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post #101 of 1931

Chandler Jones was great on that defensive pass rush so I'm a little surprised NE traded him. Then again they need OL help and that whole situation with Jones hanging outside a police station was really weird and still not exactly clear what happened. I'm thinking NE was unloading him before things got even weirder.

post #102 of 1931

According to Peter Schrager, when Chip Kelly was with the Eagles, he offered the following to the Titans for Marcus Mariota:

- 2015 1st and 2nd round picks

- 2016 1st round pick

- Any QB on the Eagles roster

- Any defensive player on the Eagles roster

 

I like Mariota, but damn.

post #103 of 1931
Thread Starter 

And the Titans turned that shit down? No wonder they blow.

post #104 of 1931
I think I would have taken Bradford and that deal. 5 for 1 is hard to pass up.
post #105 of 1931
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I think I would have taken Bradford and that deal. 5 for 1 is hard to pass up.


And would they have done any worse with Bradford? Probably not. That's in line with the Saints trade for Ricky Williams and the Vikings trade for Herschel.

post #106 of 1931
Thread Starter 

Well they still would have had Mettenberger, who wasn't all that bad.

post #107 of 1931
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Well they still would have had Mettenberger, who wasn't all that bad.

Eh, he can throw the ball hard. Too bad about his lack of accuracy, pocket presence, mobility and inability to throw to his second option. 

post #108 of 1931
Thread Starter 

But he can throw the ball hard!

post #109 of 1931
Mettenberger had a coach who is notorious for ruining QBs and moving on to another the next year. Kid showed some talent, but he's raw and the combination of landing on a crap team like the Titans with a nightmare fuck-up of a coach like Whisenhunt left him with a snowball's chance in hell.

I'd take Mettenberger here in Arizona, just to see what Arians could get out of him.
post #110 of 1931
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post

I think I would have taken Bradford and that deal. 5 for 1 is hard to pass up.

 

 

Theoretically, yeah....in practice, it's usually a stupid team overpaying for an asset and a bad team either taking the deal and blowing the largesse, or rejecting the deal and ruining the asset. I'm thinking of the Rams/Washington trade for RG3 - sure, RG3's career is over (thanks to Mike Shanahan mishandling him), but it isn't as if the Rams spun all those picks into gold. Or the Rams trading Dickerson to the Colts back in the day - both teams got a bump from THAT deal (the Colts in Indy were just ugh for the most part before Manning arrived; they were competitive with ED carrying the load; and the Rams were VERY good for a few yrs thanks to SOME of those picks)....

 

 

....about the only time that's really turned into something is when Jerrah and Jimmah bent Mike Lynn over for Herschel Walker and managed to build a dynasty with the help of the Vikings' picks. 

post #111 of 1931
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....about the only time that's really turned into something is when Jerrah and Jimmah bent Mike Lynn over for Herschel Walker and managed to build a dynasty with the help of the Vikings' picks. 

And that's what you have to hope for. 

 

Bradford isn't winning much more than 3 games if at all so you are picking top 5 again.  There are always QB's coming out.  And to me the best part of the deal is taking ANY defensive players.  DT Fletcher Cox had 9.5 sacks in his 4th year.  That would have been a huge get.  It's hard to draft that. 

 

Maybe Mariotta is a god in Tennessee.  Time will tell.

post #112 of 1931
AnyawatchinAngel, Don't forget JJ drafted...His QB from Miami Steve Walsh with their pick in the Supplimental Draft even though It cost them the...#1 pick (Top pick...1990)! JJ Traded Walsh for the Then...Inept Saints First...3 picks and 2 players! JJ traded the...2nd and 3rd selections for the...#1 pick in 1991, where they selected...DT Russell Maryland!
post #113 of 1931
Thread Starter 
I'll have you know, fleed, Steve Walsh actually led the Saints to the playoffs one year.

Anya can tell you what happened next...
post #114 of 1931
tcjsavannah, Russell Maryland was the...Better Pick Up as the Cowboys would win...3 out of the next 4 superbowls with Brilliant Trades!
post #115 of 1931
Sad news about Tray Walker.
post #116 of 1931

Ugh, that's a gut punch. I was pulling for him when I heard he was in critical condition. Terrible news that he didn't make it...

post #117 of 1931
Wasn't there a report he was with a Patriots player? I would assume they were racing if true.
post #118 of 1931

The NFL is making noise about denying Georgia future Super Bowls if they go ahead with their proposed religious freedom gay discrimination legislation.  

post #119 of 1931
Richard Dickson, With the...GEORGIAous new Stadium Atlanta is Building I am sure they will not risk being...Bowled over by the NFL. Maybe...CHUD.COM Stadium at...Nunziata Field?
post #120 of 1931
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The NFL is making noise about denying Georgia future Super Bowls if they go ahead with their proposed religious freedom gay discrimination legislation.  


I've emailed, called, tweeted, and Facebook'd Governor Deal, and also told my district representative via Facebook and Twitter (he voted yes on the bill) that I will be doing my utmost to make sure he loses his seat when the next election is in May. If Deal signs the bill, he is a bigger idiot than people claim he is. He may be a Republican, but he also knows that the film industry that is flourishing in Georgia has brought the state a ton of $$$ and he'll get credit for those jobs, etc. If he signs this bill, that all goes crashing down.

 

People around here are making the argument that "money shouldn't go over freedom of religion." Guess what folks, no one gives a shit except for you idiots. Money isn't the winner, it's people not being discriminated against. And I keep asking, if this is so important for "religious freedom" then why are Christians the only religious folks I see supporting it? Where are the Jews or the Muslims or practically any other religion?

 

Sorry, I'm done now.

post #121 of 1931
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... I keep asking, if this is so important for "religious freedom" then why are Christians the only religious folks I see supporting it? Where are the Jews or the Muslims or practically any other religion?

 

Sorry, I'm done now.

 

 

Because "religious freedom" in the US generally means "the right for evangelical Christians to force their morals and views on everyone else." Duh. 

post #122 of 1931

Who's ready for 25 yard touchbacks? Ugh.

post #123 of 1931
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Who's ready for 25 yard touchbacks? Ugh.

It's a dumb change.
post #124 of 1931

The "red card" penalty should go all the way and make the offending player miss the next game as well and his team play with one fewer player the rest of the game. Because that would be hilarious.

 

No half measures!

post #125 of 1931
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It's a dumb change.


I love the kick returns.  To me the kick offs aren't the problem.  It's the punt returns.  Those guys can get lit up.

post #126 of 1931
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I love the kick returns.  To me the kick offs aren't the problem.  It's the punt returns.  Those guys can get lit up.

I always thought the same thing, but then I heard someone today talking about how kickoffs are worse because of the head of steam the the players can get with nobody blocking them right from the start. I love the kickoffs as well, and I'm not sure I completely buy the "physics" of the above explanation, but it really does look like the NFL is only worried about one and not the other.

I'm also not sure if the NFL really gives a shit about protecting the players from CTE, and it just seems more likely they are taking the easiest path to be able to say "look, we did this, so we actually do care!". Either way, the early reactions from some of the players seems to be that they don't think it'll actually help, but who knows.
post #127 of 1931
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I love the kick returns.  To me the kick offs aren't the problem.  It's the punt returns.  Those guys can get lit up.

 

 

Eh, my understanding of CTE is less that it's from the every-once-in-a-while light up and more from the CONSTANT, 70 times a game head knocking...hence why it's more prevalent among linemen/linebackers than among skill position players. 

post #128 of 1931

Griffin III signs with the Browns.

 

No matter what hard feelings some local fans may have held for him -- and I certainly did not, just regret and frustration -- I can't believe anyone would have wished THAT on the poor bastard. Hopefully this is only the second act in his eventual 30 for 30 doc.

post #129 of 1931

Yeah, either the guy just didn't have much interest at all from teams or he really only cares about money. Because I can't imagine any scenario where a QB would think THAT situation would be one where he could resurrect his career.


Edited by Matt Turner - 3/24/16 at 11:57am
post #130 of 1931
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Originally Posted by Matt Turner View Post
 

Yeah, either the guy just didn't have much interest at all from teams

Think you hit the nail. 

 

And with the 2nd pick you could still go QB and let him sit for the year.  It's not a ton of money so if he does get all pissy if you draft another QB it won't matter much.  though I'm sure his agent was told drafting a QB in round 1 was a possibility.

 

I have to imagine if Cleveland was the only landing spot for RG3 then Johnny Football is done in the NFL.   Unless the Raiders give him a call.

post #131 of 1931
Anyawatchin Angel, Johnny Football needs to act like a...Professional before he gets a chance. Maybe...2017! I cannot believe the Browns are...Desperate enough to sign RG3! He had a great...Rookie Year, but nothing great since!
post #132 of 1931
Jerrah not signing Johny Alcohol immediately is a sure sign he's done.

And do are RG3's knees. Dude gonna get pulverized.
post #133 of 1931
MrBananaGrabber! Cleveland should just...Draft a QB. It is not like they are going anywhere. The Dolphins might be right...Behind them. Mike Tannebaum is a...Disaster as Director of Operations for Miami!
post #134 of 1931

Oh, they're going to draft a QB, too. I'd bet my life they're not viewing RGIII with the confidence to outright name him the starter.

 

They'll draft a QB in the first or second round, then have the two compete. And we'll likely see rotating QBs in Cleveland, like we always have.

post #135 of 1931
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Oh, they're going to draft a QB, too. I'd bet my life they're not viewing RGIII with the confidence to outright name him the starter.

 

They'll draft a QB in the first or second round, then have the two compete. And we'll likely see rotating QBs in Cleveland, like we always have.


They're probably getting Wentz.

Sorry I was late to respond about this latest Browns news. I was busy making Super Bowl plans.

post #136 of 1931
Looks like Eddie Lacy has trimmed down. He's been working with the maker of P90x.
post #137 of 1931
Dang, he's not Feast Mode anymore.

Now he's like... Decreased Mode.
post #138 of 1931
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Dang, he's not Feast Mode anymore.

Now he's like... Decreased Mode.

 

 

Thin Lacy? 

post #139 of 1931
My only regret is that I have but one rep to give.
post #140 of 1931

 

Eventually  I'll see a season like this in Chicago again.

post #141 of 1931
post #142 of 1931

Back when the Cardinals stadium was being built, there was a semi-serious bid from a shitty Mexican food chain called "Pink Taco" to buy the naming rights.

 

The team would never allow such a thing - it's just a cheap ploy for press.

post #143 of 1931

Kaep to the Broncos?  SF should hold out for a #1 pick.  Be it this year or next.  Denver is desperate for a QB as their window is short.

 

I also am starting to see mock drafts where Goff is dropping out of the top 10.  As much as I want the bears to focus on defense, a QB will be needed at some point in the next few years.  If this guy is legit then don't pass him up.

post #144 of 1931
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Back when the Cardinals stadium was being built, there was a semi-serious bid from a shitty Mexican food chain called "Pink Taco" to buy the naming rights.

 

The team would never allow such a thing - it's just a cheap ploy for press.

 

Pink Taco is just crass. 

 

 

A weed dispensary....legit business, and the NFL is balls-deep in beer sponsorship. Alcohol is a worse substance (IMO, and I think most research backs this up) for the average person than weed is. 

post #145 of 1931
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
 

Kaep to the Broncos?  SF should hold out for a #1 pick.  Be it this year or next.  Denver is desperate for a QB as their window is short.

 

I also am starting to see mock drafts where Goff is dropping out of the top 10.  As much as I want the bears to focus on defense, a QB will be needed at some point in the next few years.  If this guy is legit then don't pass him up.

 

I wonder what that does to Chip. Not having his prototypical mobile QB to prove his precious scheme works leaves him at a loss again, I'm sure.

 

He'll spend a year in SF, wash out, then bounce back to college. As for Kaep, it sounds like SF is good with a mid-round pick, but the hitch is Kaep and Denver not being able to come to terms on a restructure. They're allegedly very off on numbers right now.

 

Jesus, these kids need to grow up and learn how to view the big picture. You want out of a sinking ship of a franchise that's poised to sink even deeper this season, and the team that just won the Super Bowl - with the defense that did most of the heavy lifting still intact - wants you. Take the fucking pay cut, then work on a deal later when you've got another winning season or two under your belt.

post #146 of 1931

For a guy that wants out so bad he is sure doing everything to stay.  How many teams does he think would want him?

post #147 of 1931
D.T., You are...Right! CK winning a...Super Bowl with Denver would get him the cover of...Madden 2018, a...Hard Knocks Life for Denver, and an invite to Dancing With The Stars!
post #148 of 1931
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For a guy that wants out so bad he is sure doing everything to stay.  How many teams does he think would want him?

 

I'm sure he views himself as a hot commodity, being that he went to the Super Bowl so early in his career. But it's ignorant and arrogant to consider himself in any sort of phase besides rebuilding his reputation and proving his worth. You don't get benched for Blaine Gabbert, then get to name your asking price on the team of your choice.

post #149 of 1931
Thread Starter 
Some sick part of me is rooting for Blaine Gabbett, but even last year his play was just adequate - compared to what he did in Jacksonville it just looked so much better.
post #150 of 1931

Peyton Manning has reportedly been offered Phil Simms' job right out from under him. I can stand Jim Nantz, but Simms is a mook, so this makes me happy.

 

While we're at it, can we have Manning replace both Aikman and Gruden, too?

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