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Let's do 10,000 posts by nightfall.
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After the 100th "old age" joke. The one who makes the 101st one gets banned from everything forever.

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Fine, I'll bite.

Bridge of Spies and word around The BFG seem to point at The Beard being back to his old magic, and given Ford's performance in TFA, he might do a last hurrah for Indy.

I'm game for one last whiping.*

 

*innuendo aside, maybe they will finally address how Indy lost an eye?

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Aaargh no argh no argh no no noo no no.
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Wait, I'm asumming no Mutt/Shia, right?

You know what? Screw it, i'll say it:

 

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, "Adventures of Tintin" style.

Because, besides if you liked the movie or not, you have to admit its the closest Spielberg has come to replicating Indy's sense of adventure onscreen.

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THIS FRANCHISE BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
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Shia burned bridges. I actually thought he was fine in that film. Prick in real life, but I thought he had promise.

Lucas isn't mentioned being involved, so that's interesting.
post #8 of 1741
Cool news. Even mid seventies, Ford is so good. I wonder if it will recycle and repaint a bunch of stuff from the first movie.
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THIS FRANCHISE BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!

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Thank God none of that recasting Indy-Chris Pratt nonsense came to pass.

 

Spielberg's not stupid. He's aware of the backlash against the last film. I can see him wanting to go out on a high note with Ford playing Indy one last time. I bet that very thing will play into the plot.

 

Since George Lucas was always a big part of the story process, wonder if he will have even a little bit of say in the direction this film takes.

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Aaargh no argh no argh no no noo no no.*

 

 

*SO EXCITED!

post #12 of 1741
Eh, they might as well, it's not like it could be lamer than the last one.

I wonder if Lucas is involved at all?
post #13 of 1741
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Eh, they might as well, it's not like it could be lamer than the last one.

I wonder if Lucas is involved at all?

 

Nope, same as Star Wars.

Disney has the rights, Lucas is done with it.

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I say bring it on.  The possibility of Ford getting a proper send-off movie after CRYSTAL SKULL snatched away that LAST CRUSADE sunset ride is worth the gamble.  Let the old gang give it one more try before they have to hand it off to the young bucks.  And I think Ford's performance in THE FORCE AWAKENS combined with the fact that he walked away from a fucking plane crash recently serve as adequate rebuttals to the age issue.  Since Indy's mortality has always been a big part of his character, there's opportunity here.

 

There are absolutely ways to make this work, if they cared to.  For starters, keep Indy overseas (TEMPLE OF DOOM style) and leave Marion and Mutt to a reference about how they're doing fine.  And if they do THE GODFATHER PART II thing to introduce the new Young Indy from the 30s, the "Michael Corleone" story needs get like 90% of the runtime.


Edited by FatherDude - 3/15/16 at 12:17pm
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Nope, same as Star Wars.

Disney has the rights, Lucas is done with it.

 

 

Yeah, he's pretty busy it seems.

post #16 of 1741

Indy should be more of a mentor figure in this one. He should train the bastard son of a departed ally in the ways of archeology.

 

Michael B. Jordan is KATANGA.

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OH, WHAT A WONDERFUL TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!

Apart from all of the obvious horrors in the world, but still...
post #18 of 1741

Oh hell no.

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I don't get the baton passing and flashback suggestions. Why would anyone want anything less than 100 proof Indiana Jones while Harrison Ford is still with us and physically capable?


Edited by Barry Woodward - 3/15/16 at 12:27pm
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Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, "Adventures of Tintin" style.

 

You can't do Atlantis because as poorly executed as CRYSTAL SKULL was, it shot the "lost city" wad for the film franchise.  So there's another thing that movie ruined.

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I can't believe this is happening to all of us. It's like a global trauma. Our childhoods are collectively being rounded up and shot in the face.

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You can't do Atlantis because as poorly executed as CRYSTAL SKULL was, it did the "lost city" story of the film franchise.  So there's another thing that movie ruined.

With the right writers you can absolutely do anything you want. And seeing as it looks like Lucas is well away from writing duties and Disney is looking to stay on top of it's unbelievably successful nostalgia wave, I'd say right now there's as good a chance as any that Doctor Jones actually gets a well-written adventure this time.
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Fine. I'll be the first to embarass himself with a fan/nerd theory:

 

-Set in 60/70's.

-Mutt got killed in Nam.

-Marion and Indy divorced.

-Indy is a bitter alcoholic, going by on tenure at Bartlett and with no purpose in life.

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I kind of want the seemingly out-of-work Frank Darabont to be tapped, won over by the assurance that Lucas is no longer around to veto him, only for some Disney bigwig to pass on his script.  If only because I want to see just how much irony the weaves of our fragile universe can support without collapsing.

post #25 of 1741
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And the bad guys could be the Vietcon.
post #26 of 1741
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You can't do Atlantis because as poorly executed as CRYSTAL SKULL was, it shot the "lost city" wad for the film franchise.  So there's another thing that movie ruined.


Also, The Mummy franchise already did something with The Emperor's tomb and the clay army, so bye bye chinese dollar bait i guess?

post #27 of 1741
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Fine. I'll be the first to embarass himself with a fan/nerd theory:

-Set in 60/70's.
-Mutt got killed by a rabies-infected monkey scratch.
-Marion and Indy divorced.
-Indy is a bitter alcoholic, going by on tenure at Bartlett and with no purpose in life.
post #28 of 1741

Good news everyone! Shia Labeouf is being replaced with Jai Courtney for this movie. Phew!

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Also, Fate of Atlantis as a video game is so perfect as-is that a movie adaptation can only be a disappointment.  Plus I like to see it as part of the canon (I believe it takes place right before LAST CRUSADE).

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Good news everyone! Shia Labeouf is being replaced with Jai Courtney for this movie. Phew!

 

Original flavor vainilla Jai Courtney, or "Suicide Squad" beer swelling brogan shitbag jai Courtney?

 

EDIT: Anyone worried they might have Indy come across his long lost daughter, just to piss off the Tomb Raider people?

post #31 of 1741
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Original flavor vainilla Jai Courtney, or "Suicide Squad" beer swelling brogan shitbag jai Courtney?

 

 

He starts off as Vanilla Jai Courtney but, after hitting his head on a rock during an excitingly geriatric action scene, he becomes Brogan Shitbag Jai Courtney. Everyone ignores the personality shift apart from a perpetually confused John Hurt.

post #32 of 1741
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EDIT: Anyone worried they might have Indy come across his long lost daughter, just to piss off the Tomb Raider people?

 

That was an early thought for Indy 4, but apparently Spielberg vetoed it.  So they had versions where there was no child at all (ideal, if you ask me) before coming back to the offspring idea, but this time a son.

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He starts off as Vanilla Jai Courtney but, after hitting his head on a rock during an excitingly geriatric action scene, he becomes Brogan Shitbag Jai Courtney. Everyone ignores the personality shift apart from a perpetually confused John Hurt.

 

Okay, stupid idea: Indy runs into Mutt years after a falling out and Marion's death, only to find he has become a relic/treasure hunter douchebag.*

 

*Think Nathan Drake, but doucher.

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Can't believe we have to go through this again.
post #35 of 1741
Pair Indy with Mutt's granddaughter, so that she can spend every scene heaping vitriol on an absent Shia TheBeef. And also some archaeology happens. Maybe the Illinois Nazis from Blues Brothers can be the heavies. Who cares.
post #36 of 1741
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EDIT: Anyone worried they might have Indy come across his long lost daughter, just to piss off the Tomb Raider people?

 

Michael B. Jordan is WILLIE SCOTT.

post #37 of 1741

But seriously, they should bring back John Rhys-Davies.

post #38 of 1741

I dig Sallah but I kind of hope they don't "bring back" anyone this time. I want a one-shot Indiana Jones adventure with an all-new supporting cast.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 3/15/16 at 12:58pm
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With Indy married, my preferred variation on the Indy Girl for the final installment is a young apprentice he gets saddled with during the adventure who has an unrequited infatuation with him.

 

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But seriously, they should bring back John Rhys-Davies.

 

And in a real part.  They insulted him on CRYSTAL SKULL by offering him a green-screen cameo (serious!) at the wedding in which he's seen applauding in the background.  Rhys-Davies was someone who had been expressioning an interest in participating in Indy4 for like the whole decade leading up to it, but I cannot blame him for turning that horseshit down.

post #40 of 1741

Adam Driver needs to play a minor role in this as a henchman who Indy impales on a spike with a knowing smile.

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I can't believe this is happening to all of us. It's like a global trauma. Our childhoods are collectively being rounded up and shot in the face.
All we can do now is hunker down and pray that the industry finally implodes.
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I can do without Sallah. Let's really make this its own adventure with a new set of characters like the Bond films do. Sallah served a purpose in the first film and was nothing but dead weight in THE LAST CRUSADE.
post #43 of 1741
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With Indy married, my preferred variation on the Indy Girl for the final installment is a young apprentice he gets saddled with during the adventure who has an unrequited infatuation with him.

 

 

And in a real part.  They insulted him on CRYSTAL SKULL by offering him a green-screen cameo (serious!) at the wedding in which he's seen applauding in the background.  Rhys-Davies was someone who had been expressioning an interest in participating in Indy4 for like the whole decade leading up to it, but I cannot blame him for turning that horseshit down.

 

Bring him in, and pair Indy with Sallah's son or daughter, played by a middle-eastern/arabic actor/actresss

post #44 of 1741

What if the film is great? What if it's the ROCKY BALBOA or CREED of the franchise?

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I can do without Sallah. Let's really make this its own adventure with a new set of characters like the Bond films do. Sallah served a purpose in the first film and was nothing but dead weight in THE LAST CRUSADE.


He's the audience for the "named himself after the dog" joke at the end.

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What if the film is great?

 

What if destiny was never meant to be?

 

Damn you for making me type/remember that.

post #47 of 1741
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I can do without Sallah. Let's really make this its own adventure with a new set of characters like the Bond films do. Sallah served a purpose in the first film and was nothing but dead weight in THE LAST CRUSADE.

 

Hey, Sallah's defective camel math utterly justified his LAST CRUSADE appearance.

 

You're probably right though.  The issue with Sallah is that he really only makes sense if Indy's adventures take him back to the desert, and do we really need a third movie in a similar location?  It would feel weird if Sallah was alongside Indy as he goes exploring a Himalayan mountain temple or whatever.  I'm for fresh sidekicks all around.

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What if the film is great? What if it's the ROCKY BALBOA or CREED of the franchise?

 

Well this is the 5th INDY film so it's more likely it'll be on par with... oh dear.

post #49 of 1741

I really hope they go into this with the attitude of a last hurrah to set up whoever gets the young Indy gig.  Much of Ford's engagement in TFA had to come from knowing it was the last time he'd play Han; he knew he was free, and it showed.  Make a fitting apology for Crystal Skull, go out on a high, and let the new people take over.

post #50 of 1741
I'm wondering how the Paramount deal came through. LucasFilm signed a contract with Paramount for a five picture deal and had one left, unless it expired or Disney bought it and that's partly why it took so long to get this going after having bought LucasFilm four years ago.
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