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post #1351 of 1383

Worst Enterprise death for me was in Beyond, because it wasn't voluntary and it was so fucking vicious.

post #1352 of 1383

Yes. The more vicious the better. 

 

Like I said, I like it when ships get fucked up, whether on the high sea or in space. 

 

Not World War II movies though. I don't truck with that.

post #1353 of 1383
What 'Worst' usage are we using? Execution or the severity?
post #1354 of 1383
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Here's a shot of the partial set from filming:




It was extended through green screen use, but my understanding was the blue panels were the intended look.  No FX incompetence, just cruddy production design.  Yay!

Bingo. My friend actually asked Jonathan Frakes about the blue screens at the 2015 Vegas convention. Frakes didn't seem thrilled to be asked about it, and basically just said it was intentional but "looks like shit."
post #1355 of 1383

In Michael Piller's Fade In, excerpts from the script describe the interior as behaving like a house of mirrors before the reflector gets deployed, and revealing outer space through the framework after. Somebody must have underestimated how much reference and prep the visual FX team would need in order to fill that in. I've heard similar stories about other films.

post #1356 of 1383
Isn't there too much bluespill going on to actually make that work? That's the only tell that indicates it was just a bad design rather than intended for composites. The reflective mirrors thing seems way too complicated, especially for a non-ILM f/x team in the 90s.
post #1357 of 1383
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So that's what Sallah sings during Raiders.

I always thought it was a British car is a soaring soul... which made no sense. A British Tar makes no sense either, and I'm British.

What? I have nothing to add about Star Trek.

I love Troi's hips. There.

Tar is old, old, old slang for sailor.
post #1358 of 1383
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Isn't there too much bluespill going on to actually make that work? That's the only tell that indicates it was just a bad design rather than intended for composites. The reflective mirrors thing seems way too complicated, especially for a non-ILM f/x team in the 90s.

 

Like I said, worse has happened. There's a particularly obnoxious story about a production that thought they could save on budget by not bringing the FX supervisors along on a shoot for a sequence that would require extensive match-move compositing. Turned out their idea of "tracking markers" on location was full-size orange traffic cones...

 

I have no problem believing that someone thought "put bluescreen everywhere, fix it in post" was a good idea.

post #1359 of 1383
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Like I said, worse has happened. There's a particularly obnoxious story about a production that thought they could save on budget by not bringing the FX supervisors along on a shoot for a sequence that would require extensive match-move compositing. Turned out their idea of "tracking markers" on location was full-size orange traffic cones...

 

 

What movie was that?

 

Asking for a friend.

post #1360 of 1383

I believe it was Spiderwick Chronicles.

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post #1362 of 1383
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No Guarantee Of A Fourth “Star Trek”
 

LOL

 

Please God.

It is always so weird when someone shares a Dark Horizons link.

 

I'm amazed they're still around.

post #1363 of 1383

DH has been my go to since high school.  

post #1364 of 1383

DH was my first movie website for news and information.  Then I discovered AICN.  From there, I moved here.  Now, I cycle between here, /Film, and BMD.

post #1365 of 1383

I felt pretty indifferent about Star Trek Beyond.  It's not bad, like Into Darkness (which even that had its fun moments), it's just sort of there. 

post #1366 of 1383

Let it go out on a relative high note.

 

Return ST to the small screen, please.

post #1367 of 1383

I failt to see how Paramount thinks this is some sort of blockbuster franchise.  It doesn't make enough money.  Trek really needs to be on the small screen.  I would say with the ocassional companion movie that isn't a teenager's distraction for an afternoon... but TOS and TNG were the only casts worth seeing on a large screen.  Just keep it on the small screen... that said Strek Trek Discovery seems like a disaster waiting in the wings.  Sigh.  What has become of my glorious Trek?

post #1368 of 1383
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that said Strek Trek Discovery seems like a disaster waiting in the wings.  Sigh.  What has become of my glorious Trek?

 

I fear you are correct.  I'm just not feeling DISCOVERY at all.  I hope I'm wrong.

post #1369 of 1383
Paramount kept the film rights so it's not like they have any other option than to sit on it. Trek films should only be mid-budget range, that's how most of the pre-nuTrek was able to be moneymakers. Giving them Transformer level high budgets doesn't guarantee that these films will reach other tentpole franchises.
post #1370 of 1383

Trek has always had a limited fanbase.  Mountain Dew'ing it up doesn't work.  I honestly wish they would just let Ronald D. Moore loose on a new show, cast it really well and hope they gel for possible big screen excursions.  Lower budget of course.

post #1371 of 1383
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Trek has always had a limited fanbase.  Mountain Dew'ing it up doesn't work.  I honestly wish they would just let Ronald D. Moore loose on a new show, cast it really well and hope they gel for possible big screen excursions.  Lower budget of course.

 

Or work in tandem with CBS: plan out some rough arcs for a few seasons, have a theatrical release as the punctuation mark or climax of a storyline from the show. Something like the X-Files did with their first film.

 

Ambler's right: Trek never has been and never will be Star Wars or Harry Potter in terms of appeal and size of the fanbase. And that's OK. Paramount should stop trying to force the issue.

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post #1373 of 1383
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Or work in tandem with CBS: plan out some rough arcs for a few seasons, have a theatrical release as the punctuation mark or climax of a storyline from the show. Something like the X-Files did with their first film.

Ambler's right: Trek never has been and never will be Star Wars or Harry Potter in terms of appeal and size of the fanbase. And that's OK. Paramount should stop trying to force the issue.

But they make a billion dollars a film! There's only so many hookers and coke out there!
post #1374 of 1383
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post #1375 of 1383
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I fear you are correct.  I'm just not feeling DISCOVERY at all.  I hope I'm wrong.

I'm just not seeing Discovery at all, but that has more to do with this hideous trend of subscription streaming services proliferating the way cable channels used to. I'm a lifelong Trek fan, but this doesn't have a chance with me, because I'm not subscribing to another damn video streamer.
post #1376 of 1383
I love the subscription base thing because it's far cheaper than having to pay for cable. If I want Netflix, I don't have subscribe to a bunch of other shit I'll likely never watch. The sooner cable companies realize that and start adopting to selective subscription, the better they're off. All I need is wifi service and my own choice of streaming sites.
post #1377 of 1383
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I love the subscription base thing because it's far cheaper than having to pay for cable. If I want Netflix, I don't have subscribe to a bunch of other shit I'll likely never watch. The sooner cable companies realize that and start adopting to selective subscription, the better they're off. All I need is wifi service and my own choice of streaming sites.

 

That cable companies have not already moved to an a la carte model is baffling. I fucking hate that a lot of my cable bill is devoted to helping them pay for the rights for 50 sports channels I will never, ever watch.

post #1378 of 1383
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That cable companies have not already moved to an a la carte model is baffling. I fucking hate that a lot of my cable bill is devoted to helping them pay for the rights for 50 sports channels I will never, ever watch.
Amazon Video lets you subscribe to premium channels on a monthly basis. I'll subscribe for a month of HBO or whatever when there's something I want to see.

I suspect more channels will move to that model in the future.
post #1379 of 1383

Unfortunately, I'm locked into a contract with my cable company for another 18 months or so. When that's done, though, I'm cutting the cable entirely. Will get an antenna for watching the big 4 via local channels, and everything else will be through subscription streaming services. Hell, I'll likely just have Amazon, Netflix, and HBO. Between them and the library, I'll be able to watch just about anything I want.

post #1380 of 1383

I like how Amazon does it, and Hulu, where you can basically pay a little extra a month to add the premium cable to your usual subscription. 

post #1381 of 1383

I finally saw BEYOND on a plane last week and enjoyed it. As a bonus, we hit turbulence during the Enterprise destruction sequence which was fun/terrifying.

 

Unrelated, but Malin Akerman was on my flight. She seemed nice.

post #1382 of 1383
WTF? You turn left on a plane?
post #1383 of 1383
Beyond?

It's fine.
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