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I feel so bad for Amy Adams.  It's only gotten worse and worse for her.

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She got her money.

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Adams didn't take Man of Steel for the art. It was a nice paycheck in a big studio franchise that kept her name out there in between her Oscar vying. 

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As someone who openly professes their love for Bryan Singer's Superman Returns and strongly likes Snyder's Man of Steel... it fucking amazes me how they keep making the same mistake onscreen (and fail to see it). Take a lesson from John Byrne's Man of Steel run. Stop making him so powerful right off the bat. It's hard to relate to your hero when he feels no pain. Why Indiana Jones and John McClane continue to be so revered. They bled. Made mistakes that almost cost them their lives. And even after winning the fight, they were left limping, bruised, hurt - didn't just shrug it off and moved to the next action set-piece.

 

Donner and Reeve showed you can embrace the Boy-Scout and still make it work. The character always has a resurgence when the world is in turmoil. For every "Superman is so outdated!" claim (You are guaranteed to hear this once a decade), you hear an overabundance of "If only there really was a Superman" after a national tragedy and the world openly accepts the notion of a selfless hero. Hence why Sam Raimi's Spider-Man exploded the year after 9/11.

 

Always thought if I did a Superman movie (HA!), I'd address the hokiness of the character right off the bat.

 

Lois: Why are you doing all of this? You're just one person.

Superman: Because someone has to... and I can.

 

I'll shut up now.


My kid made a Superman short that made me proud. It's got some technical issues but he's nailed the tone I think audiences prefer. 

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It's perfect.

And Tyrese is legit insane. Like, I'm confident he needs to be diagnosed as bi polar at the very least.

Maybe he’s just hungray?
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Maybe he’s just hungray?

 

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Scott Mendelson posted on FB that JL is "not a good movie but it's a good time at the movies."

 

I understand that distinction.

 

Oh, boy, I can't wait till Thursday. Seeing this with a friend who I also caught the last Purge and xXx movies with.

 

Translation: there will be a large abundance of Beavis and Butt-head laughter from us. Or angry silence.

 

And Scott's awesome. I loved his appearance on the Batman Blu-ray championing the movie.

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Ouch.

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Ouch.

 

OK.  Stick a fork in it.  This is over.  Last chance.  Burn it down and start over years from now when there's competence.  

 

I don't want an extremely interesting but frustrating and more shitty than not DCCU.  I don't.  Blergh.

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From Variety

 

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Snyder, as always, does tasty opening credits, setting a tableau of criminal hijinks to a soft-rock rendition of Leonard Cohen’s “Everybody Knows,” all as a way of dramatizing how badly America has been doing since Superman was killed. 
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Hehe

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/justice-league-review-dcs-superhero-embarrassment-beyond-saving/

 

I haven't seen any of these movies since Man Of Steel, which was already bad enough for me. But like the Transformers series the epic scale fiasco of this whole thing almost has me wanting to watch them just for the rubbernecking value.

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BvS's bad, minus the interesting and baffling.  Sounds like a nightmare.

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The Guardian - 2/5: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/15/justice-league-ben-affleck-dc-comics

Vanity Fair - "the essence of generic competence" - https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/justice-league-review
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Perhaps the Justice League franchise really has been rotten from the start, experiencing not evolution but entropy, with Wonder Woman standing as an anomalous glimmer of false hope. I could be projecting, but boy does poor Gal Gadot look so sad in Justice League, watching this lumbering and witless movie lay waste to the nice thing she just got finished making. It really is a shame. What a dumb irony, to end this movie, of all movies, on a note of bitter injustice like that.
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Hmmm. Looks like I might see Murder On The Orient Express on Friday instead.

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It's adorable for you to pretend like you won't see it.

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http://collider.com/justice-league-review/#poster

 

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You can also feel the consequences of Warner Bros. not putting in the time and effort to give these characters their own movies so we would be on board with them as individuals and have a baseline understanding of their differing viewpoints when they bounce off each other. Aquaman, Flash, and Cyborg all function like Wonder Woman did in Batman v Superman—characters who do enough to get our attention, but the task of making us care about them will come in a different movie. Batman v Superman, for all its faults, kind of gets away with it because Wonder Woman isn’t a large part of the movie, but Aquaman, Flash, and Cyborg are center stage in Justice League and there’s no hiding how little we know or understand them.
So Justice League leaves you hoping for next time. Did you like the brief trip to Atlantis? Wait until you see Aquaman. Did you like Wonder Woman taking on a leadership role? Wonder Woman 2 arrives November 2019. Did you laugh at all of Flash’s lines? Well there might be a Flashpoint movie down the road. Next time we’ll get it right. Next time we’ll be hopeful enough. Next time you’ll care about the villain. Next time you’ll get a Justice League that will really knock your socks off, but that's acknowledging that at least this one isn’t as bad as Batman v Superman. The only thing that “saves” Justice League is a low bar and more promises.
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https://www.empireonline.com/movies/justice-league/review/

 

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 ... vibing a little on a 2016-shitstorm sense of a world horribly gone wrong (Superman’s death is wonkily equated with the passing of Prince and Bowie) ...

 

Oh man.

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I feel like this was inevitable: Justice League always had the making of a Frankenstein project. DC freaked when people tore BvS a new one and tried their hardest to make their own Marvel-lite, superhero team-up movie. I never posted here because, honestly, I just found none of the trailers remotely interesting. And hearing the outside drama made it pretty likely that this was going to be a train-wreck. 

 

I'll probably catch this on dvd or something.

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Can't wait!

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Reading these reviews makes you realized why WB insisting on keeping the embargo in place until 2 days before the movie is released. I think Zack Snyder has already made his last DC movie, and I'll be surprised if this one made it pass one billion at the box office.
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That Vanity Fair piece is blistering. Mendelson's take is much softer and he seems to have found a lot to genuinely enjoy.

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I hear Elfman's score for this movie has pieces of his Batman theme, Williams's Superman theme, and the rest of it is Sad Trombone.
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This review is almost way, way too positive. It borders on glowing praise.

 

That makes me suspicious,

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Mendelson's legit. You may disagree with his take, but there's nothing to suspect.

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http://uproxx.com/movies/justice-league-review/

 

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"Seriously, I’m sitting here just stewing about this because a Justice League of America movie is something I’ve been waiting my whole life to see and this is it? We finally see all of these characters together in a live-action movie and they immediately start fighting an endless army of CGI Parademons (Batman’s role is to drive around and shoot Parademons with his Batmobile machine gun), under a CGI sky, inside some sort of CGI warehouse, in CGI Russia. My gosh, there’s CGI corn in this movie. CGI corn! Couldn’t they have gone to Kansas for one day? I’ve been to Kansas many times and there’s plenty of real corn – or maybe another corn-growing state that offers incentives to film there? I don’t know why the CGI corn got to me so much, but it did. There’s so much real corn in this world!"
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Mendelson's legit. You may disagree with his take, but there's nothing to suspect.

 

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 "Zack Snyder is among my personal favorite filmmakers, and I am obviously a huge fan of his work."

 

Really?

 

In all seriousness, I'm not saying he's insincere or a paid shill, or questioning his integrity. I'm just questioning his judgement. I've read about half a dozen reviews that critique the SFX in detail. Mendelson praises every shot and detail as if they're master works.

 

It just felt like too much of a polar opposite to me.

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You're making my point. You're free to disagree with his take and preferences. You said you were "suspicious" which seems to imply something beyond merely disagreeing with someone's tastes and conclusions.

 

If Scott is open about his liking for Snyder's work, I'm not sure what there is to be suspicious about.

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That review isn't by Mendelson, is it? It's by someone called Mark Hughes.

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JUSTICE LEAGUE?

It’s pretty suck.
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That review isn't by Mendelson, is it? It's by someone called Mark Hughes.

 

You're correct. I just assumed since it was Forbes, it was Scott's review. It's not.

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So, its either awful or mediocre.

Ouch. Guess tonite is going to be fun.

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

You're making my point. You're free to disagree with his take and preferences. You said you were "suspicious" which seems to imply something beyond merely disagreeing with someone's tastes and conclusions.

 

If Scott is open about his liking for Snyder's work, I'm not sure what there is to be suspicious about.

 

Fanboyism? rose-colored glasses? Wanting to like it because he love Snyder's work so much?

 

In any case, I'll back off from this for now. I agree with your sentiment. This review was just too positive that it struck me as odd.

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Gonna like the shit out of this so hard.

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Gonna like the shit out of this so hard.

You're just like Brad Millete isnt here anymore.*

 

*I apologize for yet another reference to that legendary thread, but sometimes I miss the old guard here at Chud. Funny bunch of bastards

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You're just like Brad Millete isnt here anymore.*

 

*I apologize for yet another reference to that legendary thread, but sometimes I miss the old guard here at Chud. Funny bunch of bastards

 

I'm pretty sure Bart remembers who Brad is.

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Every mention of Brad only makes me stronger!

 

Not Bradito, tho.

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Can't wait!

Are you already working up your theories on "Mother Boxes"?
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Oh man, I'm gonna get 5,000 words out of something. 

 

Just won't use as many visual aids as avian.

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Every mention of Brad only makes me stronger!

 

Not Bradito, tho.

 

We all have some challenges that are beyond our strenghts.

its okay.

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Well, at least we get something good out of this. I look forward to getting owned by Momoa Aquamans online this weekend

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Footage of me preparing to watch this movie.

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Good lord how is the unprocessed ketchup meter looking?
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Mark Hughes is one of those fanboy bloggers who always gets to see big movies way ahead of time. The studio know they will get nerdgasm reviews/tweets outta him.

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They really need to back a dump truck of money up to George Miller's house and jumpstart his version again.

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