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post #251 of 274
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Originally Posted by CD Underbelly View Post
 

So... after the Defenders comes and goes, instead of second seasons each of Luke Cage and Iron First, how about just do Heroes for Hire?  I mean, its right there waiting to happen.  They surely have to at least be considering it.

 

They seemed to be hinting at it pretty hard with the "this place doesn't want to be a barbershop anymore" line. Also, if you like the CW shows (to each their own) I can definitely see the back half of this going down smoother. 

post #252 of 274

This show is getting... Stupid.

 

"Why doesn't he have a grudge against your father?"

 

"It doesn't matter."

 

Me - "Ummm, nope!  It totally does!"

post #253 of 274
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This show is getting... Stupid.

 

"Why doesn't he have a grudge against your father?"

 

"It doesn't matter."

 

Me - "Ummm, nope!  It totally does!"


I took that as an attempt at being clever and trying to sidestep the fact that they'd painted Luke's family life as painfully stereotypical.  His father was a philandering preacher?  Hmmmmm.  That, and trying to avoid Luke's life and existence being defined by his father.  Or something.

 

But yes, it felt like we were building up to a "Special Guest Star" moment with Luke Cage's father (Does Richard Roundtree still do any acting?) but then...not.

post #254 of 274
It was just such a "a good question... For another time." Line. If you're not going to address this stuff don't rub my nose in his littls you care.
post #255 of 274
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Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post

 

But yes, it felt like we were building up to a "Special Guest Star" moment with Luke Cage's father (Does Richard Roundtree still do any acting?) but then...not.

 

I really wouldn't be shocked if Reg E. Cathey got the call for the role in a later season.

post #256 of 274
God, misty walking into an office without checking her corners, and then being shot by a dangerous man despite knowing how dangerous he is and him LITERALLY having both hands behind his back... She deserves to lose an arm, I'm sorry honey.

Also, Willis is maybe the worst marvel villain along with malekith. His backstory is such a spectre rip off/desperate attempt to give a villain gravity. The role is acted cartoonishly and the quoting of the bible is such silly attempts at pathos. To make him the head big bad everyone is afraid of makes the relatively serious nature of the opening episodes moot.

Cottonmouth is the real memorable villain. He had a charismatic performance that was subtle and layered and interesting. They just should have given him the diamondback stuff they wanted like framing luke or the power glove, and save diamond back for the future when he can be better realized.

They Mythologize diamondback so hard I expected a performance like james earl Jones in fences. Something mean and powerful and amazing, like cotton mouths mama in the few scenes we get to know her.
post #257 of 274

The villain order was seriously messed up in this, much to the show's detriment. The bug-eyed psycho should have been the opening villain followed by the better written, acted, and much more interesting Cottonmouth.

post #258 of 274
Yeah, have to agree about the villains. Coulter was great, but overall it was a step down from JESSICA JONES, DAREDEVIL'S first season.
post #259 of 274
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The villain order was seriously messed up in this, much to the show's detriment. The bug-eyed psycho should have been the opening villain followed by the better written, acted, and much more interesting Cottonmouth.

Exactly this. The crazy moron thug who doesn't think and doesn't have a plan should have been knocked out by Luke by episode 3 or 4, which is where we finally introduce the more elusive big bad, Cottonmouth.
post #260 of 274
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post

God, misty walking into an office without checking her corners, and then being shot by a dangerous man despite knowing how dangerous he is and him LITERALLY having both hands behind his back... She deserves to lose an arm, I'm sorry honey.

Also, Willis is maybe the worst marvel villain along with malekith. His backstory is such a spectre rip off/desperate attempt to give a villain gravity. The role is acted cartoonishly and the quoting of the bible is such silly attempts at pathos. To make him the head big bad everyone is afraid of makes the relatively serious nature of the opening episodes moot.

Cottonmouth is the real memorable villain. He had a charismatic performance that was subtle and layered and interesting. They just should have given him the diamondback stuff they wanted like framing luke or the power glove, and save diamond back for the future when he can be better realized.

They Mythologize diamondback so hard I expected a performance like james earl Jones in fences. Something mean and powerful and amazing, like cotton mouths mama in the few scenes we get to know her.

 

I didn't get pathos from Diamondback's bible verses.  More like "Yep, he's fuckin' bugnuts."

post #261 of 274
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I didn't get pathos from Diamondback's bible verses.  More like "Yep, he's fuckin' bugnuts."

 

It was still cliche as fuck for that purpose.

post #262 of 274

The worst thing about Diamondback is that they didn't kill him off. He can still come back! Eeeeeek.

post #263 of 274

I stood up and cheered when Shades killed the thugs trying to off him.

 

Killed by moron goons is NO way for the only villain I still like in this show to get killed off.

post #264 of 274

Diamondback's supersuit...

 

post #265 of 274

Why are both villains named after snakes anyway? Are they more snake-like in the comics? If so, leaving that aspect out of their live action versions make both names utterly pointless.  

post #266 of 274
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Diamondback's supersuit...

 

 

What are you talking about? That was a great suit. On par with Iron Man and Black Panther's suits. Easily.

post #267 of 274
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Why are both villains named after snakes anyway? Are they more snake-like in the comics? If so, leaving that aspect out of their live action versions make both names utterly pointless.  

 

I believe they were both members of the Serpent Society in the comics. 

post #268 of 274
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When you look at what teenagers can knock up for Comic-Con that costume was absolutely mental.

 

What I don't get is, if they knew their budget was $11.12 why even pretend to have a suit? Just have him subject himself to an experiment. Yeah it's just The Incredible Hulk again but at least you save yourself some embarrassment. Having said that,that fight was pretty irredeemable, costume or no costume.

 

Highlight of the show, and a scene I keep watching, is Cottonmouth watching Jidenna perform "Long Live the Chief". Mahershala Ali does so much in that scene, just staring and bobbing to the music. We also get Claire roughing up the would be mugger in that scene. All down hill from there.

post #269 of 274
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Originally Posted by Mike's Pants View Post

 

Highlight of the show, and a scene I keep watching, is Cottonmouth watching Jidenna perform "Long Live the Chief". Mahershala Ali does so much in that scene, just staring and bobbing to the music. We also get Claire roughing up the would be mugger in that scene. All down hill from there.

 

That montage set to that song is definitely a season highlight.

post #270 of 274
Man, Diamondback's monologues are so fucking dull. Somebody put him in a room with Jax Teller. They can work out their daddy issues and bore each other to death.
post #271 of 274

He is not his brother's keeper, and wants everyone to know it! 

post #272 of 274
Hahahahahaha Diamondback's costume.

...............
post #273 of 274
It's the plastic mask that really destroys it. I know it's a homage to his comics costume, but come on. The mask isn't even from the comics, they added it like they thought that was genius!
post #274 of 274
My favorite dumb moment had to be when he came up to that cop, said "I'm luke Cage." Then killed him with a punch, making his previous sentence to frame luke totally moot. Then he just kind of mutters "I'm luke cage!" To the crowd as he runs off and the people are like... No you're not I can see you.

That being said I did enjoy the final fight being in the street and people cheering them on, and how things wrapped up.

It's a shame the show was so stupid at the end, because it really could have been something special. The moment of Carl and young Willis boxing was nice and all, but clearly completely invented and setup at the last second JUST for that scene. We couldn't see them interact and sense their relationship and brotherhood before that?? Then when you jump to modern day stupid power rangers villain Willis acts NOTHING like the reasonable teen we saw before.
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