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post #101 of 134

'Graphics' is kind of an inexact term.

 

What is exceptional here are the animations. There is some high quality stuff being done there, and that's really the area where we are likely to see the most visual gains in video games over the near future.

post #102 of 134

Huh. One of the things that stuck out to me were the animations, which I thought still looked kinda jerky and exagerrated. 

 

Maybe I'm just grumpy today, I got like three hours of sleep last night, and I'm over-compensating with caffeine today. I'll go watch it some more.

post #103 of 134
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They still have time to smooth out the animations. The detail IS amazing. Those environments especially are very, very WOW.

 

Here's a quick blurb by R*

 

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 The story of outlaw Arthur Morgan and the Van der Linde gang as they rob, fight and steal their way across the vast and rugged heart of America in order to survive. Coming Spring 2018 to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One systems.

 

With Dutch there it's definitely a prequel, which suits me since RDR is very much about the death of the Old West so getting it in it's prime is very welcome to me. Odds are young John Marston makes a cameo there as well.

 

"Maybe when your mother is done mourning your father I'll keep her in black, on your behalf" is also a boss line if I'm being honest.

post #104 of 134

Yes, please.

post #105 of 134
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"Maybe when your mother is done mourning your father I'll keep her in black, on your behalf" is also a boss line if I'm being honest.

 

Yeah, that's a good one.  It's up there with this from JUSTIFIED:

 

post #106 of 134

Yup. I'm so in.

post #107 of 134

This is one of those games that makes owning a console worthwhile.

post #108 of 134
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This is one of those games that makes owning a console worthwhile.

 

-strokes PS4-

 

Yeeeeeeees my dear...you're purpose will soon be realized. 

post #109 of 134

I think the graphics in this game look great by the way. I decided to try RDR a few months ago, and I was shocked how poor some of the graphics were (great at the time!) compared to games that have been released recently. I was a little let down by the mechanics -- RDR is a clunkier game than I remember. I put it away. I'll just let it remain a great experience and my favorite game!

post #110 of 134
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I think the graphics in this game look great by the way. I decided to try RDR a few months ago, and I was shocked how poor some of the graphics were (great at the time!) compared to games that have been released recently. I was a little let down by the mechanics -- RDR is a clunkier game than I remember. I put it away. I'll just let it remain a great experience and my favorite game!

 

You didn't enjoy the cow herding missions? 

post #111 of 134
Started replaying RDR recently on PlayStation Now (itsnt that what it's called?). Clunkier than I remembered, and more go fetch quests but still great.
post #112 of 134
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Started replaying RDR recently on PlayStation Now (itsnt that what it's called?). Clunkier than I remembered, and more go fetch quests but still great.

Herd some cows, bitch!
post #113 of 134

I liked the cow herding.

 

It was part of the only sequence with a well-written female character that Rockstar has ever produced.

post #114 of 134
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Herding cattle in the middle of a fuckhuge storm?

 

So good. 

 

The Ranching missions near the end were also fantastic. 

post #115 of 134

So am I the only concerned one around here that a post GTA-online Rockstar/2K is going to turn the sequel to my favorite game of all time into a microtransaction mini-MMO monstrosity at the expense of another stellar single player campaign and sp dlc?

post #116 of 134
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It's a valid concern. I was actually waiting for it to be brought up.

 

Speaking for myself, I'm not really worried based on my experience with GTA5. Out of the hundred + hours I spent in that game I probably spent one in GTA Online. GTA5 had an absolutely fantastic Single Player with probably the best GTA story so far. Sure, single player DLC would have been nice, but it never felt like something that was needed cause the game itself is pretty complete. If they can deliver another experience like that here, with a compelling narrative built around a huge, detailed map I can explore and have fun with at my pleasure, I'll be happy, and gladly ignore the hackneyed bullshit they most definitely will put in the Multiplayer side. 

post #117 of 134
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So am I the only concerned one around here that a post GTA-online Rockstar/2K is going to turn the sequel to my favorite game of all time into a microtransaction mini-MMO monstrosity at the expense of another stellar single player campaign and sp dlc?

 

My concern is that the storytelling advances Rockstar showed in RDR were a fluke. GTA5 was such a lame, nihilistic slog that I couldn't be bothered to play past about the halfway point.

 

RDR still had the terrible side stories, but its main narrative was a real winner for a studio whose only other brush with writing competence came in a game they didn't really make (LA Noire).

 

I have faith that Rockstar will make a fun, huge single player game. I'm merely hopeful that the story connecting everything is worth a damn.

post #118 of 134
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My concern is that the storytelling advances Rockstar showed in RDR were a fluke.

 

Holy shit.  Someone else that finally recognizes that RDR was basically (with the possible exception of Vice City) the only compelling single player narrative Rockstar has ever put together. 


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post #119 of 134
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Y'all are tripping. GTA 5 was great.
post #120 of 134

San Andreas was a pretty good single player campaign. Felt like if the Friday movies were an Action Epic a la Michael Bay.

 

RDR was one of the best video game stories ever though. Definitely in a class all its own. I expect this new one to be a smoother, more technically impressive game (and quite enjoyable in those terms), but I'd be quite surprised if they were able to match that story.

post #121 of 134
I've said this before: I think GTA 4 is a better game (storywise) than people give it credit. The problem with the game is that it also has to be a GTA game. It's a problem that GTA5 similarly has; moreso because it's following a game that many people found "not as fun" as previous GTAs. So it tried to maintain the nihilism of 4 while trying to be as "fun" as San Andreas--and the results are mixed.

Part of the reason why RDR is so damn good is because the game doesn't have to live with the expectations of being a "GTA game," so RDR had a level of freedom that GTA 4 and 5 didn't.
post #122 of 134
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I liked the cow herding.

It was part of the only sequence with a well-written female character that Rockstar has ever produced.

Didn't care for the cow herding, but I loved that character. She was really was well written.
post #123 of 134
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Didn't care for the cow herding, but I loved that character. She was really was well written.

 

I was really disappointed that the game wouldn't let me choose to try to stay with her. Of course, it likely would've ended with a burnt down farm full of corpses, but moments like that are when I wish someone would make a game where the open world concept applied to the narrative a bit as well.

 

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I've said this before: I think GTA 4 is a better game (storywise) than people give it credit. The problem with the game is that it also has to be a GTA game. It's a problem that GTA5 similarly has; moreso because it's following a game that many people found "not as fun" as previous GTAs. So it tried to maintain the nihilism of 4 while trying to be as "fun" as San Andreas--and the results are mixed.

Part of the reason why RDR is so damn good is because the game doesn't have to live with the expectations of being a "GTA game," so RDR had a level of freedom that GTA 4 and 5 didn't.

 

GTA4 was a step forward for sure. It was trying to tell a real story for the first time. It ended up kitchen-sinking itself into a mess of an ending, but I really thought that after GTA4 and RDR, that GTA5 was going to be something special...

 

and it was, in the way the worst diarrhea of your life was something special. 

 

Hateful characters. A threadbare, insipid story. A narrative mean streak that makes me unsure whether the writers hated themselves or us more - whichever it is, I'm certain they're the type of people who watch snuff films for a laugh. I can't recall every playing another game that lacked a single emotional response from me, besides, "Oh, fuck off, game."

 

But RDR2 still gets a preorder. (so would a Bully 2!)

post #124 of 134

I've never played a single GTA game, and I'm fine with that. 

 

If RDR2 is just close to the storytelling and characterizations in RDR, it'll be a win.

post #125 of 134

I think parts of GTA 5 are inspired and I think anything with Lamaar and Franklin is goddamn hilarious.

 

It's just that GTA5 is trying to appease so many people, that it never really knows what it wants to be. GTA4 absolutely is making a point: That the American Dream is a fucked up, shitty thing. The fact that Niko, who came from his home to get away from the violence, gets embroiled in the same violence in America and essentially loses everything at the end is what I love about the game: It has balls.

post #126 of 134
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The fact that Niko, who came from his home to get away from the violence, gets embroiled in the same violence in America and essentially loses everything at the end is what I love about the game: It has balls.

 

It sure has BOWLING BALLS COOOOOOOOUSSSSSIN!

 

Nah but seriously, I'm with you. The plot for GTA4 was so close to being legitimately brilliant for all the reasons you mentioned. I was really pulling for that game. But it was let down in some key areas, specifically the driving which is ASS. 

 

As for GTA 5. What can I say, I love a good crime caper with scumbag gangsters and thieves. Franklin and Lamarr were great. I really enjoyed Michael and his Sopranos esque plot. And I personally think Trevor is brilliant. The typical GTA player embodied in a character that makes narrative sense. I've really been meaning to play through that again but I just haven't found the time. 

post #127 of 134

I hope they go all out on a ranching subgame. Harvest Moon up in this bitch. 

 

Shitty microtransactions underpinning an online mode where you gallop around shooting other assholes, without end? Pass.

 

Shitty microtransactions underpinning an online mode where you BUILD A FUCKING RANCHING EMPIRE AND CAN VISIT OTHER PLAYERS RANCHES?

 

Well, okay then. I got money, Rockstar. Make it worth my while.

 

 

 

GTA game with a fun, pulpy story actually worth a damn? Chinatown Wars. Thats my jam.

post #128 of 134
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I hope they go all out on a ranching subgame. Harvest Moon up in this bitch. 

 

Shitty microtransactions underpinning an online mode where you gallop around shooting other assholes, without end? Pass.

 

Shitty microtransactions underpinning an online mode where you BUILD A FUCKING RANCHING EMPIRE AND CAN VISIT OTHER PLAYERS RANCHES?

 

 

post #129 of 134

You will not be invited to any hoedowns at ZHUKOV RANCH.

post #130 of 134

I wanna be a rancher! Or a sherriff! Or if I have to be a bad guy, at least the boss!

 

One aspect that seems common through all the Rockstar games is that I'm always playing the person I'd least want to be in their world.

 

3rd-rate lackey getting bossed around by losers and psychos? Pass. 

 

Loser/psycho getting bossed around by feds? Pass.

 

Tommy Vercetti, crime lord, porn studio owner, millionaire and gun-toting vigilante? Oh wait, yeah, that was awesome!

 

Basically, I'm saying I want Swearengen: The Game.

post #131 of 134

Will there be blackjack? And hookers?

post #132 of 134
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You will not be invited to any hoedowns at ZHUKOV RANCH.

 

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I wanna be a rancher! Or a sherriff! Or if I have to be a bad guy, at least the boss!

 

One aspect that seems common through all the Rockstar games is that I'm always playing the person I'd least want to be in their world.

 

3rd-rate lackey getting bossed around by losers and psychos? Pass. 

 

Loser/psycho getting bossed around by feds? Pass.

 

Tommy Vercetti, crime lord, porn studio owner, millionaire and gun-toting vigilante? Oh wait, yeah, that was awesome!

 

Basically, I'm saying I want Swearengen: The Game.

 

Holy shit.  You may just pinpointed why I thought Vice City was the only engaging GTA storyline!

post #133 of 134
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Will there be blackjack? And hookers?

 

Yes! Actually, forget the old west part!

 

 

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Holy shit.  You may just pinpointed why I thought Vice City was the only engaging GTA storyline!

 

Well, it's also the only GTA story that seems to know what it wants to be. It's a violent comedy from start to finish, and it's a hoot on those terms.

 

Later games want to be everything: comedy, gritty crime drama, torture porn, etc. Pick a narrative!

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