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post #151 of 1308
Funnily enough, she doesn't fit in this movie at all.

I still enjoyed her goofy arch performance though. All that shimmy-shimmying while spouting doom! How cute!
post #152 of 1308
If we lifted her wholesale from SS and dropped her into GB. Not only would she fit, she'd be another thing that rips off the orignal. "She's clearly just Zuul."
post #153 of 1308
She's clearly just Zuul/Gozer here anyway!
post #154 of 1308
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If we lifted her wholesale from SS and dropped her into GB. Not only would she fit, she'd be another thing that rips off the orignal. "She's clearly just Zuul."

Which they've announced they plan to do in the never going to happen Ghostbusters 2 anyway.  If villains are graded on their look, personality, and evil plan, Enchantress gets a 1 out of 3 for look and Rowan gets a 0 out of 3.

post #155 of 1308
I liked Enchantress a lot. But really all I wanted from her was to be ultra-powerful and completely mercurial. I love her different forms, that headdress covered in moving eyes was the tits. I even love the constant gyrating. That dang-dong portal is the only thing that sucks with her. If she would have just had a cooler plan with her bro.
post #156 of 1308
Enchantress shimmy shimmy was quite creepy.

I did like that the South American millenia old sorceress had a posh British accent.
post #157 of 1308

Creepy?  I thought it was hilarious!  Can you imagine the behind the scenes footage of Cara shimmy shamming in a skin tight suit with no effects?

post #158 of 1308
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Delevigne kinda has a reputation for acting ridiculous and not giving a shit, so I ate it up. I liked how upset she would be every time she turned to June.
post #159 of 1308
I thought it was a nice touch. Like, there was so much power coursing through her body at that point, that she couldn't control it.
post #160 of 1308

They weren't kidding around when they said Katanna was completely useless in this. The film was pretty badly edited as well.

 

I "kinda" had fun with this. The casting of Will Smith and Margot Robbie were a big help in that.

post #161 of 1308

It's a shame because her introduction shot made her look SOOOO cool.  I remember thinking "oh she's going to do cool shit with that magic sword..."

 

But she didn't really.  It was just a normal sword and a relatively normal lady.  The most boring ninja ever.  

post #162 of 1308

Her crying to her Sword was so hilariously WTF to the audience. I looked around and they seemed puzzled by what was happening.

post #163 of 1308

I like to think Flagg actually has no idea about her sword and he's just inventing for everyone what he assumes must be her backstory.  

post #164 of 1308

I swear the collatorel damage in this film must beat The Avengers.

 

A Zombie City. An entire Aircraft Carrier blasted to shit. I pity the poor citizens of the DC Cinematic Universe.

post #165 of 1308
Oh god are we going to start bitching about collateral damage again?

Won't someone think of the cgi children?!!
post #166 of 1308

Hey, i don't care about it. Just noted what was happening.

 

I enjoyed this better than BVS or Man of Steel. Generally its the strong casting that makes it work (Not Jared Leto though). 

post #167 of 1308

It seems like many people acknowledged the problems with this movie, and yet they like SS anyway. Is it because of the cast or specifically Margot Robbie?

post #168 of 1308

Will Smith for me.

post #169 of 1308

I guess Hawkman doesn't exist in the DCU at all?  I think he lived in Midway City.  

post #170 of 1308

WARNER BROS AND DC ENTERTAINMENT INVITE YOU (yes, you) TO....

 

THE MOST MEDIOCRE MOVE OF THE YEAR!

 

 

SEE THE JOKER REBORN!

As Jared Leto playing Jared Leto with a sore throat! I can't imagine this being anybody's favorite Joker. I always think the mark of a great actor is when I stop thinking "That's (insert actor's name)!" and start seeing the character instead. Every scene featuring The Joker caused me to just think "Oh, it's Jared Leto trying to act all kooky". God, I miss Heath Ledger.

 

WITNESS WILL SMITH SUCCEED!

As his sheer charisma turns Deadshot into an actual person and makes you wish that you were watching DEADSHOT: THE MOVIE instead! No, seriously. Smith was awesome here, and the true MVP of this movie. (For the record, Viola Davis is a close second.)

 

OBSERVE AMAZING FEATS!

Such as the scene where Harley jumps into an elevator and is already half way up the building before anyone notices but...., when she gets to the top, the entire squad is already there waiting for her. Oh and then there's the bit where Captain Boomerang gets the perfect ending (him scarpering as soon as he's given permission is both in-character and amusing)... only to re-appear in the next scene out of nowhere. The editing in this movie is amazing.

 

BEHOLD STATE OF THE ART CGI!

From the year 1998. Seriously, The Enchantress' brother....

 

 

GAPE AT THE INCREDIBLE CAMERA WORK!

Which can apparently only hold two people in a frame at one time! Oh, man - that final battle where The Enchantress is teleporting around trying to stab them? What the fuck was going on there?! Close up - quick cut - close up - quick cut - close up - quick cut. The bar scene in this movie (where nobody even drinks if I'm remembering correctly) is amazing simply because it actually featured four people in one camera shot.

 

MARVEL AT CARLA DELEVIGNE'S ACTING POWERS!

Or rather... lack of. I really liked the initial look of her character where she was all shadowy and spectral, but then they turned her into "Carla Delevigne In Her Underwear". At the point where she started using an English accent and making strange gurning faces, I simply stared in horror at what I was seeing. 

 

GAZE UPON RICK FLAGG!

Because he gets more screen time than the guy who is a fucking cannibal crocodile and Captain Boomerang, who was (for me) the funniest thing in this movie and Jai Courtney's best performance since he was born. Probably. I've not seen all of Jai Courtney's performances because that would be fucking insane. Still, at least boring Rick Flagg gets lots of boring time in front of the camera, because he's totes in love with Enchantress and that pays off at the end..... oh, wait. No, it really doesn't. 

 

OH AND HARLEY QUINN IS IN THIS!

Margot Robbie is good here. Hell, I'd even say she's great. But the script does her no favors. There's a scene late in the movie (and, if you're reading this but haven't seen the movie and intend to - I'd suggest stopping RIGHT NOW) where she calls out to The Enchantress to bring her beloved Joker back to life; agreeing to damn all of humanity for just one more day with her puddin'. I nodded my head at this point because that's totally what Harley would do. The Joker is EVERYTHING to her and she would easily - oh wait. That's NOT what she does. Apparently the people she's spent a few hours with are worth more to her, and so she stabs The Enchantress instead. Fuck.

 

 

I neither like, nor dislike this movie. It's better than BvS, simply because it got an emotional reaction out of me (the scene where Deadshot is about to shoot Batman but his daughter steps in the way), it kept me engaged at a basic level and I'll probably watch it again at some point.

 

But, my God, is this movie broken to fuck.

post #171 of 1308

That scene in the Trailer where Harley asks everyone what they'll have in the bar. Gone.

post #172 of 1308

Yeah, such a strange thing to cut when it featured the squad bonding. They barely talk to each other throughout the entire movie.

post #173 of 1308

Just got back from this. Deeply unsatisfying. Mostly it became the Will Smith show, which was one of the things I feared when the lineup was announced.

 

Got no sense that the Squad formed any attachment to each other by the time the bar scene happened, so the teaming up to beat the bad guys at the end didn't really work.

 

I went into it having read the Hollywood Reporter article about the editing, so perhaps I was looking out for it, but good lord it was bad... which was a shame as there were some cool things happening but it didn't felt like it stitched together and a lot of it was just incoherent. No better or smarter than any of the Transformers flicks for me, this one.

post #174 of 1308

So the general consensus here seems to be...

 

- The Editing Sucks

 

- Jai Courtney wasn't completely terrible in this

 

- Most of the characters are a complete waste of screen time

 

- The villain does not fit in at all

- It was fun watching Will Smith play Will Smith

- The Joker shouldn't have even been in this and Jared Leto is absolutely terrible in the role

 

- Script is half-baked

- No memorable action sequences at all

 

- It's not Batman Versus Superman

 

- I was mostly bored watching this for the most part but I liked it!

 

Am I getting it right? I mean, to use a really terrible analogy let's say you order a bacon cheeseburger (say you order it at a place that's really well known for having great burgers) and the waiter finally brings you your order and the bread is stale, the tomatoes are soggy, the patty itself is tough, overcooked and full of gristle, but they used really high quality cheddar on that thing and the bacon was cooked to perfection, but overall it's shit so you toss is in the garbage. Would you still say you enjoyed your experience at that restaurant and recommend it to your friends?

I mean from what I'm reading here it sounds like the movie is hot garbage but on the way out you found a garbage bag full of pieces of burgers that guests couldn't finish at that restaurant, and you don't know where they had been or what was in them or why you were eating them in the first place, but they had some kind of fungus growing on them and it got you high.

post #175 of 1308
Mediocrity is the status quo.
post #176 of 1308

I hate people who use analogies; especially when those analogies involve food. They're like those menus in restaurants which use try to use fancy exciting names for their offerings but, once the plate arrives, you realize you just ordered fried egg on white toasted bread again. 

post #177 of 1308
All I'll say is that you can basically see Will Smith's script notes.
post #178 of 1308

That's the beauty of following BVS. Suddenly your movie seems much better by comparison.

post #179 of 1308
People who've worked in the fast food industry, like me, know food analogies are apt!
post #180 of 1308
Bitch peas. I donut understand why you guys are bacon my heart with your shitty food analogies. You're kiwing me you peaches of shit. Your a real pizza work. It's like you don't even carrot all. Just beet it.

I know puns are not analogies and I'm blurring the limes a bit, but it's ok cause I'm kind of a big dill. Anyway olive you guys.
post #181 of 1308
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Mediocrity is the status quo.
There's a thriving market for mediocrity.

When the original INDEPENDENCE DAY seems like a model of cinematic competence, it's time to pack it in and call it a day.
post #182 of 1308
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  While I was let down by the movie, I didn't hate it. My problem is the trailers made me think I was going to see an irreverent comic book movie meets The Dirty Dozen and what I got was a slightly below average action flick. The Squad themselves are good, they just deserve to have a better movie around them.

 If one wants to see an irreverent comic book movie, go see Deadpool. 

Just got out of the movie--I think I agree with this, though I'm in the "mostly liked this" camp. SS wears its flaws on its sleeves, but I found a lot to like about it.

Basically, I wouldn't mind a sequel.
post #183 of 1308
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It seems like many people acknowledged the problems with this movie, and yet they like SS anyway. Is it because of the cast or specifically Margot Robbie?

This might shock you, but it's totes okay to like a movie also acknowledging that it had issues.

It's called not being an asshole.
post #184 of 1308
Yeah like me!
post #185 of 1308
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All I'll say is that you can basically see Will Smith's script notes.

Oh, definitely. What's more, his reading of the "my daughter's gonna know her Daddy's not a piece of shit" line had me wondering where this side of Smith has been all these years.

There's an alternate universe where we're all talking about how Smith salvaged every moment of the Independence Day sequel when he was on the screen.
post #186 of 1308
Also: that AVclub article is pretty bad.
post #187 of 1308
I'm very much looking forward to Bright now, with an engaged Will.
post #188 of 1308
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Will Suicide Squad take a Suicide Dive after opening weekend? We wait with baited breath!

You have a habit of shit-posting. You did it in the Ghostbusters thread and now you're doing it here. If you see it, you're welcome to pop in and talk all the shit you want, but until that happens, I'm going to need you to stay out of the post-release for this and whatever other movie draws your ire sight unseen. That's not a request.
post #189 of 1308
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I'm very much looking forward to Bright now, with an engaged Will.

And an engaged Ayer. I've understood Netflix isn't the kind of studio that gives lots of notes and micro-manages everything. They just want you to make a film people can't see anywhere else.
post #190 of 1308
Yes. I hope Bright works out.

And I will be curious to see if there's a DC of this film and how substantially it changes the film.
post #191 of 1308

Suicide Squad got a B+ cinemascore, so it'll probably have better legs than BVS. It may be a not great film overall but it has enough crowd pleasing moments to keep it rolling through the next few weeks. Plus its all that anyone's talking about movie wise. 

post #192 of 1308
No one cares about "The Founder," a movie about a real-life supervillain.
post #193 of 1308

It was bad. Not horrible, but definitely not good. There's a better movie hiding under the terrible music cues and editing. That first 20 minutes is the perfect example of how not to dump exposition.

post #194 of 1308
All that exposition just makes me want to watch CON AIR.
post #195 of 1308
Exposition was just horrible.

I'm still on the fence about Leto's Joker. I did like the meta gag about him not shaking hands though.
post #196 of 1308

I loved that moment where out of nowhere (aside from the character's name) we get Captain Boomerang doing recon using a special boomerang with a camera he can view through his SMARTPHONE APP.

 

I was sad that the WITCH-BROTHER didn't have a line where he notices this thing and goes, "WHAT IS THAT, A BOOMERANG????  PEW PEW PEW!"

post #197 of 1308
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Originally Posted by Andy Bain View Post

Exposition was just horrible.

I'm still on the fence about Leto's Joker. I did like the meta gag about him not shaking hands though.


I'm noticing a huge trend about people mentioning the Joker... they're not!

 

So, what is it about him that's turning you off?

post #198 of 1308
I actually liked Leto-Joker in this. I'm not convinced that this will be DC's go to version of the character when it's time for him to go toe-to-toe with Bats, but I had fun with him. He's grimey and sleazy in a way that totally fits with this film's aesthetic.
post #199 of 1308
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I actually liked Leto-Joker in this. I'm not convinced that this will be DC's go to version of the character when it's time for him to go toe-to-toe with Bats, but I had fun with him. He's grimey and sleazy in a way that totally fits with this film's aesthetic.

 

How do you think they'll change him up?

 

Can they even do that at the same time as they're trying to set up a consistent universe across these films?

post #200 of 1308

I can't tell if I was actually creeped out by the character work or if it was just me being creeped out by Leto himself and the behind-the-scenes stories.

 

If it was anyone else, I think I would've just found the performance reeking of effort and really annoying.   Like some creep breathing really hard on you while close-talking.

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