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post #301 of 373

The homophobic stuff is obviously the most problematic, but I'm sure her defense was that she was young and stupid and has since changed. I wonder how fellow democrats would use that against her in a potential primary. 

 

As for the cult stuff, I don't even know what to make of that. I generally view all religions and cults with the same level of scorn. Some shit's just more mainstream. If she were to win the primary though, her homophobia and potentially anti-islamic views might actually win her some support from conservatives. 

post #302 of 373
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The homophobic stuff is obviously the most problematic, but I'm sure her defense was that she was young and stupid and has since changed. I wonder how fellow democrats would use that against her in a potential primary. 

As for the cult stuff, I don't even know what to make of that. I generally view all religions and cults with the same level of scorn. Some shit's just more mainstream. If she were to win the primary though, her homophobia and potentially anti-islamic views might actually win her some support from conservatives. 

Oh she's electable as hell. I just don't need another power hungry islamophobe anywhere near the White House in my lifetime.
post #303 of 373

I think, unlike Trump, she might be an Islamaphobe in a more "acceptable" sense. She has clearly staked a position on the anti-war, anti-intervention side of the debate. Trump and Bannon act that way, but they're also perfectly fine with a war against all of Islam. I don't think Gabbard is anywhere close to that. But still, her thoughts on not accepting Syrian refugees is pretty fucked up. At this point, I am just thinking of winning the White House back from the nazis. 

post #304 of 373

Yeah, I have no use for Gabbard. There are plenty of other electable Democrats without her baggage.

post #305 of 373

There's no obvious candidates just yet. John Hickenlooper and Jeff Merkley seem like two decent picks, and Kamala Harris is probably going to make a run at it. I guess we'll need to see how the map changes after 2018 mid-terms. 

post #306 of 373
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There's no obvious candidates just yet. John Hickenlooper and Jeff Merkley seem like two decent picks, and Kamala Harris is probably going to make a run at it. I guess we'll need to see how the map changes after 2018 mid-terms. 

None of the 3 of those names can win in 4 years.
post #307 of 373

Well then Al Franken or Uncle Joe Biden it is.

post #308 of 373
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Well then Al Franken or Uncle Joe Biden it is.

Gillibrand paired with Castro or mayyyybe Hickenlooper has a tiny shot. All depends on how angry we stay, and how successful legal challenges to voter suppression are.
post #309 of 373

Oh, Bannon and Sessions and Miller and Kobach are going to give it their best effort. That's why I'm thinking Democrats are going to have to go back to the well and pick a boring white dude who can win back some of those white rural voters, to make up for the millions of black voters who are going to end up disenfranchised. 

post #310 of 373
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Oh, Bannon and Sessions and Miller and Kobach are going to give it their best effort. That's why I'm thinking Democrats are going to have to go back to the well and pick a boring white dude who can win back some of those white rural voters, to make up for the millions of black voters who are going to end up disenfranchised. 

Was thinking the same thing - thought maybe throwing the Nazi's an aryan female as a decoy might throw them off.
post #311 of 373

That's part of the thinking with Tulsi. Once the alt right find out she hates Muslims as much as they do, they'll follow her to the gates of hell. 

post #312 of 373

Some further details on Ellison's role as "deputy chair" of the DNC - Perez will handle the internal bureaucracy and cleaning it out and getting it working again (similar to what he did at the DoJ's Civil Rights division and the Department of Labor), while Ellison will handle the grassroots organizing and essentially be the "face of the party", their chief spokesman.

 

http://www.startribune.com/new-dnc-chair-perez-wants-to-make-ellison-the-face-of-the-democratic-party/414821354/

 

Perez will also be Ellison's guest at Trump's not-State-of-the-Union address tomorrow. At least publicly, they're making a show of dividing up the responsibilities and presenting a unified front.

post #313 of 373

Figured/hoped that would be the outcome. Perez is the least charismatic speaker I've seen in a long time. I like the guy, but being DNC chair, especially when you're the opposition party, means that he's effectively the 3rd highest ranking democrat after Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. So it's good that he's handing off some of that to Ellison, who's much more relaxed and relatable when he speaks.

 

Crazy that even though Ellison and Sanders lost their battles, they both get "rewarded" with the outreach role in the party.

post #314 of 373

Dems did well in Connecticut last night for the special elections there.  They won two out of three seats.  The seat they lost was from the most conservative area of the state, and came close there too:

 

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/836765188372193280

post #315 of 373
Brianna Wu is running for the District 8 seat in Massachusetts. I have no problems with that.

Unfortunately, she also got into a slightly heated conversation with Phil Plait (@badastronomer) on the viability of using the moon as a platform for launching mass driver weapons. It's been deleted off her feed now, but it didn't go over well.
post #316 of 373

So probably the most important race of early 2017 is the open House seat from GA vacated by Tom Price. Democratic grassroots funding has raised over $1 million for Jon Ossoff, a young documentary maker, who is also getting infrastructure/staffing support from the DCCC. Republicans have just announced a $1.1 million ad buy against Ossoff... for dressing up as Han Solo and having a beer at a college party.

 

No, really.

 

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article135752948.html

post #317 of 373

I'm pretty sure the story of State Senator Mark Chelgren's bill to cap the amount of Democrats that Iowa state universities can hire made the rounds in one of these threads.  But!  We have some hilarious, new information:

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/iowa-pol-s-bio-changed-after-sizzler-u-discrepancy-emerges-n726961?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

 

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An Iowa lawmaker who is pushing a controversial bill that caps the number of Democrats that state universities can hire as professors claimed on a government web site that he got a "business degree" from the "Forbco Management school."

 

But State Sen. Mark Chelgren's alleged alma mater is actually a company that operated a Sizzler steak house franchise in southern California and he doesn't have a "degree," Ed Failor, a spokesman for the Iowa State Republicans, told NBC News. 

 

"This was a management course he took when he worked for Sizzler, kind of like Hamburger University at McDonald's," Failor said. "He got a certificate."

 

Asked if Chelgren has a college degree, Failor said, "That's not accurate."

 

Shortly after speaking with a reporter, the reference to Forbco Management "business degree" was removed from Chelgren's biography on the Iowa State Republicans web site

 

EDIT: I really should've put this in the Republican thread.

post #318 of 373

Where do people stand on the soda tax idea that has popped in various Democratic legislatures in recent years?  Obviously, waning people off pop (sorry, soda fans, but we call it pop in Chicago) has many health benefits and could lower insurance costs, but, like anything, there could be consequences too.  Those consequences are also more instantaneous and easier to report on.  For instance:

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/Pepsi-announces-80-100-layoffs-blames-soda-tax.html

 

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With sales slumping because of the new Philadelphia sweetened beverage tax, Pepsi  said Wednesday that it will lay off 80 to 100 workers at three distribution plants that serve the city.

 

The company, which employs 423 people in the city, sent out notices Wednesday and said the layoffs would be spread  over the next few months. The layoffs come in response to the  beverage tax, which has cut sales by 40 percent in the city, PepsiCo Inc. spokesman Dave DeCecco said.

 

“Unfortunately, after careful consideration of the economic realities created by the recently enacted beverage tax, we have been forced to give notice that we intend to eliminate 80 to 100 positions, including frontline and supervisory roles,” DeCecco said.

 

The other side:

 

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The Kenney administration lambasted the news, pointing to Pepsi's overall profits and the benefits of the expanded pre-K program that the 1.5-cent-per-ounce tax funds. As of this week, the program has created 251 jobs in the city, mostly full-time pre-K teaching positions, the city said.

 

 “The soda industry sunk to a new low today,” city spokeswoman Lauren Hitt said. “They are literally holding hostage the jobs of hard-working people in their battle to overturn the tax. Pepsi reported nearly $35 billion in gross income and $6 billion in profit last year.... The idea that they can afford to do that but ‘must lay off workers’ should make every Philadelphian very skeptical of whether these layoffs are actually due to the tax.”

 

The people in the middle:

 

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The layoffs will occur at plants in North Philadelphia, South Philadelphia, and Wilmington. The plants are run as independent businesses required to report profits and losses to the company. 

Outside of the North Philadelphia plant Wednesday, Ed Langdon, a 40-year employee  who shuttles products between warehouses, said the cuts are the most drastic he's seen in his time at Pepsi.

 

Langdon, whose job is safe, said workers have been told the plant will decrease production of jugs of iced tea and canned soda. "It's managers, it's drivers, it's people who go out and put the soda on the shelf. It's all across the board. It's everybody. I was sick last night when I heard," Langdon said.

 

Langdon said the writing was on the wall: Some colleagues who are paid on commission were seeing drastic cuts in weekly pay. "The trucks are going out and they're coming back with the soda on it," he said. "No one's buying it. It's just not happening."

post #319 of 373
I think that using legislation to resolve social ills that should probably be resolved through cultural pressure is, with some notable exceptions, a dodgy idea.

Republicans aren't wrong when they say that overregulation/overlegislation is a problem, but their actual record shows that they don't really care about correcting that problem, they just care about using it as an excuse to pursue other agendas.
post #320 of 373

This post could just as easily go in the Republican thread since they're the ones who tried to add an amendment to a recent Child Protection Service bill that would prevent payments to undocumented caregivers.  The amendment was struck down in a vote because members of both parties rejected it, but Rep. Rafael Anchia of Dallas, a Democrat, is getting the most attention because he gave such a powerful speech:

 

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/texas-house-senate-unanimously-pass-bills-to-reform-cps/417091456

 

The full speech is here, and it's totally worth a watch:

 

https://www.facebook.com/ProgressTexas/videos/vb.109140985838232/1268191249933194/?utm_content=buffer63ebb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

EDIT: Just so there's no confusion, this is the Texas legislature.


Edited by Iron Maiden - 3/3/17 at 12:02pm
post #321 of 373
Thread Starter 

So the Financial Times ran a story about possible "Celebrity Dems" who might bring some new energy to an aging party. 

 

Most of the names are business Celebrities like Howard Schultz of StarBucks, Mark Zuckerberg of FaceBook, and Bob Iger of Disney. 


That last name baffles me: Does anyone outside of Stock Market junkies and Disney shareholders even know who the hell Bob Iger is?

 

The last name makes the most sense: OPRAH!

 

She has the same level of name recognition as Trump, maybe even moreso. She has a keen business accumen, having built an empire around her TV show and other endeavors. She also runs her businesses personally, insisting on signing the check herself. 

 

Don't actually know her politics in detail, but I'd assume they fall into line with what's called "Progressivism" today. 

 

On the negative side, this is a desperate balloon being floated when the best hope for the Democratic party is "only  a celebrity can save us!"

 

Also, we now have a pretty good track record of Celebs going into politics, with Jessie "The Body" Ventura, Arnold, and now Trump. I exclude Al Frankin from the list because he made his bones as a writer for SNL before and after being on camera. 

 

What do YOU think?

post #322 of 373

This killed any "Zuck 2020" talk dead for me. What a smug asshole. 

https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/vb.4/10103553166792061/?type=2&theater

post #323 of 373

Republicans might've finally nabbed the Kentucky legislature after almost a century, but that doesn't mean there aren't any Democrats in position to fight back.  Republicans see that as a problem.

 

In February, legislation was introduced that would change the rules regarding how the attorney general could go about hiring outside attorneys.  Republicans said the move wasn't about cuffing Attorney General Andy Beshear, a Democrat:

 

http://www.whas11.com/mb/news/politics/some-say-ky-house-bill-targets-attorney-general/408718521

 

Well, now new language has been proposed:

 

https://twitter.com/BGPolitics/status/839469698622324737/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

 

The new legislation would fire the attorney general as the state's lawyer and replace him with Gov. Matt Bevin.

 

Republicans sure love their power grabs this year.

post #324 of 373

A science advocacy group called 314 Action is trying to get scientists to run for political office, particularly in districts where anti-science Republicans reign supreme:

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/meet-the-scientists-who-want-to-run-for-office-in?utm_term=.mmjD1b5dj#.cn2vXA30Y

 

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“My job is to try to understand what makes volcanoes tick,” Phoenix, a volcanologist who also runs an environmental nonprofit called Blueprint Earth, told BuzzFeed News. “I guess when other people run away, I run forwards.”

 

On Tuesday, Phoenix will announce her latest extreme endeavor, running for a spot in Congress. Her campaign joins the efforts of the science advocacy group 314 Action to inject better scientific thinking into government, by pushing actual scientists to ditch their field jackets and lab coats and run for office. Along with one other candidate, Phoenix will run to unseat a member of the group of politicians most notorious among scientists: the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, also known by some as the House “anti-sciencecommittee. Her official paperwork will be filed in early April.

 

The Representatives they are trying to replace — Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, who chairs the committee, and Rep. Steve Knight of California — will both be up for re-election in 2018, and 314 Action wants to make sure they don’t come back. (The group also wants to unseat another committee incumbent, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of California, but hasn’t yet confirmed a candidate.)

 

So far, so good:

 

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314 Action’s name and nerdy tagline “Pi is everywhere” (3.14 are the first three digits of the mathematical constant) speak to its insistence that science can no longer stay sealed off in university labs. The group says it’s seen an unprecedented level of interest and support from the scientific community. Over 3,000 scientists, roughly split between men and women, have signed up and expressed interest in running for office — everything from school boards to state legislatures to Congress. And they’ve raised over $300,000 in online donations in the last 45 days, which doesn’t include large one-time donations from wealthy funders, said 314 Action’s executive director, Josh Morrow.

 

The article ponders if scientists running against politicians will hurt science.  "Not a politician" is pretty popular nowadays, and I've been wanting to see more scientists get into this for a long time, so I'm hoping for the best.

post #325 of 373

Today I learned that Jason Kander's uncle is John Kander of Kander & Ebb, in the best way possible: Jason Kander dropping a sick burn on Richard Spencer.

 

https://twitter.com/jasonkander/status/843227257061761024

post #326 of 373
Thread Starter 
post #327 of 373

He's looking more and more like an early draft pick for 2020, but I don't know. I really like the guy, but we'll see.

post #328 of 373

I would just like the Democratic Party to start winning again. I hope that's not too much to ask for.

post #329 of 373

I recommend listening to the interview Seth Mouton did last week with the Pod Save America Monday crew. He's incredibly impressive, and he's only been in Congress for two years.

post #330 of 373

We are 30 days out from the special election for Tom Price's seat in his Georgia district.  Tom Ossoff - yes, the Han Solo impersonator, himself - is in good shape, but the road is a long one:

 

http://zpolitics.com/exclusive-poll-ossoff-strengthens-lead-gop-candidates-battle-runoff/

 

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The survey, which ran from March 15-16, found that Ossoff has increased his support among Congressional District 6 voters from 32 percent to 41 percent. Former Republican Secretary of State Karen Handel now only has a marginal edge over former Johns Creek City Councilman Bob Gray, as both effectively tie at 16 percent.

 

Former Republican State Senator Judson Hill remains solid with nine percent support, while former Republican State Senator Dan Moody bumped up to five percent. Trump’s National Diversity Coalition leader, Bruce LeVell, dropped to less than one percent.

 

If you know anyone looking to wisely donate money in the Trump era, this might be a good start.  Ossoff has a real shot, and Democrats need to show results.

post #331 of 373

Another potential 2020 draft pick has come into focus the last couple of days: Adam Schiff. I kinda see him more as VP than the top ticket since he's more of a workhorse and less flashy, but the guy's been really bringing it on the Russia investigation in a very credible way. May be a good candidate for Feinstein's seat in 2018 too.

post #332 of 373

Schiff seems very much in the mold of a Tim Kaine. Boring, but bright, with a strong focus on intelligence and foreign affairs. I like the idea of him replacing Feinstein in the senate. 

 

I also heard Seth Moulton on Pod Save America podcast a few weeks ago, and he's a very obvious choice, along with Jason Kander, as two young veterans who should be able to win back blue dog democrats.

post #333 of 373

Tom Perez has asked for the resignation of all current DNC staffers, as part of a total reorganization of the organization. They'll be evaluating on a case-by-case basis not only of who should stay on, but what positions are necessary, which they need to add that the DNC currently lacks, and which are unnecessary. They will also be shaking up their vendor and consultant contracts - addressing a major complaint on his listening tour and meeting with the state and local party organizations.

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/embattled-dnc-asks-all-staffers-resignation-letters-n739676?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

 

I'll say this for the guy - he definitely seems quite serious about remaking the DNC into something viable. It also increasingly sounds like Keith Ellison's Vice Chair position will be about creating the legislation the party will pursue.

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post #335 of 373

And the Cook Political Report changed its rating of the race from "likely R" to "lean R."

 

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10292

 

If Dems win this race, not only will it be an embarrassing loss for Republicans from a qualified candidate who knows a thing or two about combating fraud, but it'll give Republicans in Washington extra pause regarding their agenda.

post #336 of 373

George Takei has announced he's going to run against Nunes.

 

I'd almost want to move to Fresno so I could vote for him.

post #337 of 373

Dear God, I hope Takei isn't pulling an April Fools joke on us, because Takei unseating Nunes would be incredible.

post #338 of 373
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Dear God, I hope Takei isn't pulling an April Fools joke on us, because Takei unseating Nunes would be incredible.

Reportedly, the intent to unseat Nunes is the reason why Takei and his husband have been looking for a home to buy in Nunes' district. It sounds like he's serious.
post #339 of 373

I think last time he ran for something, they weren't allowed to air Star Trek reruns in the voting area because of equal airtime rules.

post #340 of 373

Between Takei running against Nunes and Sir Pat Stew working on becoming an American citizen so he can "vote" and "fight," everything's coming up Starfleet. 

post #341 of 373
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Between Takei running against Nunes and Sir Pat Stew working on becoming an American citizen so he can "vote" and "fight," everything's coming up Starfleet. 


... and hopefully not Wolf 359.

post #342 of 373
Turns out it was an April Fool's "prank." God dammit.
post #343 of 373

Republicans are demanding an apology after Tom Perez gave a speech where he said Trumpcare shows that Republicans "don't give a shit about people". Thus far, he is refusing to apologize.

 

https://twitter.com/JackDRunyan/status/848352638030794757

post #344 of 373
So, Republicans are freaking out about a special election next week in Kansas, and they're doing everything they can to keep the deep-red seat:

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/7/1650828/-Shock-upset-in-the-making-GOP-admits-Kansas-should-not-be-in-play-but-Kansas-is-in-play

Trump won the district by a lot, but internal polls are showing Republicans that this race is close.
post #345 of 373
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Republicans are demanding an apology after Tom Perez gave a speech where he said Trumpcare shows that Republicans "don't give a shit about people". Thus far, he is refusing to apologize.

 

https://twitter.com/JackDRunyan/status/848352638030794757


Nor should he apologize.

post #346 of 373
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Nor should he apologize.


He actually doubled down - repeating it at a speech in Texas, and then had more fun with it, as you can see:

 

https://twitter.com/TomPerez/status/849045126877937668

 

Next up, he and Bernie Sanders are doing a recruiting tour together.

post #347 of 373
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So, Republicans are freaking out about a special election next week in Kansas, and they're doing everything they can to keep the deep-red seat:

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/7/1650828/-Shock-upset-in-the-making-GOP-admits-Kansas-should-not-be-in-play-but-Kansas-is-in-play

Trump won the district by a lot, but internal polls are showing Republicans that this race is close.

 

Man, if a district that went 2-1 for Trump less than 6 months ago actually comes down to the wire, that bodes extremely well for the midterms.  And if Thompson were to actually win, then damn

post #348 of 373
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Man, if a district that went 2-1 for Trump less than 6 months ago actually comes down to the wire, that bodes extremely well for the midterms.  And if Thompson were to actually win, then damn

 

Tuesday can't come fast enough.  Thompson went to Twitter to publicly thank Bernie Sanders for his support, and Republicans aren't sure they can use that to their benefit.  Times there are a-changin'.

 

Speaking of Tuesday, Republicans fully took the gloves off against John Ossoff in Georgia.  Ads created by dark money are shamefully linking Ossoff to Osama bin Laden:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jon-ossoff-dark-money_us_58e7e0b9e4b00de141034dc8?

 

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Congressional Leadership Fund, which is closely connected to House Republican leadership, has run a series of controversial advertisements against Ossoff in the past month. In one, the super PAC used old footage of the 30-year-old candidate dressed as Han Solo for Halloween when he was in college. Another says Ossoff has a “radical agenda” and flashes images of anarchists smashing windows. The more recent advertisements claim Ossoff is connected to the late terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden because his company sold documentary films it produced to the Qatari-funded television network Al Jazeera.

 

Ossoff’s campaign manager, Keenan Pontoni, has called the ads attempting to link the candidate to bin Laden, “truly shameful.”

 

The biggest funder of these attacks is mysterious.

 

The nonprofit American Action Network contributed $3.6 million to Congressional Leadership Fund. But because American Action Network does not disclose donors, the source of the money isn’t publicly known.

post #349 of 373

So it looks like the Republican won in that Kansas district, but by mid-single digits. In a district Trump won by 27 percent and the former seat-holder (Mike Pompeo) won by over thirty points every time he ran.

 

If that swing is nationwide, over 100 Republicans would get kicked out of the House of Representatives. There needs to be a candidate in every goddamn district, institutional support or not.

post #350 of 373
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So it looks like the Republican won in that Kansas district, but by mid-single digits. In a district Trump won by 27 percent and the former seat-holder (Mike Pompeo) won by over thirty points every time he ran.

 

If that swing is nationwide, over 100 Republicans would get kicked out of the House of Representatives. There needs to be a candidate in every goddamn district, institutional support or not.

 

A 24-point swing since November.  Not bad:

 

https://twitter.com/nytgraphics/status/852020731525316608

 

 

There were a lot of factors to this race.  Estes was Sam Brownback's treasurer, for instance, and the governor is not popular there, even among Republicans.  Democrats made some gains in Kansas last year based on Brownback's incompetence.

 

But!  Brownback didn't exactly stop Trump from doing well in that district last year.  The executive order was protested in Kansas, many of Trump's promises look like afterthoughts and almost no one in the country liked Trumpcare.  

 

Considering that Ryan could be introducing a new health care bill soon, a lot of Republicans in districts not as red as that one could be sweating.

 

A lot of Dems on Twitter are pissed, saying that the national party didn't do enough.  Others have argued that outside help would've hurt Thompson's chances.  I don't really have an answer in either direction.  What I do know is Democrats went the populist route in this election and almost won one of the reddest districts in Kansas.  I mean, Koch Industries is stationed there!

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