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STAR WARS: ROGUE ONE (Gareth Edwards, 2016)

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A prequel to A NEW HOPE that focuses on the team that steals the Death Star plans. Starring Felicity Jones, Forest Whitaker, Mads Mikkelsen, Donnie Yen, Alan Tudyk, Ben Mendelsohn, Diego Luna, Wen Jiang and Riz Ahmed. Carrie Fisher, Hayden Christensen, Lupita Nyong'o, Anthony Daniels, Jimmy Smits, Ian McDiarmid and James Earl Jones are rumored to reprise their roles. There has been talk of bringing back Peter Cushing as Tarkin via CGI and motion capture. Discuss!

 

http://cdn.chud.com/3/36/36517f71_rogue-one-cast-photo.jpeg 


Edited by Barry Woodward - 12/29/15 at 1:16am
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I wonder how POST-HUMAN an Edwards film will be this time uh huh huh huh...

 

Are Christensen, Smits and McDiarmid actually in this?

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"General Kenobi. Years ago, you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope." - Princess Leia Organa

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I wonder how POST-HUMAN an Edwards film will be this time uh huh huh huh...

 

Are Christensen, Smits and McDiarmid actually in this?

Remember how fucking good Godzilla was?   Love that movie.

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barry, I'm going to feed you to my tarantula

 

Freeman, did you actually love Edwards' dullzilla?  I can't remember.

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Great a Star Wars thread!

We've been needing one of thee around here for ages!!¡!
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Imagine Jimmy Smits (as Bail Organa) walking into Maz Kanata's bar to hire a team of thieves to steal the Death Star plans.

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barry, I'm going to feed you to my tarantula

 

Freeman, did you actually love Edwards' dullzilla?  I can't remember.

I was the great champion of that movie.  I was the Mountain, blundering around loud and rapey.  You were the charming Prince, spinning around with your spear...  I won.

 

That movie is like a how to for the kind of Jurassic moments I wanted in World.  Trevorrow should have learned from that movie.  

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Imagine Carrie Fisher reprising her role as Princess Leia (circa 1976) with the latest in CGI de-aging technology.

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Even with the best CGI she'd still just look like Maz Kanata.

Awww that was mean (I liked her TFA), and she's looked great in all the promo tours she's been on.
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I hope the only old characters we see are Vader and Tarkin.  Who kind of have to be there.  

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No Palpy?

 

http://cdn.chud.com/c/c7/c764089c_vader-palpatine-touching-lightsabers.jpeg


Edited by Barry Woodward - 12/29/15 at 2:11am
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Barry has to be the kind of nut that refers to his Panasonic products as Pannys.

Or something else gross.
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Honestly, the presence of Mads Mikkelson is more than enough for me to be really excited about this. I hope he's playing Rebel in deep cover as an Imperial. I can't remember if that was a rumor I heard or just idle speculation.

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I don't even like Palpatine.  The Emperor.  He's the Emperor.

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Honestly, the clear break that TFA makes with the Prequels makes me think and hope they're not going to do any of that nonsense with Smits or Palpatine or any "nods" to the prequels. My guess is that, McGregor aside, they're going to be barely acknowledged going forward. 

 

I'm excited for this - because smuggling and fighter pilots are my jam in the SW universe - but the presence of General Nux/Domhall Gleeson in TFA makes me wish they weren't going the CGI route for Tarkin. I'm holding out hope that's who Mads is playing. 

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I never want to see or hear any reference to the Prequels ever.

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They were talking about doing a Ewan MacGregor as Kenobi film for one of these offshoots, right? Was it the Magnificent Seven-inspired thing? That sounded pretty OK. Actually sounds better than that Han Solo one.

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I hadn't heard that, but since McGregor (and Neeson and Palpy to some extent) were the only ones to escape the Prequels relatively unscathed and with dignity intact, it makes sense that they would find a way to bring him back if they could, even for a voice cameo part here and there. 

 

The "CGI Tarkin" rumor strikes me as being akin to the prequels' worst impulses when it comes to special effects, and calls to mind the words of Prophet Ian Malcolm: 

"You, ah, spent so, uh, much time thinking about whether or not you could, you, ah, didn't stop to think whether or not you should, uh....could." 

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They were talking about doing a Ewan MacGregor as Kenobi film for one of these offshoots, right? Was it the Magnificent Seven-inspired thing? That sounded pretty OK. Actually sounds better than that Han Solo one.

I think we maybe willed that along, at least the Seven Samurai inspiration.  

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Weird how the current iteration of the Star Wars universe is apparently filled with badass English girls. Guess someone important in Disney is a fan of those Tomb Raider games or something.

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Jedi Magnificent Seven is a good idea, dammit!

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No give it a rest. Star Warring gets dull when the Force is front and centre.

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I want a Han Solo VANISHING POINT

I want an Obi-Wan DIE HARD

I want a Boba Fett FISTFUL OF DOLLARS/YOJIMBO

I want a Leia THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT

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I wonder how this movie will feel when played right before A New Hope, or rather how ANH will feel like after watching this. I bet he goes after gritty realism (didn't I hear Saving Private Ryan in space at some point?) and I bet it will clash completely with ANH. I hated Godzilla uuggghh.
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Gritty realism ala SPR works for SPR because it's SPR - but gritty realism put through the Disney family-friendly filter removes so much of what made SPR so great.

We're never ever going to get anything other than PG13 fare from here on out. We're also never going to get heavy Dagobah-like character moments anymore either now Disney is holding the cash. We're getting fun and excitement - albeit skewed for a family audience.
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Gritty realism ala SPR works for SPR - but gritty realism put through the Disney family-friendly filter removes so much of what made SPR so great.

We're never ever going to get anything other that PG13 fare from here on out. We're also never going to get heavy Dagobah-like character moments anymore either now Disney is holding the cash. We're getting fun and excitement - albeit skewed for a family audience.

 

So much for my Anakin UNFORGIVEN.

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It's funny how on a movie site when we're given carte blanche to come up with new ideas for SW movies we look to want existing movies and just want them remade in the SW universe.

I don't want a Seven Samurai remake or Oceans Eleven or Escape from New York etc - I want someone to come up with a new concept. Come up with a new classic. Come up with something, anything that isn't a redressed version of an existing idea.
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It's funny how on a movie site when we're given carte blanche to come up with new ideas for SW movies we look to want existing movies and just want them remade in the SW universe.

I don't want a Seven Samurai remake or Oceans Eleven or Escape from New York etc - I want someone to come up with a new concept. Come up with a new classic. Come up with something, anything that isn't a redressed version of an existing idea.

 

So...no Padme BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S for you?

 

In all seriousness, I'm not actually wanting Disney to just plunk Obi-Wan into the Nakatomi plaza and have him say 'Yippee Kai Yay, Mother Fucker!'...I'm just talking about how you'd pitch it.  These are easy concepts to convey. 

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Yeah they're easy concepts because we know the obvious tropes and story beats these various movies employ - and so we've seen them already.

I know this is Hollywood, but imagine trying to pitch a completely original idea that's set in the SW universe. And I know this is easier said than done and not being a writer I couldn't come up with a genuinely original idea on a message board, but surely there are writers out there that can come up with something we've yet to see in any genre.
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Yeah they're easy concepts because we know the obvious tropes and story beats these various movies employ - and so we've seen them already.

I know this is Hollywood, but imagine trying to pitch a completely original idea that's set in the SW universe. And I know this is easier said than done and not being a writer I couldn't come up with a genuinely original idea on a message board, but surely there are writers out there that can come up with something we've yet to see in any genre.

 

For what it's worth, I totally agree with you in a desire to see something completely new and original.  My suggestions were just quick and easy ways of getting an overall concept across...any sort of original spin or twist on the formula would come in the actual script process.  

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I'm just curious to find out how long one Star Wars movie a year is sustainable no matter how different they are..
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I'm just curious to find out how long one Star Wars movie a year is sustainable no matter how different they are..

 

Marvel shows that it can be done.  As long as we have more WINTER SOLDIERs than DARK WORLDs, we'll be fine.

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I hope that's true. But Star Wars just feels like a narrower niche than Marvel. Joe Six Pack can't (and doesn't care to) distinguish between Marvel movies like X-MenDays of Future Past and Winter Soldier. There's probably still some people out there honestly expecting to see Hugh Jackman pop up in an Avengers movie.

They're gonna have to come up with some weird, off the wall shit to sustain public interest. For example, the only Boba Fett movie I'm interested in seeing is something akin to My Dinner with Andre where Fett and another unfortunate alien pass the time in the Saarlac's bowels with conversation as they're being digested..
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George's recent selective memory is not endearing.

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There are never enough spaceship movies, George.
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He just comes across as bitter. I really really wish he'd shut the fuck up and prove his point that you don't need spaceships etc for a great movie, just great creative ideas (which I agree with) and just go out and come up with something great, finance it himself and recreate his earlier success. Either that or shut the fuck up, because as much as I really like him as an artist (albeit deluded) he's never reached the creative and groundbreaking heights of his earlier career. Everything he's done post-Last Crusade has been (rightfully) ripped apart. Either put up or shut up George.
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This is the same interview where he talks about how much more freedom artists had in Soviet Russia (though he probably means the days of Eisenstein instead of how things went under Stalin) and jokes that selling SW to Disney is like selling his children into white slavery.  It's a weird one.

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Haters should check out Outlaw Vern's recent Lucas Minus Star Wars series for a reminder of how much offbeat cinema Lucas helped get made in his prime.
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Lucas is responsible for getting both Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters and Willow made. He's cool in my books.

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Haters should check out Outlaw Vern's recent Lucas Minus Star Wars series for a reminder of how much offbeat cinema Lucas helped get made in his prime.

His take on the new movie itself is so very close to my own too!

 

We shall call ourselves... THE REASONABLISTS

 

If you disagree with us, then you're clearly the unreasonable one.

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I want a Han Solo VANISHING POINT

I want an Obi-Wan DIE HARD

I want a Boba Fett FISTFUL OF DOLLARS/YOJIMBO

I want a Leia THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT

 

I want an Uncle Owen / Aunt Beru STRAW DOGS.

 

We never saw what led to those charred remains. Those stormtroopers sure were pissed about something...

 

 

 

Regarding this movie - inside buzz I've caught isn't positive.  Wrapped last Saturday(19th), seemed a lot of hard work went into it regardless.... 

 

 

As for personal feelings, after seeing Snoke I'm less than confident ILM can pull off a CG Tarkin if *that* rumor's true. 


Edited by GhettoWolf - 12/29/15 at 1:14pm
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Oh, and regarding that denofgeek link to the Lucas interview
 
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 He goes on to explain how the rise of digital-technology-based effects ended up increasing these abuses exponentially since it became much easier to churn out genre-aimed flavor-of-the-month releases that lacked heart and imagination

 

I don't hold George Lucas responsible for "raping my childhood" or any other melodrama, but regarding the above quote I'm pretty sure he must've been the guy responsible pushing and pushing for digital more and more. I wish Rick McCallum were more of a Gary Kurtz character though. 

 

A big question is: Was it Star Wars or was ILM itself, the beast that SW birthed, the main culprit behind the "exponential" increase of abuses of digital tech? Lucas was fine with management bidding for and then working on said "abusers" so what's the opinion on that?

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Heh. The veneer is starting to wear off Disney Wars.
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I want an Uncle Owen / Aunt Beru STRAW DOGS.

 

We never saw what led to those charred remains. Those stormtroopers sure were pissed about something...

 

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I was listening to an old podcast from around the time Abrams was announced as director of Star War. The podcast discusses the "Jedi Magnificent Seven" rumor. Guess who was attached? 

Zach Snyder. 

 

like they say in thirteen days, we'll never know how close we came 

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I'd watch it!

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Do you think we'll see characters from STAR WARS REBELS make live action appearances in ROGUE ONE or any of the other upcoming films?


Edited by Barry Woodward - 12/30/15 at 9:59am
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Let's hope not.
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