This has the potential to be awesome. I can't wait to see who they cast in this, although I'm hoping for a recognizable name as the Captain (i.e someome like William Fichtner). Is it also too much to ask for Eddie Izzard as an alien in at least one episode?
The paid CBS streaming service that no one will use to watch this show.
Love that they're setting in the original Trek continuity after UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY. So excited!
As someone mentioned in another thread, Kirks death supposedly takes place within the same year as the end of UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY- and honestly Shatner looks so different now to how he did in 1994, I think they're probably better to leave well enough alone. Depending on how many years after VI this new series takes place (real time from 1991 would be 25 years--?!? bugger me!), perhaps cameos from Nichols, or Koenig could make sense. The easiest sell would be Sulu on the Excelsior, though it might even be too much to presume at this point he'd still be a Captain after 25 years, again assuming that timeframe.
I think the advantage in the post UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY time period is that we have that 25 years of post Cold War history to mine narratively. The Klingon empire fractures into smaller problematic territories- so you could have SOME Klingons be villains, while others are neutral.
I'll be thrilled to see the movie era mined production-wise. I still love the costumes and the general "Horatio Hornblower" aesthetic Meyer imprinted on the franchise- and as they've brought him back I can only assume they want SOME of that with him.
But more than that I'll love seeing what I consider to be the best starship period represented again- we should see all the old favourites in this series, the classic Constitution class design, Miranda (Reliant) ships, Oberth (Grissom) class, and of course Excelsior-style ships. But also the great Klingon ships- the (at this point sort of overused) Bird of Prey, and my favourite, the D7 Battlecruisers.
And the great thing is that the element of the shows that was SO restrictive back in the early TNG days- and really was throughout the whole series, the spaceship stuff, is probably one of the easier effects to execute on today. It's been "easier" for a while, but with 10 years of advancement between ENTERPRISE and now- I'm excited to see what quality level they'll be able to bring to this stuff on a healthy budget today.
TV is where TREK belongs. I'm very excited if you couldn't tell.
I agree that the "Blue Sky" of post NEMESIS timeline would be refreshing, but in the end what did that get us in TNG- they floated some "new" aliens in the early seasons. But outside of the Borg, ultimately STAR TREK ends up falling into the same patterns with the established species. Ferengi were the only other substantial additions, but they petered out to become an "also-ran" species.
We don't even know the context of the show at this point? Though it may seem well worn, I think it being about a crew on a ship is ultimately the "default" position for STAR TREK- it provides the most opportunity for seeking out situations and varying concepts from episode to episode. And as we haven't had that on TV for over a decade- it seems like the safest start for a new TV TREK franchise.
And though the appeal of "closed stories" could be very cool, the suggestion that it could be an anthology show I find intriguing, and pretty confusing. If the show ends up jumping around in time and casts, don't they loose a large amount of the ability to build an audience season to season? And budget-wise they'd be throwing a lot away on new sets for each new season. It's a strange choice if it ultimately ends up being true.
While I agree that locking viewers into a season-long arc is an entirely different mode of storytelling than TOS and a majority of TNG, I wonder what the repercussions really are. The kind of casual channel surfing that made up much of my youth was much more in tune with the episodic storytelling than the way we watch today- and certainly different to how younger viewers are growing up.
On one hand it's great to have bottle stories that can begin and end within the context of the episode, but the downside is 7 seasons of TNG, where there's a decided lack of growth or change to the cast or characters. You're as a viewer going to perceive growth and the passage of time- cause hey! it's been 7 years and the characters look different and older. But I'd like to think there's some middle ground between the two.
If the anthology thing is true, then my hopes are dashed for a "Doctor Who-esque" show where the crew of the ship can rotate naturally- either through standard promotion, or thru sudden consequences. The show would be essentially immune from becoming stale, cause the dynamics keep changing. I think I've mentioned before my likening it to a space LAW & ORDER.
I think that's where my parallel of LAW & ORDER comes from. Pretty much any season, almost any episode has a crime to hang it's hat on that doesn't require much in the way of deep knowledge of the show- but things can simultaneously be going on with the characters- and characters could (and would) be killed, fired, promoted, reassigned, or otherwise shuffled off. I think my feelings on this relate much more to an ongoing multi-year series with a single thru-line (like the Enterprise in TOS and TNG). If the idea of 1 season, one crew, anthology pans out to be true; then I think it probably bodes for serialized storytelling. 24 episodes and done (if that's even how many will make up a season- we don't know at this stage).
McCreary does the music for Outlander, Black Sails, The Walking Dead and Damien, too.
Fuller's had a different composer for every series he's done, so whoever he goes with is kind of up in the air. I could totally see him wanting to bring in someone to go for more of an Original Series feel to the score, though.
Edmund Butt (Ha!) is someone I'd love to hear do more. His score for the Doctor Who Docudrama AN ADVENTURE IN SPACE AND TIME was amazing. Got me to seek out his score for the BBC Earth show YELLOWSTONE which is pretty great too.
Just in case Mr. Stockslivevan's post wasn't implicitly stated as fact, on a quarterly earning call, CBS confirmed the January Premier date, a long with a weekly release schedule.
I guess number of episodes is the only general format question left to be answered.
TrekNews reports that the show will have a more specific title than STAR TREK.
Article on collider interviewing Fuller reveals some new info-
• 13 Episodes
• One serialized story
• announcements likely coming at ComiCon
• Flexible episode runtimes, like GoT
• sets starting to go up in a few weeks
• look for a colour-blind and inclusive cast
I'm torn. On one side, the wilderness period between VI and TNG would be filled with my favourite aesthetics in terms of design, costume, and ships. On the other hand, an open road is narratively the best choice for the writers.
Although truthfully, I'd have to say that even if this show is post-Nemesis, invariably the known races always fall into common patterns of temporary allies and enemies. With that in mind, there's a lot of narrative wiggle room in that VI to TNG period. Klingons are at best uneasy allies with things changing after the Khitomer attack. And at some point there's a conflict with the Romulans, possibly culminating with attack on Narendra III. and the destruction of the Enterprise C... after which at some point they disappear from view for "decades" leading up to their S1 appearance on TNG. There's also the Cardasian War, which I guess took place about 5-10 years before TNG.
I dunno, a lot of territory to mine, with only a few real touchstones to worry about in the 70 year gap.
So, looks like in most international markets this show will be on Netflix, 24hrs after release on CBS's streaming service.
The big exceptions are obviously the US, where as we know the show will stream exclusively on CBS All Access.
But also excluded is Canada (of course), where Bell has negotiated exclusive broadcast and streaming rights (of course). CTV will air the pilot episode (ala CBS in the US), then SPACE will broadcast the show simultaneous with it's release schedule on CBS All Access. Episodes will be available at some point on-line thereafter on Crave, Bell's streaming platform. Ug!