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post #1 of 133
Thread Starter 

I didn't even know this was in the pipeline....

 

Our First Look at Amazon's Reboot of The Tick

 

post #2 of 133

Yipes. 

 

I don't understand why they want to make this property happen in live action.  The cartoon was killer, do more of that with modern sensibilities.

post #3 of 133

The original Tick stuff kind of passed me by but I wouldn't mind seeing at least one episode just for Peter Serafinowicz. 

 

I hope that costume looks better in motion, though! 

post #4 of 133
I watched the original animation and the German dubbed version back in the day.

I feel that Patrick Warburton was as close of a live action version to the animation one. Pretty much a meathead trapped in a beefcake body. We haven 't seen Peter Serafinowicz in action and i know he does a wide range of impressions, dialects etc. but based on that pic i really don't see him as The Tick.
post #5 of 133

Just checked, was surprised to learn Serafinowicz is actually a couple of inches taller than Warburton (6'5'' vs. 6'3''). That said, he definitely doesn't have that hulking lunkhead quality, so very curious to see if he can sell it with the performance. That costume though...yipes indeed.

post #6 of 133

 

I just read that Wally Pfister is directing this? Transcendence really knocked him down LA's visual entertainment ladder, didn't it? From The Dark Knight.... to Amazon's The Tick.

post #7 of 133
Thread Starter 

ummm....it's only 2 short clips but....man, I don't know about this....

 

The Tick exclusive clips: See the hero back in action

post #8 of 133

I'll admit that "Enough! Enough with your hot little bullets!" made me chuckle.

 

I actually quite like the look of this. Well, other than the costume.

post #9 of 133

IGN seems to like it, for whatever that's worth.

 

 

post #10 of 133
No.

Just...no.
post #11 of 133
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No.

Just...no.

 

I have a feeling my ignorance of this character and the past incarnations is probably going to help me out a lot here.

post #12 of 133

Arg. Dammit. I just cannot get past that damn headpiece. I can deal with the extreme texture, but fuck if I won't be staring at that damn cowl with great disgust. I'll still check this out considering most of everyone involved, but it's going to take quite a bit to sell me.

post #13 of 133

I actually quite liked this. It takes a little while to get going - which is what you'd expect from a typical pilot - but it kept me engaged, made me smile a few times, and made me want to check out episode two once it had finished. I haven't seen the other incarnations of this (which might prove to be a benefit) and so I don't know if Arthur's story is told the same way in those, but I definitely enjoyed his flashback sequence which featured a wonderful cameo by Jackie Earle Hayley.

 

Will have to check out the Jean Claude Van Damme show next!  


Edited by MrSaxon - 8/19/16 at 10:49am
post #14 of 133
I was a fan of the comic, and cartoon but not so much the Fox live action. This one played up the total cluelessness of the Tick, but yeah that suits is pretty bad.
post #15 of 133

It's odd because The Terror looked really good. But, yeah, the costume designer should be shot.

post #16 of 133
Peter Serafinowicz? Is he the trucker from I'M ALAN PARTRIDGE who likes Dr. Pepper?
post #17 of 133

Yup.

post #18 of 133

And was the voice of Darth Maul...

post #19 of 133
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And was the voice of Darth Maul...

 

 

... and Darth Vader, and Obi Wan, and C3-P0, and everyone else...

 

post #20 of 133

Haven't seen the episode yet, but I like the clips, and I'm all in for Serafinowicz. As long as it's funny I don't give a rat's ass about the costume.

post #21 of 133

Finished it myself. Casting is fine, and it was funny enough. The ADR and CG were unbelievably rough, but I have to be a bit forgiving since it is a pilot. And if this makes it to series, I pray they bite the bullet and re-do The Tick's costume. I'm in for more...for now.

post #22 of 133

The first clip really left me cold. It's just weird to see The Tick shot like Daredevil.

 

It could be interesting, but I have a feeling the episodes not directed by Wally Pfister would be better.

Also, the article features this quote from Edlund that I kinda hate:
 

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“It’s a tremendous balancing act because it had to have stakes, it had to have blood, it had to have certain things that are part of the living language of superheroes in the popular culture today,” he tells EW.

Huh? It had to have "stakes" and "blood"? The fuck does that even mean?

People loved the show for its toooooooooone, why is that something you would change?

post #23 of 133
Thread Starter 
I just watched the pilot...I don't think I laughed once.
Now I liked the cartoon and thought the previous tv incarnation was amusing but this one was missing the 'wacky' aspect of those previous versions.
It needs some more absurdity, IMO.
post #24 of 133

Phft come on, no laugh at, "The Dodgers moved to Brooklyn... the Flagg Five were blinded by weaponized syphilis and shot in the heads"?!?

 

Really?

 

Well, I enjoyed it. It's hard not to picture and especially hear the old cartoon Tick n Arthur, but I'd happily watch Edlund wade back into these waters* again.

 

* = OF DESTINY!!!

post #25 of 133
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it's an amusing line but timing/delivery is everything.

They seem to be taking the story too 'seriously'...and as mentioned, we already have Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and soon -Luke Cage for all our serious superhero tv.

Brooklyn 99 comes to mind when it comes to having a serious/silly balance.
post #26 of 133
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The first clip really left me cold. It's just weird to see The Tick shot like Daredevil.

It could be interesting, but I have a feeling the episodes not directed by Wally Pfister would be better.


Also, the article features this quote from Edlund that I kinda hate:

 
Huh? It had to have "stakes" and "blood"? The fuck does that even mean?


People loved the show for its toooooooooone, why is that something you would change?

Yup. Those clips, while fairly funny, are made to look like every other superhero tv show. It just doesn't really fit with the silliness of The Tick.
post #27 of 133
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/tick-exclusive-ben-edlund-new-amazon-pilot/

As much as i want to believe Ben Edlund saying in the interview that he wanted a total reboot all along i feel that all those rewrites served only to get greenlighted and appease the big wigs but in doing so it lost its uniqueness of the concept in the process.

Save for some clips, i haven't seen it. Some things felt "off" for me. Maybe if i see it in context it plays better?!
post #28 of 133

As much as I respect Ben Edlund, this is a creatively misguided and languidly paced bore. I realize fans are desperate for more Tick and are tying themselves in knots to find positive things to say, but this is not the spoon they're looking for.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 8/21/16 at 8:32am
post #29 of 133

~ The fight in the alley was fun. the board in the face was funny schtick, with no flinching of the actor (did they CGI the board in later?)  the comment to the thug who fired at him and got hit by the ricochet 'that one's on you..'.

~Tick's walk thru the apartment was directed poorly--compare it to the original scene, he twists off a coat hook thinking it was a switch for a hidden room--in the original it was in close up and you caught the joke, in this one it was across the apartment and swallowed up quickly with movement and re-direction.

~ the Arthur costume was great. A little PC that he's not got a beer belly like the other versions. I like the actor and he seems to have a grasp on the material.

~ I like how  Serafinowitz, and Warburton before him (and whoever did the cartoon series voice) had positively giddy  glee to his voice sometimes. Max Headroom did that too.

~the costume has to go. It's gotta be the smooth no-seam book/cartoon/orig.TV  costume. Sure, the new outfit is segmented, ya know like an insect, big deal. I liked the whole face Warburton look as it gave the actor the expressive use of his eyes and eyebrow/forehead. If they could afford to do the white eyes comic/cartoon version they could CGI the eyes to make them move, like the new Spidey does. The antennI move too, just not as comicly (or even visably). And Peter doesn't have the chin of Patrick.

Is it too late to offer Patrick Warburton more money to come back? This was just a pilot, remember. . .

post #30 of 133

Warburton is actually one of the co-producers so he's technically already "back" - just not in front of the camera. I assume there's a reason for that.

post #31 of 133

In the interview, Edlund said that Amazon didn't want the series to be directly connected to the failed FOX version, so Warburton agreed to step aside. 

 

It is a bummer, since he is -so- perfect for the role.

post #32 of 133
Yeah, this was oddly paced and leant too far to "serious" for my liking. What laughs there were all came from Serafinowicz and his fantastic Tick voice and delivery that sounded almost exactly like the cartoon to me. I've only seen him in bit parts before, so I didn't know he had such facility with voices, but I thought he was dead - on despite the pretty awful costume.

For that reason, I hope they do a full season and manage to do a course correction, because his performance deserves better. I also liked Arthur ' s costume, and Jackie Earl Haley as the Terror-- I swear I somehow didn't recognize him at all and my wife had to tell me it was him. But his flashback with the Flag Five was the only other thing I laughed at.
post #33 of 133

There are more laughs in any random minute of the animated series than this entire pilot.

post #34 of 133

I'd rather this get a full series order than Jean Claude Van Johnson. I was left wanting more of this world, while JCVJ felt more like a sketch stretched to TV episode length, and I don't see what more they can do with it.

post #35 of 133

You were left wanting more of the world as portrayed in the pilot?


Edited by Barry Woodward - 8/21/16 at 8:12am
post #36 of 133

Yeah, me too. I'd definitely like to see the outskirts of this universe and what other superheroes are out there. The fact that Edlund has been talking about how this series would be more serialised than previous incarnations, and that he'd explore the consequences of The Tick being an indestructible idiot who leaps before he looks, could lead to some interesting episodes later down the road. I think Edlund deserves ten episodes to show us.

post #37 of 133

Sure, interesting and funny things could be done with the basic premise, but did this episode actually do anything exceptional with it?

post #38 of 133

Well, yes. We had a scene where four superheroes get infected by syphilis and shot in the head by a villain chasing them in a giant flying T, after all. It was a thirty minute pilot that had to set up the world, the main characters and the premise going forward. They only had so much time, which is why future episodes would be able to expand on it.

post #39 of 133

The syphilis thing isn't enough to set this apart. The animated series did bizarre things like that all the time, as do shows like THE VENTURE BROS. and RICK AND MORTY. You say the pilot only had thirty minutes to set up the world, characters and premise, but I think it squandered it's time. The pacing was abysmal. So much more could have been packed into that time.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 8/21/16 at 9:17am
post #40 of 133
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The syphilis thing isn't enough to set this apart. The animated series did hilariously bizarre things like that all the time, and are you not familiar with THE VENTURE BROS. or RICK AND MORTY. 

 

Yes, I'm familiar with those animated shows, but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Live action shows and animated shows are different for a whole bunch of reasons, including the fact that, with the latter, you're not limited by budget when it comes to extraordinary comedy sequences. 

 

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You say the pilot only had thirty minutes to set up the world, characters and premise, but I think it squandered it's time. The pacing was abysmal. So much more could have been packed into that time.

 

I'm not so sure that it could have. They chose to focus on Arthur as the audience surrogate into this weird world and I think they pulled it off well. We went straight from setting up that the universe of The Tick was full of superheroes, to Arthur investigating the possible return of The Terror, to the introduction of The Tick, to Arthur's background and information on who The Terror actually was, and finally The Tick and Arthur joining together. If they had packed any more into the pilot, it would have probably felt cluttered. 

 

The pacing seemed fine to me but, hey, different horses for different courses, as they say. 

post #41 of 133

I've been a fan of The Tick since the original comic (even had issue two with the rare cutout box prior to a house fire) and have watched the animated and live action series. I can state without hesitation that I enjoyed everything about this pilot... EXCEPT for The Tick himself. Mostly the costume and body type - The Tick should be much bigger than Pete. He needs to be the size of Brock Lesnar. At least foam up the bodysuit like Warburtons' version!
 

Between this and the Van Damme pilot (only two I watched), this one is the clear winner IMHO. 

post #42 of 133
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Live action shows and animated shows are different for a whole bunch of reasons, including the fact that, with the latter, you're not limited by budget when it comes to extraordinary comedy sequences.

 

The fact that I only mentioned animated shows distracted from my point, which was that goofy throwaways like the syphilis bit aren't unique enough in the TV world (animated or live action) to make up for the mediocre whole. Shows like 30 Rock, Arrested Development, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Community and Spaced are packed with extraordinary comedy sequences.

 

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I'm not so sure that it could have. They chose to focus on Arthur as the audience surrogate into this weird world and I think they pulled it off well. We went straight from setting up that the universe of The Tick was full of superheroes, to Arthur investigating the possible return of The Terror, to the introduction of The Tick, to Arthur's background and information on who The Terror actually was, and finally The Tick and Arthur joining together. If they had packed any more into the pilot, it would have probably felt cluttered. 

 

I'm not talking about more plot points, I'm talking about pacing and comedy. The pilot established the world and premise quite efficiently in the first few minutes and then slowed to a crawl during Arthur's introduction, which was played too serious for my tastes. Having a straight man in a comedy is fine, but many of his scenes felt like they were from a completely different show.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 8/21/16 at 6:36am
post #43 of 133

Again, it was a pilot. Try watching the first episode of something like 30 Rock and see if they're as "comically dense" as later episodes in the series.

 

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree, Barry. You didn't find it funny whereas I found it amusing, so we're probably never going to see eye-to-eye on this one. Comedy's subjective, after all.

post #44 of 133

nice intelligent exchange here guys.

Ultimately it's a 'test' show that would be tweaked if ok'd for a series (geez, I hope), so maybe things can homogenize later.

 

 

I'm gonna now watch the tv series and animated series. again.

 

In doing an image search I found a frame from the live action series

 


Ron Perlman.

 

Anyone else here see the British TV series called NO HEROICS ..?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Heroics

set in a bar for superheroes to come in and chill in a neutral location. Wicked dark humor

and good actors playing interesting characters.

post #45 of 133

Ha, I remember No Heroics. Shame it only had a few episodes.

 

I was watching a Youtube video on the history of The Tick as a character and they mentioned how uncomfortable Warburton's costume was. The poor guy literally sweated buckets for that show.

post #46 of 133
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The original Tick stuff kind of passed me by

 

It's never too late to fix that. Get those DVDs and binge the animated series. I'd be interested to see what you think.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 8/21/16 at 8:18am
post #47 of 133
I'm another guy who read the comics back on day one. I have a Tick Fan Club button somewhere.

I like this.

It has a sense of the dread and skewed perspective that the first dozen or so comics had. It treats the Tick as someone dangerously filled with conviction and perilously unselfaware.

I love the cartoon as well, but it was its own animal set in a slightly fluffier, more absurdist universe.

I think it helps that I did not enjoy the Warburton version. I could see where they were going for but it all seemed like a joke-writing exercise akin to a sitcom but with no narrative weight.
post #48 of 133

Yikes. This felt like an uncomfortable hybrid of The Tick and Super, resulting in a sub-par version of both. The weaponized syphilis thing was kind of darkly humorous over the radio, but the actual scene was morbid to the point of just being off-putting, which combined with the po-faced Arthur storyline managed to pretty much overshadow the admittedly fun...what, two or three minutes with Serafinowicz? Who despite REALLY not fitting the part visually (he looks like somebody's Dad dressed up in an awful Tick knock-off costume) has the voice and mannerism's down pat. It just felt awkward, like they wanted to be a Daredevil spoof but didn't want to give up the kitsch costumes and shots at goofy comic tropes from the older series. If they wanted to take things more serious, I wish they'd gone all the way, Netflix Marvel style serious but left the Tick as this out of place engine of destruction in an otherwise "real" world. Or make it fun. Just not this weird middle ground.  Knowing Arthur is the POV character sort of leaves me pessimistic for the long haul, but I'd be willing to give it another crack with some good word of mouth.

post #49 of 133

"I basically had been in an ongoing battle with them going through many drafts of The Tick script. I had to go through, like, seven very different drafts. Each one, I was ready to burn at a certain point, and then I forgave it for existing. Each became like a step — the seven footprints of Satan — on the way to the thing that we have now, that I think is relatively justifiable as a piece. I got the structure down. In a way, it's something that could've or almost should've been done by somebody else. Like I'm the old guy and then some young buck is supposed to come in and go, "Oh fuck all that shit, here's what I want to do with this." I had to be that person for my own satisfaction and not try to do anything that's been done before. Really try to find the voice of today and the voice of a TV form that is stretching away from its broadcast history and finding a different way of expressing this story, making it the most important story ever told." - Ben Edlund

post #50 of 133
I think if going sort of "grim n' gritty" were part of the gag, as some kind of commentary on the "this ain't yo daddy's" school of franchise reboots, then there could be a lot of comedy to be mined there. They seem to want to be genuine about it though, which clashes with the comic book self awareness that the Tick has usually provided.

It could be fixed... I seem to remember there has been quite a lot of lead time between Amazon pilots, and the series when they've been ordered. And Saxon's right that comedy pilots in particular are notorious for being lousy, even when they've gone on to being great shows. So again, even though you could say it doesn't deserve it based on what we've seen, I at least want to see a series get a chance to right the ship.

I wonder what they are planning to give us for supporting heroes if it gets that far. Another take on American Maid/Liberty and Die Fledermaus/Batmanuel?
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