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post #401 of 1927

Dish network has dropped NFL Network and RedZone.  I'm not terribly upset about this.  While I'll miss RedZone, that's about the only thing I'll be missing.

post #402 of 1927
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It'd be peak Johnny Footbaw if he vowed to make this his own personal Deflategate, and kept fighting the suspension so he never had to make the effort to try to come back to serve it in the first place.
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They may as well suspend OJ while they're at it

post #403 of 1927
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Manziel suspended four games whenever he comes back. On a related note: He'll never come back.

 

 

Yeah, exactly. 

 

 

I don't agree that he can't play; he looked like he had enough talent to carve out a nice McCown-like career as a backup, sometime starter. Problem is he just isn't worth the headache. 

post #404 of 1927

So, Amazon and NFL Films' new series All Or Nothing just launched their first season. It's centered around the Arizona Cardinals, and it's the most in-depth look at a pro football team - during an actual season - that's ever been produced. It's already being called incredible.

 

Free for everyone (with ads) and viewable without ads for Prime account holders. Let's all talk about how awesome my team is.

post #405 of 1927

Denard Robinson found by police in metaphor for Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

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 Jacksonville Jaguars running back Denard Robinson was found asleep at the wheel by authorities as his car was sinking into a retention pond in Jacksonville, Florida, early Sunday.
post #406 of 1927
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post #407 of 1927

BA does not fuck about.

 

Okoye came in with a chip on his shoulders, thinking he was hot shit because he was an Olympian. He didn't do the work, parked where he wanted, and they told him to fuck off. Then made an example of him for the rest of the team: follow directions, pay attention to details and no one is more special than anyone else.

 

Fine coaching, I say.

post #408 of 1927
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The problem is, that's not true. Guys are more special than others. If not they would all get paid the same. If Larry Fitzgerald parked in someone else's spot, you think they'd cut his ass?

 

You can make examples of practice squad players. You can't make examples of stars. And then what message are you really sending?

 

It's why Coughlin's rules finally ran him out of Jacksonville. You can't be so intractable that it becomes its own issue. You have rules to prevent issues from coming up.

post #409 of 1927

Parcells was a famous hardass, but everyone knew that LT had his own set of rules (which were demonstrably less constraining).  It is hardly restricted to football (or sports, or entertainment, or politics) that the elite are not subject to the same criteria as the norms.  That is life.

post #410 of 1927
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The problem is, that's not true. Guys are more special than others. If not they would all get paid the same. If Larry Fitzgerald parked in someone else's spot, you think they'd cut his ass?

 

You can make examples of practice squad players. You can't make examples of stars. And then what message are you really sending?

 

It's why Coughlin's rules finally ran him out of Jacksonville. You can't be so intractable that it becomes its own issue. You have rules to prevent issues from coming up.

 

 

I remember seeing Jimmy Johnson talking about cutting someone (a LB, IIRC....) for falling asleep in a meeting - "what would you have done if say, TROY AIKMAN fell asleep in a meeting?"; JJ - "I'd have walked over to him and said 'Troy, wake up' " - meaning if you want to have a different set of rules apply to you, you better be a goddamn fucking superstar.*

post #411 of 1927

* - which, I don't personally think Troy Aikman was all that great, but there were only maybe 4-5 QBs out there in the early 90s who were better than he was. So he was REALLY important to the team. 

post #412 of 1927
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The problem is, that's not true. Guys are more special than others. If not they would all get paid the same. If Larry Fitzgerald parked in someone else's spot, you think they'd cut his ass?

 

You can make examples of practice squad players. You can't make examples of stars. And then what message are you really sending?

 

It's why Coughlin's rules finally ran him out of Jacksonville. You can't be so intractable that it becomes its own issue. You have rules to prevent issues from coming up.

 

That's fair enough. I guess a better way to put it is, "you're not special until you earn it". Fitzgerald wouldn't get benched or cut for parking in someone else's spot, but Fitz is also the kind of guy who wouldn't park in someone's spot in the first place. He's a professional. Okoye didn't want to act like a professional, so the team decided he shouldn't be a professional at all.

 

Anyway, Calvin Johnson held nothing back in his latest interview. It's nothing we haven't heard before from other former stars, but it's still damning each time it comes from a huge superstar.

post #413 of 1927
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That's fair enough. I guess a better way to put it is, "you're not special until you earn it". Fitzgerald wouldn't get benched or cut for parking in someone else's spot, but Fitz is also the kind of guy who wouldn't park in someone's spot in the first place. He's a professional. Okoye didn't want to act like a professional, so the team decided he shouldn't be a professional at all.

Funny thing is, if he really can play, someone will let him play. He's in camp with Dallas. His future in the league will be dependent his performance there, not some parking issue.

 

The dude who broke Geno Smith's jaw, after all, is projected to be the Bills' starting DE while Lawson recovers from surgery.

 

Thanks for sharing that Johnson interview. About 10 years ago, that interview would be termed shocking, but now it just seems par for the course.

post #414 of 1927

In a time bereft of hope, we can at least be happy that Drew Magary's Why Your Team Sucks series has started back up on Deadspin - http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2016-tennessee-titans-1784250380

 

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The only job I’d hire Mularkey for is to play a concerned dad on SVU.
post #415 of 1927
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post #416 of 1927

And Aldon Smith continues to fuck himself.

 

Live-streamed a video of himself smoking weed (he's serving a suspension for substance abuse), but said in the video that it's okay and he won't get caught because he didn't use "Aldon Smith" in the user name or the video. Yes, he names himself in the video.

post #417 of 1927

Today's Why Your Team Sucks is about the Browns. Kudos to the reader who sent in this joke:

 

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 It’s going to be pretty ironic in 2020 when Johnny Manziel is the homeless drunk guy giving advice to Jimmy Haslam on which QB we should draft that year.
post #418 of 1927

The Rams have released Nick Foles.

 

Congrats, kid. You're going to get love letters from a lot of teams. I wish the Cardinals would make a move, but I bet Elway will move some money around to snag him.

post #419 of 1927
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I'm sure Andy Reid still has him on speed dial.
post #420 of 1927

PFT posted a look back at Ron Jaworski's hot take from 2014 that he would take Nick Foles over Russell Wilson anytime, just a year after he said that Colin Kaepernick might be the greatest QB of all time.

post #421 of 1927
Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
 

PFT posted a look back at Ron Jaworski's hot take from 2014 that he would take Nick Foles over Russell Wilson anytime, just a year after he said that Colin Kaepernick might be the greatest QB of all time.

 

 

I like Jaws....but I also like analysts being called out to account for all the shit they say. 

post #422 of 1927

Heading out in a few minutes to the Cardinals Training Camp.

 

Holy fucking shit, football is almost back.

post #423 of 1927

Football is almost back!

 

I grew up going to Rams games here in Anaheim; I haven't been to a regular season game since they left.

 

Just got my tickets in the mail... Rams @ Cards, Oct. 2nd.  I can't fucking wait.

post #424 of 1927

If you have to go to the LA Coliseum to watch an NFL football should it actually count? I mean seriously, I went to a Raiders game there over 20 years ago when I was in high school and it was an absolute dump then. I can't imagine how it is now.

post #425 of 1927

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Edited by Tomas Mejor - 8/3/16 at 9:58am
post #426 of 1927

This article on the Bennett Brothers is interesting, but the best part is their opinions of other players:

 

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SAM BRADFORD


(Both smirk.)


Michael: "The greatest quarterback in the NFL."

Martellus: "Vicious. Competitive."

Michael: "A real Joe Montana."

post #427 of 1927
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Heading out in a few minutes to the Cardinals Training Camp.

 

Holy fucking shit, football is almost back.

I started watching that Cardinals Amazon program, and holy shit I didn't realize Bruce Arians cussed so much. And it makes me laugh a lot. "Smoke here thought his middle name was 'mother fucker' for most of last year. But now he's 'Smoke' and he understands."

post #428 of 1927

My favorite Arians comment was, directed towards a referee, "That's un-butt-fuckin'-believable!"

 

The F-word flows from his mouth like a river. It's wonderful.

post #429 of 1927
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My favorite Arians comment was, directed towards a referee, "That's un-butt-fuckin'-believable!"

 

The F-word flows from his mouth like a river. It's wonderful.

 

 

"While some artists worked in oils, or clay, profanity [is Bruce Arians'] medium - a true master!" 

I haven't watched it yet, but I may be forced to do so because anyone who apparently curses like Dennis Farina can't HELP but be wildly entertaining. 

post #430 of 1927

He's also strangely sentimental and sage-like at times. He's a fascinating person with probably a zillion great stories to tell.

post #431 of 1927
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Heading out in a few minutes to the Cardinals Training Camp.

Holy fucking shit, football is almost back.

Man I frickin love football, and every time you post something about the cards it makes me wish that I lived in Detroit so I could take in all the great little extra football stuff like training camps...but then I come to my senses and remember that snow and winter both suck donkey balls, and am damn glad I live in Vegas instead. Seeing one game a year will just have to be enough I guess.

I'd say hope you had fun, but I'm 100% sure you did!
post #432 of 1927
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"While some artists worked in oils, or clay, profanity [is Bruce Arians'] medium - a true master!" 

I haven't watched it yet, but I may be forced to do so because anyone who apparently curses like Dennis Farina can't HELP but be wildly entertaining. 

The series is soooo good. I tore through it in a day.

 

Today, The Ringer previewed the Titans, with this tremendous Coach Mularkey (heh) quote:

 

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 “I’m going to do the things that I’ve had success with since 2001, and I will continue to do that until someone stops us,” said Mularkey, who served as the Titans’ interim head coach for part of the 2015 season and is now their full-time boss.

Chris Brown (@smartfootball) writes:

 

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 Since 2001, offenses Mularkey has been HC or OC for have ranked 29th, 29th, 29th, 28th, 31st

GO TITANS!

EDIT: Oh God, the more you read that article the more it's clear that they have zero clue how to use Mariota. UGGGGGGGGGGH


Edited by Mangy - 8/5/16 at 7:28am
post #433 of 1927

Well, if you were looking forward to kicking off the 2016 season by watching the Hall of Fame Game tonight, better make other plans:  the game has been cancelled due to the field not being in good enough condition to play.  Apparently the wrong paint was used on the midfield and end zone logos and the grass there is as hard as concrete.

 

Way to get the season off on a good foot, guys.

post #434 of 1927
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I'm sure Aaron Rodgers isn't complaining.

post #435 of 1927

The field was donated by the Saints, who used the turf last season. So, in summation, they used hand-me-down grass and didn't paint it properly for the only NFL event of the year in which it is used. The NFL just released a statement saying that safety is their top priority.

I can't imagine a Goodell-era season starting on a more appropriate note.

post #436 of 1927

David Baker took the field to make the announcement, apologize to fans and ensure that everyone would receive a refund.

 

...and his microphone wasn't working properly.

post #437 of 1927
Truly did not realize how much I've been missing footbaww until the hall of fame game was canceled, and that upset me.

The friken hall of fame game!
post #438 of 1927

So, they used the wrong paint on the turf and it wasn't drying. Some fucking rocket surgeon got the idea to heat the paint, which melted the rubber pellets in the turf, hardening those areas.

 

THEN (!) they tried to use chemical thinner to strip the turf and make it playable, but the thinner causes chemical burns when it comes in contact with skin.

 

Jesus fucking Christ, NFL.

post #439 of 1927
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So, they used the wrong paint on the turf and it wasn't drying. Some fucking rocket surgeon got the idea to heat the paint, which melted the rubber pellets in the turf, hardening those areas.

 

THEN (!) they tried to use chemical thinner to strip the turf and make it playable, but the thinner causes chemical burns when it comes in contact with skin.

 

Jesus fucking Christ, NFL.

 

 

The law of large organizations holds true. 

post #440 of 1927

GET HYPE.

 

post #441 of 1927

I am hype.

post #442 of 1927

My hype is also present and accounted for.

PRESEASON FOOTBALL STARTS TONIGHT! WOO! I'm already looking forward to caring for, oh, let's go with two minutes.

post #443 of 1927

NFL Network and Redzone were just added to SlingTV.

 

It's no Sunday Ticket, but for cord-cutters like me, this is BIG.

post #444 of 1927
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NFL Network and Redzone were just added to SlingTV.

 

It's no Sunday Ticket, but for cord-cutters like me, this is BIG.

Definitely. I had Sunday Ticket and Redzone years ago, and I think I may actually prefer Redzone. 

post #445 of 1927

I did Sunday Ticket last season, and it was fun but overwhelming. I had to do two TVs so I could watch the locally-televised games on one, and the other national games on the other, flipping back and forth. 90% of the time I head out to the brewery and watch games all day with family and friends, so I wasn't really getting the most out of the investment anyway.

post #446 of 1927

The kicker the Bucs drafted in the 2nd round just missed his first career extra point. FOOTBALL'S BACK BABY!

post #447 of 1927
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Definitely. I had Sunday Ticket and Redzone years ago, and I think I may actually prefer Redzone. 

Yes. I much more prefer RedZone. I will have to upgrade my Dish service to get RedZone again, dammit. And then back it all off again. I wonder if it would be cheaper to get Sling for 4 months. Is it on the basic $20/mo package?

post #448 of 1927
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Yes. I much more prefer RedZone. I will have to upgrade my Dish service to get RedZone again, dammit. And then back it all off again. I wonder if it would be cheaper to get Sling for 4 months. Is it on the basic $20/mo package?

It's $5 extra on the Sling Blue package, so the grand total is 30/month. I thought about getting it last night, but I don't want to spend that much to watch preseason games. I think I might suspend my HBO Now service to defray the cost.

post #449 of 1927

From the 3 minutes of game that mattered, I learned that Cousins still looks perfectly competent, DC's run game remains less than garbage, our special teams might be worse*, and the starting defensive secondary might, might be worth what it's being paid.

 

*Our punter, however, is amazing! WOOOT

 

The 90% of the game with the backups and soon-to-be-cuts was just awful to watch and reminded me why I need to ignore the preseason; but with the volume low I got some nice reading done, so an evening salvaged. The next couple weeks are going to be rough.

post #450 of 1927
I don't need the preseason to know the Bears will suck. They may win 8 but that's because a lot of the NFL sucks.
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