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post #201 of 475
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My only problem with that con is that he's not robbing the bank, he's robbing the people trying to make deposits. Which is shitty.

 

In the book, he goes to another branch of the same bank and deposits SOME of the money into the users' accounts using the deposit slips he had them fill out.  That way it looks like the bank fucked up and processed the deposits wrong, so the people likely have a chance of the bank correcting the error.

post #202 of 475
Not to nitpic - but if you walk into a bank and rob it at gunpoint you are still stealing from the innocent victims who put their money there just as if you collected it outside during a freak snowstorm.
post #203 of 475
Well, more the bank's insurance.
post #204 of 475

Yep, it goes against the FDIC insurance up to the bank's limit.

post #205 of 475
It's a victimless crime!

Apart from those whose premiums have to increase to maintain the insurer's margin and share price, or the employees who don't get a pay rise, or the pension funds whose dividends fall.
post #206 of 475

But isn't that true in this scam as well? I would think having someone robbing customers on bank property and using bank property (the after hours deposit boxes) would lead it to being considered a bank robbery as well. 

 

I mean, with all my experience of these things...which is to say, none.

post #207 of 475

I never got the impression we were supposed to look at this as some light breezy caper with no repercussions for the victims anyway, so I'm not sure why we're worried about it.  

post #208 of 475

We're not. Maybe we're just being grouchy.

 

You gents generally have good taste so I am wondering whether I ought to give this another go. The last episode was a real slog though, the immigrant stories aside, and the information and plot is not only being drip fed but it also feels like it's being done very obliquely. It isn't grabbing me, and a story like the one I understand this is should be firmly in the centre of my Venn diagram of narrative entertainment pleasure.

post #209 of 475

If you read my posts, I'm almost there with you, jhp. The asides are becoming (have become?) more compelling than the main story. The stylistic choices seem wholly disconnected from what's being depicted. The main story is moving forward at pretty much a snail's pace.

 

I'm in it for the rest of this season since it's not very long, but unless something changes, I'm likely out after.

post #210 of 475

I was warming up to Widdle's performance as Shadow already, but his muttering that of course he likes marshmallows officially sold me. Dude's great.

post #211 of 475
He's built like a brick shit house and he can act ... surprised he's been off the radar. I don't watch the 100, but even that was after he turned 30.
post #212 of 475

Thanks to Starz dropping these at midnight, I've seen this week's ep. No spoilers, but easily the best episode thus far. For once, the entire hour is used for forwarding the story (in the sense that the storyline we see conveys more info in one hour than the previous three).  Emily Browning knocks it out of the park; I take back my doubts about her acting chops. 

 

It's telling that this episode was absent most of the stylistic flourishes of the first three. The episode was better for their lack. 

post #213 of 475

I don't want Emily Browning kicking me in the nuts........like, ever.

post #214 of 475
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It's telling that this episode was absent most of the stylistic flourishes of the first three. The episode was better for their lack. 

 

I thought this had TONS of flourishes.  The clever fake-out opening, the dying fly, the fight in the rain, the way Laura would see Shadow...  This thing oozed style.

post #215 of 475

To reply to my previous post and your comments there-after ... I can truly say with no sarcasm, kudo's to you that you know what is going on. It's not a joke, i have no idea what it is I am watching here.

post #216 of 475
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It's telling that this episode was absent most of the stylistic flourishes of the first three. The episode was better for their lack. 

 

I thought this had TONS of flourishes.  The clever fake-out opening, the dying fly, the fight in the rain, the way Laura would see Shadow...  This thing oozed style.

 

Let me restate. This episode did have style but this time it felt like it was purposeful and served the episode. And I'm thinking specifically of the high def, slo mo closes ups that have been ubiquitous thus far (but not in Ep 4) that seem only to serve a "this is a cool shot" purpose, rather than anything else.

 

I wasn't saying "Git Gone" was flat or without flare. It just felt like the story was finally king, and style was the subject, instead of the reverse.

post #217 of 475

So those were obviously Odin's ravens, but the question is were they just watching or was there a supernatural nudge to the accident?

post #218 of 475
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

So those were obviously Odin's ravens, but the question is were they just watching or was there a supernatural nudge to the accident?

 

Yep, Hugin and Munin. Caught that, too. I think it was a little from column A, a little from column B.

post #219 of 475
Hunin and Mugin...thought and memory.

Anyways, what a fantastic episode. Highlighted by Laura kicking that dude (or whatever) in the crotch followed by his spine/skull/skeleton exploding out of him.

I always wept it was so fantastically wonderful.
post #220 of 475

Wow... that was this show hitting it's stride. If that's what they can pull off with this show, I'm sold.

post #221 of 475

This was my least favorite of the season so far, even if I did get two laughs during the episode; once at Laura telling Anuibis to go fuck himself before being flung back into her grave, and then at Laura pissing embalming fluid whilst her friend freaked out opposite her.

 
It just seemed like a real step back for me; giving this previously unknown character an hour to essentially tell us what we largely already knew. It probably didn't help that Laura is one of the most apathetic and (with the exception of the moment she introduces Shadow to the plan for robbing her casino) reactive characters I've come across in some time. I guess that's the point (it takes her death to really wake her up), or maybe it's a comment on bored Millenials who drift through life without any true passion, but following a character like that feels a bit of a slog when you've got another storyline on hold involving old Gods fighting new Gods and Ian McShane being a crafty bastard.  
post #222 of 475
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...when you've got another storyline on hold involving old Gods fighting new Gods and Ian McShane being a crafty bastard.  

 

Except that's hardly been in evidence. The "main" storyline has proceeded very slowly and to little effect so far. This episode covered more narrative ground than the previous three.

 

During the episode I kept wondering why the show hadn't opened with this: not only to minimize flashbacks, but because IMNSHO it's such a strong intro to this universe. At the same time, Laura's encounter with Anubis wouldn't've had the power it did if we hadn't previously seen a death gone "right" with him.

post #223 of 475
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This episode covered more narrative ground than the previous three.

 

How so? I learned that Shadow's wife died with a cock in her mouth and came back to (un)life thanks to one of Mad Sweeney's magic coins, and that Anubis likes to turn up and weigh your heart against a feather. I learned all of that in the previous episodes. 

post #224 of 475
Wasn't this the first episode that explained Laura's role in the heist? Shadow refusing to let her take responsibility says a lot about his character.
post #225 of 475

Sure, but I'm not really convinced it was worth putting everything else on hold for an entire episode. 

post #226 of 475

I'm seeing a lot of people writing off Laura as "awful" and "apathetic" without taking into account the fact that she's dealing with crippling depression without any kind of help whatsoever.  If anything, I think we needed this episode to give more to her character than "cheating whore who got what she deserved."

post #227 of 475
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How so? I learned that Shadow's wife died with a cock in her mouth and came back to (un)life thanks to one of Mad Sweeney's magic coins, and that Anubis likes to turn up and weigh your heart against a feather. I learned all of that in the previous episodes. 

 

More actual events were depicted, from Shadow and Laura meeting all the way to Shadow and Laura meeting. We covered, literally, years in a single hour.

 

The preceding three hours have covered, as far as I can tell, a few days. And given us far less information on what's going on than this episode gave us regarding Laura and Shadow.

 

Plus no high def slo mo shots of a cigarette. Wins all around.

post #228 of 475

I think too many people are reacting with, "This ended right where last week's episode ended, what a waste of time!"  Well, sure, if you're solely worried about where the plot is going, but if that's the case, go read a synopsis.

post #229 of 475
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Sure, but I'm not really convinced it was worth putting everything else on hold for an entire episode. 
They could have condensed this material into 20 minutes and been fine and still told the same story. Nothing was bad but Its only 8 episodes. This would be fine in a 16-22 ep season but not 8.

I feel bad for Emily for having to kiss Dane Cook. For a show that has incredible actors why cast him?
post #230 of 475
A show isn't just about the story, though.

I thought this was a standout episode; it took a while to build, but it was meaningful time spent.
post #231 of 475
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post

They could have condensed this material into 20 minutes and been fine and still told the same story. 


By that thinking, they could've condensed what we've seen of the main story into about 10-15 minutes. Because it's sure moving a fuck of a lot slower than this week's episode.

post #232 of 475
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By that thinking, they could've condensed what we've seen of the main story into about 10-15 minutes. Because it's sure moving a fuck of a lot slower than this week's episode.
There is some truth to that.

Of the 4 Bryan Fuller series I've watched - Wonderfalls, Pushing Daisies, Hannibal, and American Gods-this show by far is the weakest. It's not a bad show it just seems they are holding off on revealing things to Shadow for no reason what so ever. I don't care if that's how it happened in the book of some of the things he's seen happen he should be a bit more WTF and demand answers. Faceless men attack him and it's like it's no big deal.

I know some of y'all love the show-that's great. But it seems like any criticism brought up isn't valid to those that are loving it.
post #233 of 475

Hey, let's talk about how the first season of Hannibal and portions of Dead Like Me also go on side quests. Let's not pretend like this is new to Fuller. 

post #234 of 475
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I feel bad for Emily for having to kiss Dane Cook. For a show that has incredible actors why cast him?

He played a POS who slept with his best friend's wife while his best friend was in prison.

 

He gets his pecker bitten off and dies in a car crash.

 

It's a fine role for him.

post #235 of 475
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He played a POS who slept with his best friend's wife while his best friend was in prison.

 

He gets his pecker bitten off and dies in a car crash.

 

It's a fine role for him.


Don't forget that he gets buried with his own pecker shoved up his posterior.  So yeah...I don't really see any issue with the casting....

post #236 of 475
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Nothing was bad but Its only 8 episodes. This would be fine in a 16-22 ep season but not 8.

 

I'm kinda here too.

 

Liking the show, but with only eight episodes it seems like by the time we get to the real "meat" of the show the season will be over.

post #237 of 475
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Hey, let's talk about how the first season of Hannibal and portions of Dead Like Me also go on side quests. Let's not pretend like this is new to Fuller. 
Hannibal also had characters I cared about.
post #238 of 475
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Hannibal also had characters I cared about.

 

Awesome. Wow. 

post #239 of 475
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

Awesome. Wow. 
Fuck you too. Sorry I'm not in love with the show like you
post #240 of 475

Worth a Fuck You, you think?

post #241 of 475
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Fuck you too. Sorry I'm not in love with the show like you

 

Anyawatching: King of the Massive Overreaction since 2002!

post #242 of 475
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Worth a Fuck You, you think?
When someone is being a dismissive prick then yes.
post #243 of 475
Thread Starter 

Hannibal was pretty much a slightly more stylish police procedural for most of its first season. It only really became Hannibal in its back half and truly becomes a great show by Season 2. People never mention that. 

 

I don't get these complaints of its languid pace in all honesty. I keep going to Game of Thrones which, after 4 episodes had also not really moved all that quickly. This isn't a traditional story in case that hasn't been clear yet. So if you're not interested in a stylish, well-made meditation on the influence multiple different cultures have had on the American landscape/psyche as told through a roadtrip urban fantasy parable well...there's the door. 

post #244 of 475
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So if you're not interested in a stylish, well-made meditation on the influence multiple different cultures have had on the American landscape/psyche as told through a roadtrip urban fantasy parable well...there's the door. 

 

post #245 of 475

Pendleton was the bomb in that.

post #246 of 475

We all miss David Bowie.

 

post #247 of 475
There's a sound effects cue in this episode that made me applaud with glee.
Edited by Richard Dickson - 5/28/17 at 3:56pm
post #248 of 475

Mr. World's intro is almost completely different, but the writing and Glover's performance make it one of the most tense moments of the series. Loved it.

 

You'll never know how much you wanted to hear a Crispin Glover monologue about salsa and globalization until tonight.

post #249 of 475
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

There's a sound effects cue in this episode that made me applaud with glee.

Is it the Wilhelm? It's the Wilhelm isn't it?
post #250 of 475
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Is it the Wilhelm? It's the Wilhelm isn't it?

Nope. Keep an ear open during Technical Boy's first appearance tonight.
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