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post #12101 of 12254

No real spoilers (fucking Variety dropping a cameo with no warning, for instance). 

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From Drew’s review:
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But that digression allows Johnson to take the series in directions that I didn’t expect, and that is thrilling considering how many times in the last 34 years I was convinced I would never really see another Luke and Leia adventure. There are moments here that are so great, so central to the series now, that it’s hard to honestly digest it quickly.

This gets me so excited. I’d see the film alone for that. The fact that the film could be more boggles my mind.
post #12103 of 12254

Two of the more interesting reviews I've read:

 

Rubin Safaya, Cinemalogue

http://cinemalogue.com/2017/12/12/star-wars-last-jedi

 

Richard Brody, New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/star-wars-the-last-jedi-reviewed

post #12104 of 12254
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Two of the more interesting reviews I've read:

 

Rubin Safaya, Cinemalogue

http://cinemalogue.com/2017/12/12/star-wars-last-jedi

 

Richard Brody, New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/star-wars-the-last-jedi-reviewed

 

How spoilery are they?

post #12105 of 12254
The both seemed rather spoilery in places. I attempted to skip around them before it got specific.
post #12106 of 12254

Wow, that New Yorker review shows love for the prequels in a pretty significant way.

 

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 I desperately miss the pseudo-Shakespearean dialectical wrangles and the exhilarating sense of C.G.I. discoveries that mark George Lucas’s last forays into the franchise—their sense of renewed personal investment in a cinematic universe that seemed to be growing ever more complex before its creator’s eyes, their sense that its creator was personally wrestling with a world that was escaping his own control and taking on a life of its own.

 

For what its worth, I mostly agree with him there. Won't be rushing out the door to check out LAST JEDI.

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Did he miss the stilted acting, lifeless action sequences, poorly executed drama as well? I mean, sure, they’re Lucas’ very own visions and world building. Could even argue they’re impressionistic paintings. But I wouldnt dare argue more.
post #12108 of 12254

Different strokes, my man.

 

I'll take weird and interesting, with questionable execution, over rock solid cookie-cutter crap all day, every day.

 

#teamgodsofegypt

post #12109 of 12254
Nobody is arguing for cookie cutter. But let’s be honest, Lucas’ big renewal contributions to the saga came from Episode 1. 2 and 3 felt like obligations as he sat back comfortably in a chair stroking his beard and getting more and more concerned with the visuals over the story and characters.
post #12110 of 12254
I mean, they're not good movies, but they're also not Generic Potted Corporate Movie Product extruded into a Star Wars patty, so there's that.
post #12111 of 12254
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Nobody is arguing for cookie cutter.

post #12112 of 12254
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Okay maybe I’m arguing for that nearly full moon on the left.
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How spoilery are they?

Yeah, the Brody review goes into a lot of detail about a specific scene. Best to skip the first few paragraphs, as after that he specifically says he won't spoil anything else.

post #12114 of 12254
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I mean, they're not good movies, but they're also not Generic Potted Corporate Movie Product extruded into a Star Wars patty, so there's that.

 

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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
 

Different strokes, my man.

 

I'll take weird and interesting, with questionable execution, over rock solid cookie-cutter crap all day, every day.

 

#teamgodsofegypt


Guys, see The Last Jedi.

 

Seriously.

 

You might not like it.  You might hate it.  

 

But it's not cookie-cutter.

post #12115 of 12254
The only people calling the new film cookie cutter are fhose that haven't seen it yet.
post #12116 of 12254
This is what Hollywood wrought. None of us can even comprehend that something might have slipped through.
post #12117 of 12254
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The only people calling the new film cookie cutter are fhose that haven't seen it yet.

 

The guy from the New Yorker definitely saw it.

 

Not saying that's the end-all be-all on the topic. But its a thought thats out there.

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Guys, see The Last Jedi.

Seriously.

You might not like it.  You might hate it.  

But it's not cookie-cutter.
Nah. Fool me once, shame on J.J. Abrams. Fool me twice, shame on J.J. Abrams.
post #12119 of 12254

I'm gonna see it!

 

And I'm excited!

 

And it's free!

post #12120 of 12254

 I have heard that Rolling Stone's review is a tad bit on the spoilery side.

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Different strokes, my man.



 



I'll take weird and interesting, with questionable execution, over rock solid cookie-cutter crap all day, every day.



 



#teamgodsofegypt


 



You must hate sand, too.
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Nah. Fool me once, shame on J.J. Abrams. Fool me twice, shame on J.J. Abrams.

 

TESB: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

​ROTJ: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

TPM: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

​AOTC: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

ROTS: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

​TFA: The climax of the film is a lightsaber duel.

​TLJ: The climax of the film is the absolute best lightsaber duel you will ever see. It's so good, and it is especially crafted with the cynical Star Wars fan that accepts no alternatives to the OT in mind. In fact, I don't know if calling it a lightsaber duel really does the scene justice. It's really something else. I mean for the first time in my life I actually wish I was not fully spoiled before going to see a Star Wars.

If I didn't like TFA, I would at least give TLJ a chance based solely on this. But that's me.


Edited by Itsnotatumor - 12/14/17 at 4:55am
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​TLJ: The climax of the film is the absolute best lightsaber duel you will ever see. It's so good, and it is especially crafted with the cynical Star Wars fan that accepts no alternatives to the OT in mind. In fact, I don't know if calling it a lightsaber duel really does the scene justice. It's really something else. I mean for the first time in my life I actually wish I was not fully spoiled before going to see a Star Wars.

Gah. Need it to be tomorrow night right now. First time since ‘83 I’ve gone into a Star Wars movie knowing less than 99% of what happens.
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Gah. Need it to be tomorrow night right now. First time since ‘83 I’ve gone into a Star Wars movie knowing less than 99% of what happens.


​Trying really hard not to spoil a thing, but the film actually does break the mold on what a typical Star Wars film has been. Anything could happen next, and that's an awesome experience for SW fans that hasn't really been a thing since before TESB. That doesn't necessarily mean people will love it, but for what it is Rian Johnson really does seem to have made what is as far as the Skywalker Saga is concerned a very unique entry in the series that stands out and is not afraid of doing new things.

post #12125 of 12254
A blast A bit plot heavy in the middle but always fun. One Leia moment is a bit goofy.
post #12126 of 12254

I'd LOVE to have all prints of TLJ to have this shipped out to them today:

 

post #12127 of 12254

Yeah, I don't see it until tomorrow morning, but aside from the trailers I've seen/read almost nothing about this.  It'll be exciting!

post #12128 of 12254
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I'd LOVE to have all prints of TLJ to have this shipped out to them today:



Ah that gives me chills. That’s how the Lucasfilm logo will always look.
post #12129 of 12254
I mean, the Star Wars opening fanfare resolves from the end of the 20th Century Fox fanfare. You can't not do that.
post #12130 of 12254
Hey guys dont go on reddit.

I mean, thats good advice in general. But if you specifically care about not having MOVIE TWIST spoiled, dont go there, because its at the top of the front page.

Oh well, at least I got last nights NBA scores.
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All I have to do is survive until tonight to remain unspoiled.  I'm SO close.  It was around this time before TFA that Han's death got spoiled for me by Kylos hands.  NOT AGAIN INTERNET!

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HAN DIES?

WTF MAN!

post #12133 of 12254
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Hey guys dont go on reddit.

I mean, thats good advice in general. But if you specifically care about not having MOVIE TWIST spoiled, dont go there, because its at the top of the front page.

Oh well, at least I got last nights NBA scores.

Good man. Spent the day hanging curtain poles so I didn’t go in the Internet but was just about to quickly check my reddit thread.

Just need to find some busy work for tomorrow now.
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SNOKE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!

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HAN DIES?

WTF MAN!

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So apparently the Reddit onslaught is being led by /r/The_Donald users who are pissed about the Alabama election and taking it out on the world by posting and botvoting up TLJ spoilers across various subreddits.

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I was surprised to hear that Luke and Leia got it on in this one, especially considering I thought we had abandoned the incest thread since the Return retcon. But Johnson loves him some Oldboy, so...
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So apparently the Reddit onslaught is being led by /r/The_Donald users who are pissed about the Alabama election and taking it out on the world by posting and botvoting up TLJ spoilers across various subreddits.
Everything you need to know about Reddit in one sentence.
post #12140 of 12254

didn't read fully for fear of spoilers but Chaw's review over at Film Freak Central is quite interesting. He gave it 3 out of 4 and the general tone of his review is quite positive, but you can tell he's got issues with it. he says up front that he considers Rian a friend and is rooting for him, so I think there's a tension there between whatever his problems with the movie are and his good-will towards Rian and what Rian does well as a director and storyteller.

post #12141 of 12254

Okay so, don't take this to heart and get your expectations out of whack or anything. But I'm a recovering spoiler junkie and well it's too late for me on this film, so I bit the bullet and watched some footage of several key scenes from the film. What I just saw with my own two eyes was bar none the most Star Wars anything that has been produced since 1983, not nostalgic romp kind of stuff either that was clearly manipulating me to think about stuff I saw before in a very vague and stupid JJ Abrams kind of way. What I have seen legitimately evoked the same kind of feelings as some of my favorite moments from the OT but did so genuinely. 

​Maybe everything else in the movie sucks. But I am not gonna lie, I teared up a little bit, whereas previously I was not impressed with JJ Abram's take on Han in TFA, it just felt like a poor shell of the character. There's honestly some beautiful moments in this film and I can't wait to see it properly tonight.



 

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Nnnnnngghhh.

All this plus the best actor nomination chat around Mark Hamill.
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Nnnnnngghhh.

All this plus the best actor nomination chat around Mark Hamill.


Is that seriously a thing?  Because living in a world where Mark Hamill wins a Best Actor Oscar while Harrison Ford doesn't is simultaneously hilarious and sad to me.  (Obviously a nomination is not a win, but still)

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Witness II: The Last Amish will garner Ford a win, trust me.

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Witness II: The Last Amish will garner Ford a win, trust me.

 

RETURN TO THE MOSQUITO COAST: STILL BUZZING

post #12146 of 12254
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Originally Posted by Itsnotatumor View Post
 

Okay so, don't take this to heart and get your expectations out of whack or anything. But I'm a recovering spoiler junkie and well it's too late for me on this film, so I bit the bullet and watched some footage of several key scenes from the film. What I just saw with my own two eyes was bar none the most Star Wars anything that has been produced since 1983, not nostalgic romp kind of stuff either that was clearly manipulating me to think about stuff I saw before in a very vague and stupid JJ Abrams kind of way. What I have seen legitimately evoked the same kind of feelings as some of my favorite moments from the OT but did so genuinely. 

​Maybe everything else in the movie sucks. But I am not gonna lie, I teared up a little bit, whereas previously I was not impressed with JJ Abram's take on Han in TFA, it just felt like a poor shell of the character. There's honestly some beautiful moments in this film and I can't wait to see it properly tonight.



 


This is not wrong.  Whatever your feelings about the film, it's the first time Star Wars has really moved forward since 1980.

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This is not wrong.  Whatever your feelings about the film, it's the first time Star Wars has really moved forward since 1980.

Unless you watch the alternate cut that apparently screened for Variety, apparently, in which case the film is completely skippable and nothing happens.

post #12148 of 12254
I read the spoilers, totes skippable.
post #12149 of 12254
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This is not wrong.  Whatever your feelings about the film, it's the first time Star Wars has really moved forward since 1980.

Exactly what I'm jazzed about. Most of the people bitching around the internet about this really come off as bitter because they didn't want that to happen, they wanted a time capsule so to speak of nostalgic nonsense so they could feel all their favorite feelings about their favorite characters. The "backlash" from people around the net (which seems to come mainly from people who really actually dug the Star Wars Expanded Universe Novels which I found cringe worthy at best) really seems like a whole divorce from reality because the new cannon is not their head cannon or even faithful to the spirit of it, so this film pretty much thoroughly gutted people who's ultimate fantasy growing up was Han and Leia totes being an adorable couple with a bunch of kids who are all Jedi and Luke getting married to Mara Jade and basically living happily ever after and all that trashy fan fic. 

​I have even seen posts from people saying this film is such a betrayal that the Yuuzhan Vong/New Jedi Order plot verbatim would have been preferred to this. All because big bad Disney stuck it to them. 

​I mean the crowd that was really totally convinced for reasons I could never hope to understand and actually hyped about Snoke turning out to be Anakin's father aka Darth Plagueis The Wise are really like having seizures over this shit. Total fucking meltdown in the pit of fanboy/girl hell right now.

​I'm over here like this means it's finally cool to like Star Wars again! 

post #12150 of 12254

I think the reaction to Last Jedi is going to be very, very different from how these films are usually received.  It's going to be pretty mixed initially, with people coming around on it in the months and years ahead.

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