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post #1 of 1931
Thread Starter 

Since it's already March and free agency/draft is about to start.. here we go.

 

Bold prediction: The Jaguars go 8-8 this year!

post #2 of 1931

My prediction: Vikings make it to the semi-finals and choke.

post #3 of 1931

tcjsavannah, Let us see.  G.Bradley won...4 games year 1.  3 Year 2, and...5 Year 3. I would say...4 Wins in 2016.

post #4 of 1931

I actually credit the Redskins with the Cousins franchise tag.

 

Yes, they are vastly overpaying him ($19.95M) for a single year, but the guaranteed money is also $19.95M.  They are essentially paying a premium to find out if 2015 was a sign of things to come, or a fluky good year against a bad schedule.  Either he plays well/improves against a harder schedule and is actually worthy of an Andy Dalton-like contract, or he reverts to mean (as I expect) and they can get him a better price or cut ties and try the draft next year.  Business-savvy.

 

Unlike the Eagles, who just gave $26M guaranteed to Sam Bradford.  Bradford has made $114M in his NFL career, because of good timing (first pick in the last uncontrolled rookie season as a QB), and a free agent in a QB starved offseason.  Sam Bradford = $100M man.

 

If I was an All-Pro at a non-QB position, I'd go on strike.

post #5 of 1931

I really wish Alshon Jeffrey would sign somewhere else so the Bears would het the draft picks.  And I really hope they don't sign him long term yet. 2/4 years he's been hurt and I'd rather not put money into a guy who will never play.

 

And if the Bears draft that ND LB who won't play this year then they can fire their GM.

 

 

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Bold prediction: The Jaguars go 8-8 this year!

I think it may happen.

post #6 of 1931
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Unlike the Eagles, who just gave $26M guaranteed to Sam Bradford.  Bradford has made $114M in his NFL career, because of good timing (first pick in the last uncontrolled rookie season as a QB), and a free agent in a QB starved offseason.  Sam Bradford = $100M man.

 

If I was an All-Pro at a non-QB position, I'd go on strike.

 

I do NOT get that at all. I can't imagine anyone would have given him more than in the $5 mil range, $10 mil tops. Past a certain point, a QB is what he is. Bradford is past that point. 

 

 

And I'm not saying he's a BAD QB, just that he isn't playing in that $20 mil range, and has never even come close. 

post #7 of 1931
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And I'm not saying he's a BAD QB


I am! He's a bad, bad quarterback!

 

I'll never understand teams sticking with the known quantity, when the known-quantity is a zero.

post #8 of 1931

Texans released Arian Foster today. Gonna miss that weirdly eccentric dude. Easily the best RB in Texans history and 2nd in Houston history only to the great Earl Campbell.

post #9 of 1931
Brady to likely have suspension restored after today's court hearings.
post #10 of 1931
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Texans released Arian Foster today. Gonna miss that weirdly eccentric dude. Easily the best RB in Texans history and 2nd in Houston history only to the great Earl Campbell.

As a Texans fan, I really can't be upset about this.  He's just way too injury prone.

post #11 of 1931
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As a Texans fan, I really can't be upset about this.  He's just way too injury prone.

Yeah, it doesn't bother me either. He was so damn good when healthy but you just couldn't count on him. I wonder if he'll follow Kubiak to Denver for cheap and try for a ring next year.

post #12 of 1931
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. I wonder if he'll follow Kubiak to Denver for cheap and try for a ring next year.

Better off going to NE.  They way they use RB he could stay healthy all year.

post #13 of 1931
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Brady to likely have suspension restored after today's court hearings.

No, it's just being reviewed, decision may not come for weeks. It's so obvious that this is a witch hunt, and the League and Goodell absolutely loathe the patriots.
post #14 of 1931
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Pats organization bending the rules and getting caught.... again.
post #15 of 1931
Yes, because I'm sure NE is the only organization in the entire NFL that has ever bended the rules to their advantage.
post #16 of 1931
Unfortunately though, they were the ones who got caught, twice.

That excuse of others breaking the rules, didn't work for me when I got pulled over for speeding. They got caught, again, and the nfl wants to make an example. It has nothing to do with the fact that the Patriots are the only real legacy team of the past decade. It's that they tainted themselves with being dumb... again.
post #17 of 1931
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Unfortunately though, they were the ones who got caught, twice.

That excuse of others breaking the rules, didn't work for me when I got pulled over for speeding. They got caught, again, and the nfl wants to make an example. It has nothing to do with the fact that the Patriots are the only real legacy team of the past decade. It's that they tainted themselves with being dumb... again.

That is all true, but that isn't what the suit is about, really. The question is wheter or not the league's CBA with the players gives Goodell the ability to impose punishment as he sees fit, when the CBA clearly outlines a specific punishment (only a fine) for equipment tampering. Now, Goodell and The League are trying to argue that they can levy a suspension because of "conduct detrimental to the game", which might be an argument that works, but it does undermine the actual power of the CBA.

Now, I think Brady probably was aware of ball deflation, but I don't think the NFL has even done a great job of proving the impact that has on the game. Supposedly, they were measuring the PSI of game balls this past season before, during and after games, but they never released those number. Considering the balls implicated in "deflategate" lost no more than 1 PSI in that game (and generally much less), I do wonder if the NFL found that balls do deflate during games naturally and decided not to release that information.

All of that being said, I don't really care if Brady is suspended, but I do worry about the precedent that sets for the league and, depending on how the court writes its decision, what that means for the strength of CBAs in other industries.
post #18 of 1931

Peyton Manning is officially retiring. He contacted the Broncos last night, and the press conference is scheduled for tomorrow.

post #19 of 1931
Thread Starter 
So Tuesday he will announce he is running for President, right?

"A pizza in every house!"
post #20 of 1931
Word is, he wants to be a GM. So, expect a struggling team to snatch him up as an analyst or assistant or even scout pretty quickly, so he can start learning and gaining experience. Too late for him to be an effective participant in any team's draft this season, but I'd expect him to be in someone's war room next year.
post #21 of 1931
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Word is, he wants to be a GM.

Cleveland should sign him now.  Have him draft the QB of the future.

post #22 of 1931
Miami Trades undisclosed draft picks for Eagles...CB Byron Maxwell and LB Kiko Alonso! The house Cleaning will Continue...
post #23 of 1931
Miami pays alot of...Bills for Buffalo's Mario Williams!
post #24 of 1931

And they will still suck

 

I'm curious what happens if Osweiller doesn't sign with the Broncos.  They are still a legit SB contender with him.  With out they are not.  if 3 yrs 45 million is correct,  The Texans could easily come in and give more years and more guaranteed money.  And if it does happen I hope they trade back for Cutler :)

post #25 of 1931
Thread Starter 

Jaguars opened up the checkbook for Malik Jackson and Bruce Irvin. Also expected to go hard after Olivier Vernon.

post #26 of 1931

Money really does talk in this league. Arizona showed interest in JPP, Bruce Irvin and Mario Williams.

 

JPP actually turned down a bigger payday from other teams to stay with New York -- probably out of loyalty for them not cutting him, and I can support that. Bruce Irvin would never have gone to Arizona given the rivalry between AZ and SEA, so that's fine... but disappointing.

 

Mario wouldn't have fit in with our scheme, but we were still interested anyway. Jacksonville no doubt outbid us, so... uh, go have fun spending your money, while AZ makes another playoff run next season.

post #27 of 1931
Thread Starter 

Dude, we're in the AFC South. Every crappy team is in the playoff hunt until December.

post #28 of 1931

Bears are gunning for ILB Danny Trevathan of Denver.  They need LB help in the worst possible way.  Then they need to draft one in the first round. 

post #29 of 1931
Bruce Irvin will join the Raiders.
post #30 of 1931

Dan Patrick was having the "Calvin Johnson - HOF?" discussion and DP was on the side of no. 


I am simply boggled by this. It sounds like everyone on the show wants compilers in the HoF. 

post #31 of 1931

Megatron's going into the hall of fame, but definitely not as a first ballot. His impact on the game as it currently is was too large to be ignored, even if the Lions failed to make anything of it, as a team. Shit, same with Barry Sanders.

 

...you poor Lions fans. It's been rough watching Larry Fitzgerald play for the Cardinals for all these years, and only just now look like a good team. But the Lions have had some of the all-time greats, and have struggled with mediocrity. To have never even been to a Super Bowl is heartbreaking.

post #32 of 1931

No, but he HAS to go.  Sure he only played nine years.  He was dominant in, what, six to seven of them.  Most HoF players are lucky to be dominant in six of their years.

 

Another component of that decision train...nine years may soon become a more normal career length more veterans.  These 15-18 year players are going to become even more rare.

 

If Megatron can't get in, then what is the point?  Just statistics and longevity?

post #33 of 1931

Brock Osweiler signs with the Texans???  What the hell?

post #34 of 1931

Sparking talk of RGIII to Denver. Which would be fascinating.

post #35 of 1931
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Brock Osweiler signs with the Texans???  What the hell?

Gave him a HUGE deal, too. 4 years, $72 million being reported.

 

Personally I don't think he is really worth it, but I'm glad Bill O'Brien finally hitched his wagon to a horse. If Brock totally flames out, BO'B will too. I haven't seen Osweiler play, so I don't have an opinion on him. It's good that Elway thought highly of him, at least.

post #36 of 1931

Broncos have a real need now, and Subway Bob fits their system.

 

Barnwell (or someone) already pointed out that Hoyer had better QB ratings last year than Osweiler.  Risky move, because Broncos didn't feel he was worth that money after watching him for four straight years.

post #37 of 1931

The Bucs re-signed Doug Martin, five years, $35 million, two years and $15 million guaranteed.  A better deal for the team than if they'd franchised him.

post #38 of 1931

RGIII to Denver would be weird, since Kubiak is buds with Mike Shanahan, and we all know how he feels about RGIII...

 

Texans are winning the offseason right now, for whatever that's worth.

post #39 of 1931

Winning the offseason has NEVER translated into the regular season.  Remember the Eagles dream team a few years ago?  The Redskins won a few free agent offseasons, and that never panned out either.

 

Bill O'Brien...fired after 2016 season.  Quote me :)

post #40 of 1931
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No, but he HAS to go.  Sure he only played nine years.  He was dominant in, what, six to seven of them.  Most HoF players are lucky to be dominant in six of their years.

 

Another component of that decision train...nine years may soon become a more normal career length more veterans.  These 15-18 year players are going to become even more rare.

 

If Megatron can't get in, then what is the point?  Just statistics and longevity?

 

 

I'd say he was dominant in 3-4, but aside from his rookie years, he was solid-to-really good in all the other years. 

 

 

To me, the key to HoF player, based on Gale Sayers (or even OJ Simpson) is to be one of the 3-5 BEST players at your position for a 5+ yr stretch. For anyone not named Rice, Manning, or Brady, that's about the best you can get. 

post #41 of 1931

Even Rice had Montana and then Young.

 

I'm not certain that Stafford is Canton-bound.

post #42 of 1931
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Winning the offseason has NEVER translated into the regular season.  Remember the Eagles dream team a few years ago?  The Redskins won a few free agent offseasons, and that never panned out either.

 

Bill O'Brien...fired after 2016 season.  Quote me :)

 

Oh I get  you, but they are a playoff team that has added a solid OL in Jeff Allen, a legit #1 RB in Lamar Miller, and now a quality starting QB in Osweiler. I'm not sure if Osweiler is going to be GREAT, but he's still a significant upgrade at a position of weakness for that team. They have filled holes in the roster with quality free agents.

 

Also, loathe as I am to mention, the Broncos had several big time free agent additions to their team over the last few years (Manning, Sanders, Ware, Ward, Talib), and it turned out OK for them.

 

Sometimes spending big in FA can reap some rewards, as long as you're smart about it.

post #43 of 1931
Thread Starter 

Calvin Johnson is in. He passed the eye test. He looked like a Hall of Famer for much of his career. That's all I need.

post #44 of 1931
Damn it!...Lamar Miller runs to the...Texans! Miami has...Unproven...Jay Ajayai as their rb! UGH! Olivier Vernon DE joins Damon Harrison DT and JPP on the NYG D Line. Miami spent...Enow on their D Line!
post #45 of 1931

FREE AGENCY BABY! Time for the new Browns regime to make their imprint on this upcoming season:

 

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‏@MaryKayCabot  2m2 minutes ago

Confirming #Browns RT Mitchell Schwartz has agreed to a five-year deal with #Chiefs. Another big blow for #Browns today. Lost 3 starters

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

post #46 of 1931

So the Bears fill 2 very big needs-ILB Danny Trevathan who is legit but has past injury problems. 

 

And OT Bobby Massie.  Long will move back to guard.

 

DT-Massie any good?

post #47 of 1931
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DT-Massie any good?

My friend, a Bears fan, just sent me this story: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/27/bobby-massies-dui-arrest-can-be-blamed-in-part-on-his-team/ 

 

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According to the police report (via the Republic), Massie told the authorities that “he had been impaired by alcohol every day for the last ten years, but also said he did not believe he has an alcohol problem.” Massie also told the police he thought he was in Virginia, when he actually was in Arizona

Oy.

post #48 of 1931
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Oy.

Christ that's bad.  So bad he should have signed with the Browns. 

 

That's 2 years in a row the Bears have signed a guy with character questions.  they better not mess this one up like they did last year.  Get him Uber money and take away his car.

post #49 of 1931

Massie is an average Right Tackle, off-field problems aside.

 

Still reeling over the Osweiler thing. Leaving a team that just got you a ring, and with a defense that could get you another while you're at the helm... to try a quick cash-grab with a QB-meat grinder of a team? Dude is not good enough to warrant that contract, and I bet dollars to donuts he makes it through two of those four years. Maybe he's just butt hurt that he got benched when Peyton came back.

post #50 of 1931

Sooo the Chiefs are losing a 2016 3rd round pick, and a 2017 6th round pick for "improper" early contact with Jeremy Maclin last year during the "legal tampering" stage of free agency. Apparently during that brief window, you can't communicate with the player, only their agent, or something....

 

I was always rather indifferent to that buffoon Goodell UNTILNOWTHATSONUVABITCHBETTERRUN!!!!

 

Anyways, Chiefs will appeal and blahblahblah. Regardless, Maclin was completely worth it!

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