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I got to see this at a local AMC today.  As far as I know, it's definitely the first Korean zombie movie I've ever seen... and perhaps it's because of that novelty that all the well worn zombie movie tropes felt fresh to me.

 

OR... it's also because TRAIN TO BUSAN is an incredibly well executed genre movie!

 

The zombies in this are of the Snydawn of the Dead/World War Z type.  They're super-ragey and climb over each other to build structures of their bodies.  They turn fast and contort their body in fun ways.  

 

It's also a bit THE HOST as well as SNOWPIERCER (not just because of trains and Korea, but also because of the blatant class/morality commentary peppered through the film).

 

There's really not much more I can say about the film that wouldn't be redundant (it is very true to zombie movie tropes) or wouldn't reveal the film's smaller surprises and pleasures.  I really enjoyed the supporting cast and found the filmmaking to be smart and very effective.  It escalates the situations really well and always manages to avoid becoming too repetitive... at least until the end when it really stretches out the finale for one climax after another that eventually leads to a super melodramatic finale (it is a Korean movie, after all).

 

I was really pleased with this.  If you find it playing anywhere near you, I'd highly recommend it.

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I got to see this at a local AMC today.  As far as I know, it's definitely the first Korean zombie movie I've ever seen... and perhaps it's because of that novelty that all the well worn zombie movie tropes felt fresh to me.

 

OR... it's also because TRAIN TO BUSAN is an incredibly well executed genre movie!

 

The zombies in this are of the Snydawn of the Dead/World War Z type.  They're super-ragey and climb over each other to build structures of their bodies.  They turn fast and contort their body in fun ways.  

 

It's also a bit THE HOST as well as SNOWPIERCER (not just because of trains and Korea, but also because of the blatant class/morality commentary peppered through the film).

 

There's really not much more I can say about the film that wouldn't be redundant (it is very true to zombie movie tropes) or wouldn't reveal the film's smaller surprises and pleasures.  I really enjoyed the supporting cast and found the filmmaking to be smart and very effective.  It escalates the situations really well and always manages to avoid becoming too repetitive... at least until the end when it really stretches out the finale for one climax after another that eventually leads to a super melodramatic finale (it is a Korean movie, after all).

 

I was really pleased with this.  If you find it playing anywhere near you, I'd highly recommend it.

 

I have taken many a train to Busan. The KTX is fantastic. 

 

I was wondering what this film was about when I first saw the poster because it was an image not much bigger than a thumbnail and I didn't follow it up until right now when I saw your post.

 

Thank you nooj!

 

Zombies *and* a South Korean movie?

 

Sold and sold!

post #3 of 65

 

Yes.

 

 

OH YEAH.

 

 

 

I am so there. I'm still cross that I missed The Wailing in our cinemas here by one week because I wasn't in Sydney at the time and returned just a bit too late.

 

You've done God's work here today, nooj.

post #4 of 65

That does look pretty damn good.

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That does look pretty damn good.

 

They're the best trains, too. The KTX trains are really fast, a smooth journey and first class experience all around. I have no doubt that even with the zombies, South Korean rail service would still be better than most other countries. 

post #6 of 65

Catching this tonight...Better not be disappointed, Nooj.

post #7 of 65
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you'd better not!

 

Also, I caught one of this director's previous films, THE KING OF PIGS.  BUSAN is actually his first live-action film.  He'd directed animated films before and oooooooh-weeee, THE KING OF PIGS is some twisted stuff.  BUSAN is so much more audience-friendly.  

post #8 of 65
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yes of course

 

http://variety.com/2016/film/asia/sony-fox-seeking-remake-train-to-busan-1201828399/

 

"We realized that our country has trains too!  We are PASSIONATE about remaking this story!"

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yes of course

 

http://variety.com/2016/film/asia/sony-fox-seeking-remake-train-to-busan-1201828399/

 

"We realized that our country has trains too!  We are PASSIONATE about remaking this story!"

 

I think it might be worth it even if was a train in the US as long as it still had to get to Busan.

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yes of course

 

http://variety.com/2016/film/asia/sony-fox-seeking-remake-train-to-busan-1201828399/

 

"We realized that our country has trains too!  We are PASSIONATE about remaking this story!"

 

Who researched that Variety article anyway? Of course, the French have something very similar to the KTX, they're the ones who sold the first high-speed trains based on their own TGV/LGV system to the South Koreans in the first place.

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you'd better not!

 

Also, I caught one of this director's previous films, THE KING OF PIGS.  BUSAN is actually his first live-action film.  He'd directed animated films before and oooooooh-weeee, THE KING OF PIGS is some twisted stuff.  BUSAN is so much more audience-friendly.  

 

King of Pigs is great, but I can see how a hyper-zombie film is easier to chew on. 

post #12 of 65
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very populist!

 

no animal cruelty!

post #13 of 65
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I got to see this at a local AMC today.  As far as I know, it's definitely the first Korean zombie movie I've ever seen... and perhaps it's because of that novelty that all the well worn zombie movie tropes felt fresh to me.

 

OR... it's also because TRAIN TO BUSAN is an incredibly well executed genre movie!

 

The zombies in this are of the Snydawn of the Dead/World War Z type.  They're super-ragey and climb over each other to build structures of their bodies.  They turn fast and contort their body in fun ways.  

 

It's also a bit THE HOST as well as SNOWPIERCER (not just because of trains and Korea, but also because of the blatant class/morality commentary peppered through the film).

 

There's really not much more I can say about the film that wouldn't be redundant (it is very true to zombie movie tropes) or wouldn't reveal the film's smaller surprises and pleasures.  I really enjoyed the supporting cast and found the filmmaking to be smart and very effective.  It escalates the situations really well and always manages to avoid becoming too repetitive... at least until the end when it really stretches out the finale for one climax after another that eventually leads to a super melodramatic finale (it is a Korean movie, after all).

 

I was really pleased with this.  If you find it playing anywhere near you, I'd highly recommend it.

 

I forgot to say, when I do see this film (hopefully next week), it won't be the first South Korean zombie film I've seen.

post #14 of 65
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Yeah, in reading about this film, I've seen it mentioned that there have been a few Korean movies featuring zombies prior to this.

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Yeah, in reading about this film, I've seen it mentioned that there have been a few Korean movies featuring zombies prior to this.

Yeah. I think there was an anthology movie called Doomsday book, and its first part dealt with a zombie apocalypse.
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Yeah. I think there was an anthology movie called Doomsday book, and its first part dealt with a zombie apocalypse.

 

Footage from the fast-tracked British Version. Fast-tracked so fast, it went backwards  in time.

 

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Yeah. I think there was an anthology movie called Doomsday book, and its first part dealt with a zombie apocalypse.

 

This was the one I saw.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_Stories_(film)

 

I wonder if technically it counts given it's just one segment of many?

 

I remember Endless Flight and Ambulance on the Death Zone being good and none of them were dull in the sense that they *really* tried to do something difference. Framing story ended oddly if I recall. I need to see this again as I remember enjoying it overall but I don't remember it as well as I should. 

post #18 of 65
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Yeah. I think there was an anthology movie called Doomsday book, and its first part dealt with a zombie apocalypse.

 

Thanks for the reminder, I'd completely forgotten about this, back on the to-do list for sure.

 

post #19 of 65
Man does that trailer look dope.
post #20 of 65
Busan, that is. And somehow probably only cost $34 US dollars to make.
post #21 of 65
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There actually is an animated film the same director made this year called SEOUL STATION.  I've read that it's a story that covers the lead-up to the zombie apocalypse in BUSAN.  And just from reading the descriptions, I imagine there is one character in that film that makes an appearance in BUSAN.  

 

so... a PREQUEL

 

 


Edited by mcnooj82 - 8/5/16 at 7:15pm
post #22 of 65

I saw snippets of that animation in this:

 

 

Can you assess as to whether this is not too spoiler heavy please nooj? I'd like to think not given it's promo material but then you never know. I didn't think so (I thought it revealed just enough extra material to get me even more interested as if that was needed but you'd know best).

 

Extremely minor maybe spoiler from at or near the start of the film.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Zombie deer. Hell yes!

 

Definitely want to see this animated prequel as well. Keep up the good work nooj!

post #23 of 65
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Depends on how you define SPOILER.

 

I wouldn't want to know any of what this promo piece is showing.  It's showing a lot of setup that I prefer to have the film do itself.  It continues quite a bit past that too.  Probably towards the middle of the film.

 

Hehehe, I was actually a few minutes late to the movie.  So thanks to you, I got to see what the opening was (the thing you put in SPOILER-text).

post #24 of 65
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Depends on how you define SPOILER.

 

I wouldn't want to know any of what this promo piece is showing.  It's showing a lot of setup that I prefer to have the film do itself.  It continues quite a bit past that too.  Probably towards the middle of the film.

 

Hehehe, I was actually a few minutes late to the movie.  So thanks to you, I got to see what the opening was (the thing you put in SPOILER-text).

 

I define Spoiler very conservatively to be on the safe side.

 

You were late? Doesn't sound like you nooj as such a film connoisseur to be *late*.

 

Good think I checked with you then lest I detract from everyone else's experience by accident. At least now they're warned before they click play so they can choose to go ahead or not.

post #25 of 65
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Yeah I hate being late. But the theater was a little further away and I got stuck having to render out some work beforehand.

I missed about 5 minutes or so
post #26 of 65

Found this version of the trailer with English subtitles. Not that you really needed it for what's in this trailer as what's going on is fairly self-evident but I'll let everyone make their own minds up about that. 

 

However, there is one potentially big reveal in the dialogue, though. So be warned!

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This train is no longer running to Busan.

 

 

post #27 of 65

Some overlap but plenty of animated footage from the prequel, both clips have a fair about of material not in the other.

 

 

post #28 of 65
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so... were you disappointed, Sub?

post #29 of 65
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SUB!!!

post #30 of 65
While we are waiting for that, I'll go ahead and predict that this is the thread where khitcher will come out of hibernation to make his annual CHUD appearance.

PS this movie sounds pretty cool.
post #31 of 65

Good film.  You weren't kidding about the melodramatic third act, they poured it on to the point of satire, but I guess that helped pack the theatres in Korea and I still liked it quite a bit.  The social commentary also gets a little heavy there as well, but still, a good time.  A little too family-friendly for me to be a blu-ray pre-order, but it was nice to see Ma Dong-Seok get so much screen time and Choi Woo-Sik is a pretty strong young actor. 

 

I think there was a Running Man episode last year where they, um, ran past the cast of the film.

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Good film.  You weren't kidding about the melodramatic third act, they poured it on to the point of satire, but I guess that helped pack the theatres in Korea and I still liked it quite a bit.  The social commentary also gets a little heavy there as well, but still, a good time.  A little too family-friendly for me to be a blu-ray pre-order, but it was nice to see Ma Dong-Seok get so much screen time and Choi Woo-Sik is a pretty strong young actor. 

 

I think there was a Running Man episode last year where they, um, ran past the cast of the film.

 

Please tell me more about Running Man?

 

I will be seeing this movie most likely on the 11th or 12th.

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Good film.  You weren't kidding about the melodramatic third act, they poured it on to the point of satire, but I guess that helped pack the theatres in Korea and I still liked it quite a bit.  The social commentary also gets a little heavy there as well, but still, a good time.  A little too family-friendly for me to be a blu-ray pre-order, but it was nice to see Ma Dong-Seok get so much screen time and Choi Woo-Sik is a pretty strong young actor. 

 

Ma Dong-Seok was obviously the best character.

post #34 of 65

This opens up in Hong Kong on the 24th. I'm going to double-feature this for the first time and Shin Godzilla again. So excited to see politically charged science-fiction films again! 

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Please tell me more about Running Man?

 

I will be seeing this movie most likely on the 11th or 12th.

 

I just remember an episode from last year where they ran past the cast while they were eating lunch outside, I guess they were taking a break from filming.  They weren't featured on the show or anything.  Unfortunately so many of those episodes on Youtube have now been altered (to avoid copyright issues, I guess) I don't know if its worth looking up.

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Ma Dong-Seok was obviously the best character.


I liked him a lot.  And the two old ladies.  And the conductor. 

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I liked him a lot.  And the two old ladies.  And the conductor. 

hahahaha, the conductor was a professional till the end.

 

And there was a moment between the two old ladies that got me very teary-eyed.  And it had nothing to do with someone dying or whatever.  It was a very specific line mixed with disdain, regret, admiration, and love.  It hit me in a very specific place because it reminded me of my mother and her sisters.  They're not in the movie much, but oh man that leads to such a good moment.

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While we are waiting for that, I'll go ahead and predict that this is the thread where khitcher will come out of hibernation to make his annual CHUD appearance.



PS this movie sounds pretty cool.

 



Master Shigemichi ("Power and Knowledge") - I resurfaced this year to start the OKJA thread and to add my buddy's 6 word review of the latest Godzilla in the Franchise thread. But indeed, you know me too well.

I'm anxious to check this out. I really liked King of Pigs, and it's great to see Ma Dong-Seok get such good notices. Been a huge fan since I first saw him in The Good The Bad The Weird (the part where he knocks the Good out of the train car still cracks me up). If the Hollywood remake ever happens, I hope he's called back to reprise his role as his English is quite good (at least from what I recall from Kim Ki-Duk's One on One), and it would be good to see an Asian dude play a Michael Clark Duncan type.

Bolo Yeung - you are sorely missed.
post #39 of 65
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ISAO!!

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While we are waiting for that, I'll go ahead and predict that this is the thread where khitcher will come out of hibernation to make his annual CHUD appearance.



PS this movie sounds pretty cool.

 



Master Shigemichi ("Power and Knowledge") - I resurfaced this year to start the OKJA thread and to add my buddy's 6 word review of the latest Godzilla in the Franchise thread. But indeed, you know me too well.

I'm anxious to check this out. I really liked King of Pigs, and it's great to see Ma Dong-Seok get such good notices. Been a huge fan since I first saw him in The Good The Bad The Weird (the part where he knocks the Good out of the train car still cracks me up). If the Hollywood remake ever happens, I hope he's called back to reprise his role as his English is quite good (at least from what I recall from Kim Ki-Duk's One on One), and it would be good to see an Asian dude play a Michael Clark Duncan type.

Bolo Yeung - you are sorely missed.

Holy crap, it worked. Good to see you still posting, man! Hope life is treating you well.

Missed that Okja thread, but will check it out post haste. Bong Joon-ho working with a large creature again is really exciting. No Song Kang-ho this time though, sadly.
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Master Shigemichi ("Power and Knowledge") - I resurfaced this year to start the OKJA thread and to add my buddy's 6 word review of the latest Godzilla in the Franchise thread. But indeed, you know me too well.

I'm anxious to check this out. I really liked King of Pigs, and it's great to see Ma Dong-Seok get such good notices. Been a huge fan since I first saw him in The Good The Bad The Weird (the part where he knocks the Good out of the train car still cracks me up). If the Hollywood remake ever happens, I hope he's called back to reprise his role as his English is quite good (at least from what I recall from Kim Ki-Duk's One on One), and it would be good to see an Asian dude play a Michael Clark Duncan type.

Bolo Yeung - you are sorely missed.

 

I've missed your posts big guy.

 

I don't have the access to these films like I used to, I'm so far behind on this stuff it's silly.

 

As an aside, if anyone here is living in the area of Fullerton, California, it is playing in a theater there. I won't have the time to make it, but I thought I would throw it out there.

post #42 of 65
It's very good to see you too gentlemen. That Screwface poster and Alba ass circa 2004 brings back a lot of fond memories.

I might have to go check this out at the CGV Cinemas LA in K-town if it doesn't open soon nearby. I hate their cramped partking structure, but goddamn they got some good flavored popcorn.

Or I can wait until the WellGo Blu-ray streets. Yeah, probably that's more likely.
post #43 of 65
Hard to believe Bolo Yeung's son is now the same age Bolo was at the time of Bloodsport.
post #44 of 65
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Oh man... I just never considered the the fact that Bolo Yeung had children... and that his son would look so much like him!

 

post #45 of 65
"It's not easy to be his son, Fredo...it's not easy."
post #46 of 65
They eat their Wheaties in that family.
post #47 of 65

Just go back from seeing it.

 

Very good.

 

Very good indeed.

 

A number of scenes that looked similar to those from World War Z with one big difference, these were actually done well.

 

After the initial panic which was how I'd imagine things could initially go down, people were on average much more believable than just about any American offering I've seen. Some very clever observations and smart ideas and easily the majority of the 'stupid' things they did were within acceptable tolerances. By that I mean it was pretty much credible reactions and mistakes as things really aren't going to happen like a well-oiled machine in such chaos. 

 

Overall, very well done and I really enjoyed it.

 

Now, I know Daejeon is a major junction where the lines branch off in two major directions, so I'd very much look forward to a side-quel of a train that left just a bit earlier starting with what exactly happened at Daejeon station called "Train to Mok-po" and then a sequel to both called "No Train to Jeju-do" because Jeju-do's an island, that's why it's Jeju-do bitches!

post #48 of 65

Got tickets for a limited showing in Sydney this Sunday.  Am excite!

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Got tickets for a limited showing in Sydney this Sunday.  Am excite!

 

The NZ Natural ...

 

... and yet, you're here? 

 

Interesting.

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https://twitter.com/edgarwright/status/794767561057443841

Shit, and I was in the neighborhood last night too.
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