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Elle (2016, dir. Paul Verhoeven)

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Paul Verhoeven is back.

 

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PROMISING!

 

 

 

by the way, Agent... DID YOU KNOW... that SKYFALL is the ONLY Bond film directed by an Oscar winning director????  how'bout dat???

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by the way, Agent... DID YOU KNOW... that SKYFALL is the ONLY Bond film directed by an Oscar winning director????  how'bout dat???

NO WAY

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IIIIIIIIIIT'S TRUE!

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But who directed Spectre?

Or are we trying to remember and forget at the same time this very fact?
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Um, actually, Skyfall and Spectre were both made by an Oscar winning director.

@_@
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Um, actually, Skyfall and Spectre were both made by an Oscar winning director.

@_@


But maybe she was trying to forget Spectre but keep reminding everyone how great Skyfall is?

In an Dutch newspaper he said that feminists will not be happy with the movie. It will not be a typical rape-revenge movie but i gathered that because the book the movie is based on was already controversial when it was released.

Anyway, i hope Verhoevens health issues has not hindered him making a movie that can stand alongside with his older work.
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Um, actually, Skyfall and Spectre were both made by an Oscar winning director.

@_@

yea right 

 

get outta town

 

your high!

post #9 of 78
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Verhoeven should do a Bond movie.
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Total Recall is his Bond movie.
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Verhoeven should do a Bond movie.

EON is too stuck up about being 'classy' to give it to someone like Verhoven.

 

Maybe Verhoven in Black Book mode........

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"See you at the party, Richter!" may be the greatest moment ever committed to celluloid.

I see that I missed that Verhoeven directed another film, the experimental TRICKSTER, which was released in the US earlier this year. At 53 min, it's not a full feature, but it seems fun enough. I'll probably rent it tomorrow.
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In the same mentioned Dutch newspaper article Verhoeven was busy making a Dutch movie and he still pursuing his quest to make his ultimate Jesus movie.

So no James Bond movie on the radar even though James Bond was one of his earliest influence as a filmmaker.
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EON is too stuck up about being 'classy' to give it to someone like Verhoven.

Maybe Verhoven in Black Book mode........
Yeah, it would never happen. But I'll put him on my Bond director wishlist along with the likes of Wong Kar-Wai, Johnnie To, Chan-Wook Park, Edgar Wright...

Essentially, I'd like to see Bond movies become the feature film equivalent of THE HIRE.
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That would be so cool.

 

I loved THE HIRE.

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In the same mentioned Dutch newspaper article Verhoeven was busy making a Dutch movie and he still pursuing his quest to make his ultimate Jesus movie.
I still hope that Jesus movie happens. His early outline for the film was wild.
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So I gave TRICKED a viewing. A fun, but insubstantial, lark. The best moment involves a pair of scissors.
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"Elle, however, may just be his most maniacal work to date, a film that runs boldly up and down the tonal bandwidth, zig-zagging from pitch-black horror to devilish satire to light domestic comedy and then back again."

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/21/elle-review-paul-verhoevens-brazen-revenge-comedy-is-a-dangerous-delight
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"Elle, however, may just be his most maniacal work to date, a film that runs boldly up and down the tonal bandwidth, zig-zagging from pitch-black horror to devilish satire to light domestic comedy and then back again."

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/21/elle-review-paul-verhoevens-brazen-revenge-comedy-is-a-dangerous-delight

Thanks for sharing!

Yes, despite the controversial nature of the film so far it seems, from what i read so far, the movie's positively received by the critics.

http://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/elle-review-1201780097/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/elle-cannes-review-896270
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The caveats some critics have inserted into otherwise effusive reviews are hilarious.

Brace yourself for the thinkpieces.
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Isn't that sort of what's expected though? Considering the subject matter, it's destined to push some buttons. 

 

Don't think there's anything wrong with a thinkpiece then.

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It seems like critics are inserting caveats purely in the interest of shielding themselves from backlash, like a Republican politician who is "supporting," but not "endorsing," Trump.
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A friend of mine who attends Cannes every year as a correspondent said that this was by far her favourite film of the festival and that it, along with German comedy "Toni Erdmann", was easily the most popularly loved film over there.
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It seems like critics are inserting caveats purely in the interest of shielding themselves from backlash, like a Republican politician who is "supporting," but not "endorsing," Trump.

aaaah. That's what you meant.

 

Yeah, in the review I read for it, it all but does this.

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FYI, the US theatrical release date for ELLE has been set at Nov. 11.
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Watching it tomorrow night!!!!
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I'm jealous!
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Saw it a few months ago, and I guess it was all right. I was hoping Verhoeven (I *love* this guy) would play with the rules of French drama the same way he did the with rules of US blockbuster (with basically Isabelle Huppert instead of Schwarzenegger. Both actors carry a huge baggage in their own style) but I thought it was pretty tame, tonally and visually. This is definitely not a family friendly movie, but you could have expected something (even) more abrasive from Verhoeven.

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Remarkable movie. Isabelle Huppert gives a performance so beyond anything I've seen this year that it's bound to be ignored come awards time.

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can't wait!
 

I asked my local theater if they'd be getting this and they had no dates set yet.  But they were hopeful.

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Yeah, I'm dying to see this.
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Just be prepared, the film is far closer to a pitch-black comedy than the thriller the above trailer makes it out to be.

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NO don't tell me anything!!!
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Just be prepared, the film is far closer to a pitch-black comedy than the thriller the above trailer makes it out to be.

Yes, it is definitely that.

 

And agreed that Huppert's incredible in this.

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waiting in the lobby to see this

the perfect christmas film

happy holidays, y'all!!
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I'm only just now getting back to going to the movies after a few busy months, but I'm going to be pissed if I missed this.
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don't miss it!!!

eugh trailers still

JUST START THE MOVIE!!!
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UNGH so good

the discussions we can have!!!
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A friend of mine who attends Cannes every year as a correspondent said that this was by far her favourite film of the festival and that it, along with German comedy "Toni Erdmann", was easily the most popularly loved film over there.

 

I saw a trailer for this before ELLE, and had no idea what it was about!

 

Looking forward to it!

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Gonna be watching Toni Erdmann tonight, I'm jazzed! 

 

But back to Elle, how funny is it? I was laughing beginning to end.

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"Does this image from the video game make you ANGRY or UPSET?"

 

"Angry."

 

"Angry"

 

"Angry"

 

(all straight-faced)

 

 

ME:  AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

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Happy to see this do well at the Golden Globes.

 

Best Actress in a Drama

 

Best Foreign Language Film

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don't miss it!!!

eugh trailers still

JUST START THE MOVIE!!!

Looks like I didn't miss it. It's playing tomorrow at my local arthouse theater.
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No wonder Hupert won the Golden Globe.

 

WOW. I really don't think I've seen a better performance this year, male or female. And the movie is so magnificently Verhoeven. Removing himself from Hollywood's vampirism continues to prove a great decision again and again.

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Really liked this, especially the way all the characters are portrayed as having their own private deals going on. I did think the subplot about Huppert's father was distracting-- was the idea that she felt guilty for assisting him, and sought to be punished?

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Speaking of Verhoeven's Jesus project, the bit where Huppert's son, the only compassionate human in the film, stands with arms outstretched (to measure for a bookshelf) was pretty obvious symbolism.

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I did think the subplot about Huppert's father was distracting-- was the idea that she felt guilty for assisting him, and sought to be punished?

I think it's an element meant to paint her as a very specific character.  She's got SUCH a fucked up past about herself, men, and the police that we as an audience can buy why she outwardly brushes off the fact that she's assaulted and continues living her life as 'normal'.

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Yeah, she feels so far apart from everyone that she can't be expected to deal with things in a "normal" way.

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Looks like I didn't miss it. It's playing tomorrow at my local arthouse theater.

GOOD!!!
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Just arrived and it'll start in 25 minutes. Still haven't seen La La Land because I just don't favor Emma Stone. She's not a bad actor, I just don't find her compelling. Maybe I'll get over that in time to see it.

Elle will be the first Verhoeven film I've seen in theaters since Hollow Man. It feels wrong just saying that.
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