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post #1 of 56
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New horror series on Cinemax called OUTCAST.

 

Created & Written by Robert Kirkland it was originally a comic book (I had not read it) it follows a man living in West Virginia, starting to socialize again after some disturbing events in his life. Through flashbacks we see that his mother went crazy when he was a young boy, beat him and locked him in a pantry while she went wild in the house, having fits of anger and smashing stuff up. We see that his wife too suffered a similar problem, attacking their child.

He hooks up with the local Minister (played by UK actor Phillip Glenister, with a flawless American accent--which is weird as he has a distinct and heavy British accent)  who has been asked to attend to a local boy acting out the same way. Is the boy just having some emotional problems or is he somehow possessed. Turns out the latter, and appears to be the same effects as the main character's Mother and wife. Together with the holy man they attempt to help the lad.

The first episode was compelling and well acted, and the flashbacks came brief and were easy to plug into the current timeline events.

Anyone else see this?

post #2 of 56

Phillip Glenister with an American accent? I've got to see this now.

post #3 of 56

Loved the first episode, directed by THE GUEST and YOU'RE NEXT director Adam Wingard. Very eerie atmosphere, some truly horrific images and compelling performances by Fugit and Glennister. Excited to see where it goes...

post #4 of 56

This was great, count me as a big fan of Wingard's other work. The characters in the pilot managed to hook me, with just enough going on under the surface that I want to know more. I also love Reg E Cathey showing up in things. 

post #5 of 56
Has anyone read the Kirkman comic?
post #6 of 56

Wingard is cool, but Kirkman's stamp on it is enough to keep me away forever.

post #7 of 56

That's too bad because it feels nothing like Kirkman's other tv adaptations. This is a solid pilot and the characters didn't immediately make me want to punch myself in the face. 

post #8 of 56

TONIGHT!

 

I've been looking forward to this all week. Looks great and Wingard's YOU'RE NEXT is one of my favorite horror flicks of the last couple of years so I'm not surprised the pilot is solid.

post #9 of 56

That was an excellent hour of horror television. I`m in for the season!

post #10 of 56

Shockingly good pilot. I fully expect it to turn into a shitshow - that is the Kirkman way - but for now I'm totally in. I already like the characters more than any of those on TWD.

post #11 of 56

Yeah. I'm not the biggest Walking Dead fan in the world, in fact I actually hated most of the TV show, but this was a pretty promising start. Good horror shit, too.

post #12 of 56

I dug how part of Kyle's method for exorcising the demon is punching a boy in the face.

post #13 of 56

Yeah, this was a really good pilot. I thought Patrick Fugit was especially good as Kyle. It's pretty tough to take a withdrawn, socially awkward and broken character, and make them engaging enough for an audience to want to follow, but Fugit did a great job with it. 

 

Not sure how they can make an entire series out of this concept (as I've never read the books) but I definitely want to see what happens next.

post #14 of 56

The kid who played Joshua was really good. Creepy as all get out. 

 

Wingard is heavily involved with this so I have a good feeling that it will be solid.

post #15 of 56

The only issue I had was getting used to Glenister with a US accent, but that sure as Hell ain't the show's fault.  I'm in.

post #16 of 56
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I dug how part of Kyle's method for exorcising the demon is punching a boy in the face.

Yeah I didn't know I could enjoy kid punching this much. Special blood saved the day though.

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Yeah I didn't know I could enjoy kid punching this much. Special blood saved the day though.

 

Should be interesting how they delve into that aspect.

post #18 of 56

Woah. This show is gnarly. I like it.

post #19 of 56

Same here.  Gritty, spooky and interesting characters. Also, Brent Spiner!

post #20 of 56

Loved that shot of the bicycle woven into the roots of the tree; an image of a childhood interrupted without warning and never reclaimed.

 

This show is really damn good. So good, in fact, that I have trouble believing Robert Kirkman was involved. 

 

Also: Much praise to this show's composers. The score over the last two episodes have been quite wonderful and fully complimented what was unfolding on-screen.

post #21 of 56
That's Atticus Ross of Nine Inch Nails fame.
post #22 of 56

This show is excellent so far. That raccoon forest would scare the fuck out of me. 

post #23 of 56

I'm kinda disappointed that, after the first two episodes, the third episode appears to turn the show into Supernatural 2

 

Don't get me wrong; I loved Supernatural, but the first two episodes of Outcast didn't suggest (at least to me) that we were heading toward "Demon of the week" stories. Supernatural also had the benefit of other threats, whereas I can see monotony setting in if the two protagonists only confront possessed individuals each episode. 

 

I also don't really find Megan an engaging enough character for the show to keep cutting back to her. I guess others may disagree, but I find myself wanting to get back to the demon exorcising every time it returns to Megan's story.

 

Nice to see Lee Tergesen pop up as Blake Morrow. He was always one of my favorite actors on Oz, and I thought he was really great here. 

post #24 of 56

Well, considering that the demon in question wasn't your run of the mill one it's definitely connected to a much larger picture.  We'll see how that develops next week.

post #25 of 56

I knew it. The kid died. Even if he isn't a demon he's certainly not completely human.

post #26 of 56
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I also don't really find Megan an engaging enough character for the show to keep cutting back to her. I guess others may disagree, but I find myself wanting to get back to the demon exorcising every time it returns to Megan's story.

 

That's the problem with a lot of shows. They're so used to the formula where every character gets his own little subplot that they don't consider whether it's making the show weaker. Still, I'm digging Outcast a lot. I had no idea I could possibly be enjoy a Robert Kirkman show more than an adaptation of Preacher, but there you go...

post #27 of 56

Unfortunately I didn't care too much about the pilot, largely because it's very much an excorcism show. Hearing that it's following a demon-of-the-week format makes me really not care to keep watching.

post #28 of 56

So far, the first 3 episodes have me hooked. I have the last one from Friday to watch. I like how the 33rd episode messed with the formula a bit. You think it's going to be Demon of the week but now it's a bit different. Also, the whatever had things to say that cause more questions. My Girlfriend is pretty annoying during these episodes, "Why they'd say that?", I don't know, lets watch the show and see what happens. A good sign though as she's the kind of person that reads the last pages of a book first.

post #29 of 56
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Enjoying this, tho it's a bit slow. I've not read the comics it's based on, so I don't have the advantage of having some of the important questions answered before seeing the TV series..Clearly there's some 'entity'(s) going around taking over people. I'd think this is 'demon/evil' oriented, but that'd be so expected, so I lean toward some extraterrestrial element.

 

But whatever it is it makes humans angry and violent--if it were alien forces you'd think they would manipulate the host towards some alien-group goal. Maybe I'm over-thinking it. The dedicated holy man who knows there's an evil and goes at it, and the tortured man who seems tied throughout his life to this--is it stalking him or just has him earmarked as the next family member to be taken over. but why? 

 

I'm less distracted by Phillip Glenister's flawless American accent, and can focus on the show better. Seriously, if some of you are seeing Outcast and have never seen Glenister before, he's been in lots of UK TV series like 'Life On Mars' or 'Mad Dogs' it's startling. Here is a clip from a Jonathon Ross show--stick with it for a couple minutes till he joins the host and they show a clip from Mars (a brilliant series if you've not seen it). 

 

post #30 of 56

I liked the first episode well enough, but after it was over I couldn't help thinking "How is this different from Supernatural season 1, minus the stylings of Jensen Ackles?".

 

The visual aesthetics of the posessed people were pretty damn weak. They are slightly paler, they have itchy arms, and they chew their lip a little bit. That's it, seriously? You're hanging the show on this premise, and that's all you can come up with?

 

I suppose I shouldn't expect any more from the guy that came up with "OK, there's a zombie outbreak. Except this time...well, yeah, nevermind, they're just regular zombies I guess. There is literally nothing to distinguish my zombie outbreak story from any other, not one single defining aesthetic characteristic. It's in the South, though? And everyone is stupider?"

post #31 of 56
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I liked the first episode well enough, but after it was over I couldn't help thinking "How is this different from Supernatural season 1, minus the stylings of Jensen Ackles?".

 

The visual aesthetics of the posessed people were pretty damn weak. They are slightly paler, they have itchy arms, and they chew their lip a little bit. That's it, seriously? You're hanging the show on this premise, and that's all you can come up with?

 

I suppose I shouldn't expect any more from the guy that came up with "OK, there's a zombie outbreak. Except this time...well, yeah, nevermind, they're just regular zombies I guess. There is literally nothing to distinguish my zombie outbreak story from any other, not one single defining aesthetic characteristic. It's in the South, though? And everyone is stupider?"

Ahh but this zombie stories has amazing characters who it's really about anyway and..........hahahahahahaha.

 

I actually ok with everything right now but just like Preacher they need to work their shit out.

post #32 of 56

I'm so glad that my fears about this show turning into "possession of the week" haven't quite manifested in the way I feared. Really enjoyed the most recent episode (the two leads continue to have great chemistry) and am intrigued by the ongoing investigation into the crime scene even though I'm 95% certain his friend's wife is the possessed culprit. 

post #33 of 56
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I'm so glad that my fears about this show turning into "possession of the week" haven't quite manifested in the way I feared. Really enjoyed the most recent episode (the two leads continue to have great chemistry) and am intrigued by the ongoing investigation into the crime scene even though I'm 95% certain his friend's wife is the possessed culprit. 

Yeah the last episode is much more what im looking for from this show. I like how human the preacher is. He actually seems jealous of Outcast powers. There is a real possibility that he has never once actually exorcised a demon.

post #34 of 56

I think there's the underlying tension between the two because Reverend Anderson is implied to have given up his family to serve God only to discover that he's had no effect at all, and now he's encountered a guy who hasn't demonstrated an ounce of Faith but can destroy demons with his bare hands. I think the Reverend is going to find that harder and harder to deal with as the show goes forward.

 

I really liked the demon to demon scene (assuming the man in black is a demon). I hope we get a few more interactions between the demons.


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post #35 of 56
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I think there's the underlying tension between the two because the Reverend Anderson is implied to have given up his family to serve God only to discover that he's had no effect at all, and now he's encountered a guy who hasn't demonstrated an ounce of Faith but can destroy demons with his bare hands. I think the Reverend is going to find that harder and harder to deal with as the show goes forward.

 

I really liked the demon to demon scene (assuming the man in black is a demon). I hope we get a few more interactions between the demons.

Yes. I do wonder why she won't survive and what exactly she was doing to him. I assume it's some kind of soul/life force suck but of course it wouldn't work on demons and why wouldn't she already know that? Why try to kill him at all? Why come see her? Im finally IN with this show.

post #36 of 56

First episode was amazing,  it's been a bit hit and miss since which is a shame because I really like some of the characters

 

Took me a while to recognize brent spiner aka data from star trek tng. good to see him getting work

post #37 of 56
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First episode was amazing,  it's been a bit hit and miss since which is a shame because I really like some of the characters

 

Not too different from that other Kirkman show - apart from featuring a few more likeable characters.

 

It's still worth watching but nothing so far has lived up to the promise of that pilot.

post #38 of 56

Well the last few episodes have certainly muddied the waters a bit, morally speaking.

 

So what's the deal with Sidney? Did he let the flashback kid go because he was morally repulsed by his host's actions? It certainly doesn't help him fly under the radar to have half-naked boys running for their lives out the front door of his home -- I can only imagine he would've had to clear out pretty quickly after that. So it wasn't a pragmatic move.

 

I'm betting Kyle gets off the fence at season's end, when whatever the demons' ultimate agenda happens to be is ultimately revealed.

post #39 of 56

Yeah, it's not as clear cut as I thought it was going to be which makes it all the more interesting.  Ultimately the real threat from the demons will be revealed because this isn't a show about co-existing with possessed people.

post #40 of 56

#PosessedLivesMatter.

post #41 of 56

This episode's events have been the most interesting Kirkman related plot development I've ever seen. I'm really intrigued at where the show is going now. 

post #42 of 56

They really pulled the rug out from under me this episode. I can't wait to see where they go with this. Anderson's downfall has been painful to watch. 

post #43 of 56

I've been utterly convinced for a while that these people are possessed by renegade angels rather than demons. The recent revelation by the Church caretaker that he felt warmth whilst possessed only further convinced me that I'm right.

post #44 of 56
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I've been utterly convinced for a while that these people are possessed by renegade angels rather than demons. The recent revelation by the Church caretaker that he felt warmth whilst possessed only further convinced me that I'm right.

Yes I thought that too. I just hope it isn't something like Aliens.

post #45 of 56

To be honest, I just want Christopher Walken to turn up, essentially playing the same part as in The Prophecy

post #46 of 56

I think they are demons, just more morally neutral as opposed to inherently evil. The "warm" feeling may not have anything to do with the creatures' good or evil nature (or maybe it does... they do come from Hell -- presumably -- after all). On the other hand, maybe that warm feeling is one of acceptance; whereas the soul encourages us to feel shame for our foibles and transgressions, a demonic presence might lack any sort of moral judgment whatsoever. Possessed folks could be experiencing the first moment of true, complete nonjudgmental self-acceptance of their lives.

post #47 of 56

Well, shit just got real. Fuck.

post #48 of 56

I had a feeling that might be coming at some point but that was fucking brutal. 

post #49 of 56

I actually did not see that coming so yeah that was crazy. 

post #50 of 56

I'm digging this show, but not loving it yet.  I really liked that episode nine ending, though. 

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