #370 of 484
I've said it before, maybe in this thread, but among Nolan's skillsets is that he is clearly an exceptional pitchman...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/07/08/spitfires-flotillas-boats-rough-seas-1000-extras-christopher/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw
post #371 of 484
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I've said it before, maybe in this thread, but among Nolan's skillsets is that he is clearly an exceptional pitchman...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/07/08/spitfires-flotillas-boats-rough-seas-1000-extras-christopher/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

 

That actually did a better job selling the movie to me than the trailers have done.

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post #373 of 484

It's funny that I instantly decide not to take note of another batch of tweets from an early showing, and yet I then become worried by the only negative remark amongst them. Still, I do hope that the comment about there being "zero distinctive personalities/characters" is wrong. 

post #374 of 484
gonna do my best to stay away from reading anything more about the movie

won't read those tweets

GOING IN BLIND FOR THE STRATA!!!
post #375 of 484
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

Early word is great:

http://www.slashfilm.com/dunkirk-reviews/#more-427011

Encouraging stuff, but I'm curious about this spoilerish element some of those people are hinting at.  We know the movie isn't going to be fully linear or chronological storytelling, but there seems to be an implication of something even beyond that.

post #376 of 484
Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

Early word is great:

http://www.slashfilm.com/dunkirk-reviews/#more-427011

 

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 Stephen Whitty?: Can’t wait to review “Dunkirk,’ a mix of modern storytelling (interwoven timeframes), classic filmmaking (real Spitfire dogfights) #Dunkirk


I'm intrigued by these 'Interwoven timeframes' of which he speaks. I feel like there's another way that could be phrased, but I can't put my finger on it...

post #377 of 484

Shifting spacial paradigims? 

post #378 of 484

Sequential plane integration?

post #379 of 484

It used to just be called in the editing world "intercutting". 

post #380 of 484
TEMPURA WRAPPAZ!!!
post #381 of 484

Timey-wimey wrap-around!

post #382 of 484
Maybe it's secretly a To Say Nothing of the Dog lead-in*!


*a million points and free long-distance medical advice for life to anyone who gets that.
post #383 of 484

Does it count if I Google it?

post #384 of 484

Also, I hate the blue tint/filter/overlay or whatever it is in the trailers, and all of those filters in general.

post #385 of 484

No, no. That's what it actually looks like in Dunkirk. Blue filter everywhere!

post #386 of 484

it's actually the missing lyrics to jerusalem

 

"and did those feet in ancient time

walk upon Dunkirk's blue tinted green"

post #387 of 484
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

It's funny that I instantly decide not to take note of another batch of tweets from an early showing, and yet I then become worried by the only negative remark amongst them. Still, I do hope that the comment about there being "zero distinctive personalities/characters" is wrong. 

 

Nolan has been explicit that this film is not going to do much conventional character development, exposition, dialogue, etc. I think you are supposed to care about the characters because of just the intensity of the situation they are in, and you are supposed to feel it with them as much as possible, and want them to survive. And also because they are cute and some of them are Harry Styles.

 

But seriously, I think this is going to be Nolan's Black Hawk Down, basically.

post #388 of 484
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Nolan has been explicit that this film is not going to do much conventional character development, exposition, dialogue, etc.

Yeah, this definitely comes across in the 6 minute IMAX preview.

 

Black Hawk Down sounds like a good comparison.  Except DUNKIRK is much shorter!

 

I think this would be a problem if Nolan made DUNKIRK as long as his recent films (usually around 2.5 hours).

 

But at under 100 minutes?  I'm inclined to be much more forgiving.

post #389 of 484
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Originally Posted by wasp View Post
 

 

Nolan has been explicit that this film is not going to do much conventional character development, exposition, dialogue, etc. I think you are supposed to care about the characters because of just the intensity of the situation they are in, and you are supposed to feel it with them as much as possible, and want them to survive. And also because they are cute and some of them are Harry Styles.

 

But seriously, I think this is going to be Nolan's Black Hawk Down, basically.

 

Cool. This sets my mind at ease a little. I really do hope this is Nolan's Black Hawk Down.

 

It's funny that the trailers didn't make me very excited for the movie, but then I hear things like this, and I read Nolan's article, and the guys on The Watch were chattering about it briefly this week because of the roundtable featurette, and suddenly I'm VERY excited. It's been ages since I've seen a really gripping war movie. 

post #390 of 484
Just realized this is the first film since Insomnia that Nolen decided not to cast his "lucky charm", Michael Caine.
post #391 of 484
Michael Caine is in the film, you're just not going to see him on camera.
post #392 of 484
By the by, what with all of the whinging about the jingoism of war films, I think it's a healthy thing, in this time of resurgence for fascist mores, that we're reminded that a lot of brave men and women got together to put a bunch of evil fuckers into the ground.
post #393 of 484

Review embargo is up. Two of the three reviews I've read (Indiewire/Guardian) call it Nolan's best film, and the third (THR) is a rave review as well.

post #394 of 484

lots of talk about fractured time in those reviews

 

variety also called it his best

post #395 of 484

So did The Wrap. And EW, while not calling it Nolan's best, does call it the best film of the year so far.

post #396 of 484

I'm beginning to suspect this Christopher Nolan fella may have a future.

post #397 of 484
So do you guys think this will be any good?
post #398 of 484

Not as good as the original star wars on blu-ray.

post #399 of 484
Boone will never forget. Boone will never forgive.
post #400 of 484
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Boone will never forget. Boone will never forgive.

 

"When they ask you if Dunkirk is any good, tell them that Nolan remembers. Tell them Star Wars came for Brads blu-ray."

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