STAR TREK BEYOND Post-Release
I think that's totally fair. Too many people pay to see obligation blockbusters they don't really want to sit through, and studios pump out garbage.
Hopefully you dig it on HBO.
Concerning the finale:
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I had been rooting against this movie, due to my JJ hatred and wanting his failure to be complete or something. But the reviews are decent, and seem to be emphasizing this one isn't like the first two, and I like Justin Lin, and Star Trek, soooo...it looks like I'm going to see this in the theater.
Edited by justinslot - 7/17/16 at 10:54pm
Unless you're a Donald Trump-level asshole, I don't think that's possible. Or, maybe, to a lesser extent, hating someone like Bill Cosby or Roman Polanski - who truly did egregious, unforgivable things.
At least not for normal people. I detest Zack Snyder's films to the point that I find BvS his masterpiece, but the guy himself just strikes me as a dumb meathead who hit it big. Nothing he's ever said indicates that he's a bad person, just a bad filmmaker.
JJ Abrams seems to be a genuinely cool, well-meaning dude. I can't see any reason to hate him other than nerd-rage, and nerd-rage is just plain fucking dumb. Nerd-rage makes idiots send death threats to comic book writers over the stories they wrote.
However: as a filmmaker, he produces shoddy, poorly-thought-out crap that functions solely on a nine-year-old "you know what would be AWESOME!?" level and not always even then, and worse still, he's a smug prick about it. Anybody who signs onto a series despite being openly disdainful of it can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
I've heard the same thing about Abrams too from people who used to work in visual FX!
You can definitely hate someone you don't know, though it's petty and small and irrational. And I am not immune to pettiness and irrationality.
But my meaning wasn't personal in this case, or even literal. I'm just not on Team JJ.
With Anton gone, that's how I'm going into this film because frankly, I don't want to see another film with this cast without him. That young man, with very little screen time, is wonderful as Pavel.
And you're dead on right about TREK '09 and INTO DARKNESS. Completely agree with you...
Ugh, no, say it ain't so. What a boring nothing of a movie. This why when Beyond reviews mention it's like a Star Trek episode I have this negative connotation blaring in the back of my head while other fans are all huzzahing and stuff. Cuz that's what Insurrection was like, like they took a rejected script from the TNG series and said, hey, let's just make this into a movie. It even looked like a slightly higher quality TV episode (which I know Beyond won't have as much issue with). Kinda mind-boggling that mostly the same creative team that made the totally legit, Top 3 Trek movie First Contact could turn around with 13 more million in their budget and make the utterly forgettable Insurrection (and then Nemesis tried hard to be awesome and ended up even worse). what a difference Ronald D. Moore and ILM make, eh.
Anyways, I will try to have faith that Beyond is more of a movie than Insurrection, which itself is still gads better than the atrocity that is Into Dumbness.
Not as good as the 2009 entry but better than Into Darkness (not hard.)
The good - cast are solid, humour works, effects are top-notch and the score is excellent if a little predictable. Plus the cast members no longer with us get nice tributes.
The bad - piss-poor villain, action beats and set pieces we feel like we've seen before, Justin Lin does an admirable job overall but the action is poorly shot and edited and very hard to follow at times.
Overall, for better or worse, it's a Star Trek film. It won't stay with me nor do I have any desire to see it again.
That sounds fantastic.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sort of reminds me of the many times Kirk (or other teams) has gotten his crew out of a bind with clever use of the transporter (or otherwise tricked an enemy into using their own technology against their self) and so on, and I imagine it plays out in a semi-similar fashion.
By the way the entire film has already been spoiled online, so unless you really want to know I would avoid the film's wikipedia page. Usually I don't mind spoilers, but after how dull this summer has been I would actually like to be surprised.
Edited by Itsnotatumor - 7/20/16 at 7:57pm
Well, I guess that at least beats World War Z, which set out to be as aggressively bad as possible as soon as possible after the film started.
It is and it isn't. There is not quite as much action in this as you would have thought based on the trailers. The stuff that worked best for me were the quieter moments and the interactions between the characters. The plot itself is paper-thin but it moves so fast you barely notice. Like I said, fun but silly. And ultimately inconsequential.
And that there is the biggest crime for films in general but especially a Star Trek film (to be fair, it wouldn't be the first time in the series, there's been multiple offences across the entire history of Star Trek in film).
And I didn't quite understand how Kirk, who's three years into his five-year mission, is up for a Vice Admiral job.
Oh FFS, did every other experienced captain get wiped out in Trek '09?