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post #101 of 697

Looks like January 12th is when we get the rest of the info.

 

 

Learn more about Nintendo’s new home gaming system at the Nintendo Switch Presentation, streamed LIVE on Jan. 12

 

Hopefully I still have $350-400 by then.

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Hey all, we got more Nintendo Switch information for you today.
According to our source at Nintendo, the Nintendo Switch will support memory expansion via Micro SD card much like the New Nintendo 3DS did before it.

Where the New 3DS supported Micro SD up to 2GB and Micro SDHC up to 32GB, the Nintendo Switch development hardware supports Micro SDXC cards up to 128 GB in size. It is currently unclear if this upper limit will be reduced on the retail model, but the development model of the Switch does support running software directly off the Micro SD card as you would off the internal memory or a game cart.

In addition, a source close to the production of the Switch reveal trailer has informed us that the Micro SD slot on the Switch can be located underneath the handheld’s kickstand on the model shown in the reveal trailer.

So, would the ability to slot up to 128GB of additional memory into the Switch on a non proprietary card make the system more appealing? Let us known down in the comments.

I think I'm only at half capacity for my 64gb sd card in the 3DS. Vita is a juggling act with my entire library at 64GB maxed out. 128 gigs could be okay as long as installs aren't ballooned to ridiculous COWADUTY Future Warfare levels.
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And yeah, I think I'm pretty much buying this on launch because it'll be my birthday when it hits store shelves in March-ish.
post #106 of 697

How big is an average WiiU game? That'd probably give a reasonable ballpark figure. 

post #107 of 697
The bigger 3rd party games (Batman/Lego City Undercover) maxed out at 20 Gigs. First party stuff varied between 1.5 - 12 GB of usage. Unless you plan on going all hoard mode I think that could be enough for Splatoon/Mario-Kart/Smash Bros and you'd be set if file sizes were on par with the Wii U.
post #108 of 697

One thing still weirds me out about the 720p handheld resolution (that's been semi-confirmed by Eurogamer). A port of Smash U has been heavily rumoured. That ran at 1080p/60fps on the Wii U, though...there really isn't any room for improvement there.

 

Who would want to buy a downgrade of Smash U on a new system? The only way it wouldn't be a downgrade is if...yup, that brings us back to the dock mode speculation again.

 

Smash Switch has not yet been confirmed, and was not shown in the video. The two ports that were announced in the video, Mario Kart and Splatoon, conveniently enough happen to already be at 720p on the Wii U. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

There are 4 or so possibilities for the dock:

1.It does nothing. The HDMI output just does a standard upscale to the TV resolution.

2.It does nothing, but the Switch main unit on it's own has the power to output a higher resolution when not limited by the 720p portable screen.

3.It allows the Switch main unit to use more voltage/active cooling, and/or run at a higher clock speed.

4.It contains additional GPU hardware.

 

Only 10 more weeks of fun dock speculation until the Jaunary 12th live event.

post #109 of 697

On a drastically reduced screen size, does a downgrade to 720p really matter that much if you want play a game while away from home?

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So that is basically a rant rather than actual valid reasoning.  "I'm making my point! Swear words!".

 

Nintendo knows exactly what people want from mobile gaming.  Nintendo has sold 61 million 3DS units worldwide. It's been out for 5 years.

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The fact that I apparently completely agree with Cracked concerns me more than I can say.

Am I out of touch if this becomes a success? No, it will be because the children are wrong.
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Nintendo knew exactly what people wanted from mobile gaming.

 

FTFY

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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post

FTFY

The "three hour battery life" info is getting a ton of traction on reddit, as it should. That is NOT what people want from mobile gaming.

Was making the mobile screen 720p a mistake? Cut it down to 480p or 544p (the Vita rez) might have extended the batter life by 25 to 30 percent and the difference at more than 3 feet probably wouldn't be visible.
post #115 of 697

Three hours battery life kills the Switch.

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I'm gonna have to call no-way on that one. Nintendo has made some questionable decisions in the past, but even they have to know that would be a non-starter if they want this thing to have any cache as a "portable" system. 

 

On a semi-related note, I just found out this was a thing:

 

 

I know tech gets re-visited and subsequently popularized all the time, but man are the parallels amazing in this case. 

post #117 of 697

The device cannot be charged while being used in kickstand mode.  This doesn't mean you can't charge it while on the go, it just means that because of the placement of the USB charging input you will either have to lay it flat or ... I don't know ... hang it on the wall?  Buy a peripheral that raises it a few inches off the surface it's sitting on? 

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Originally Posted by Splatoon View Post
 

I'm gonna have to call no-way on that one. Nintendo has made some questionable decisions in the past, but even they have to know that would be a non-starter if they want this thing to have any cache as a "portable" system. 

 

On a semi-related note, I just found out this was a thing:

 

 

I know tech gets re-visited and subsequently popularized all the time, but man are the parallels amazing in this case. 

 

Dude, I still have my Sega Nomad in my closet.

 

Why oh why did I ask for that in Christmas 1996. I already had a Genesis, so I could've gotten an SNES or a Playstation.

 

The AA battery pack on the thing lasted 45 minutes.

 

It worked well for what it was, though. You could use an AC adapter, plug it into the TV like a regular Genesis, and plug a controller into the bottom of it.

post #119 of 697

I don't think I can predict whether the Switch will be a success or not. I do think the idea of Nintendos combined console-portable software development teams working on the same system is definitely going to make some stunning games.

 

If they fund a few 2nd-party games (similar to Bayonetta 2, Pokken Tournament, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Lego City U, Hyrule Warriors) that will also be fantastic.

 

That, and they need to ensure they get Monster Hunter 5 as an exclusive.

post #120 of 697

If Nintendo had any compassion in their cold cold hearts, they'd release a few new gameplay videos today to help distract some of us that are in mild shock. I just want to watch Mario jump around for a while, and not think.

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Rumor is Zelda won't make the Switch launch

 

The other thing I've heard the past couple of days is a rumored $250 price.  That and a Zelda launch title would've been a day one purchase, I was kinda getting excited about it. 

 

Obligatory, "I'd rather have it be good that have it now" statement.  But come on Nintendo, get it together.

 

Maybe Nintendo has a secret Mario game or something.  I mean they have to have a game for their new system right?  Or do we just play Skyrim until Zelda comes out?

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Hard to be enthused about a Nintendo hardware launch after they bungled the Mini-Nintendo so badly.  

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Yeah what the hell is this thing gonna launch with, actually??

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad View Post
 

Rumor is Zelda won't make the Switch launch

 

The other thing I've heard the past couple of days is a rumored $250 price.  That and a Zelda launch title would've been a day one purchase, I was kinda getting excited about it. 

 

Obligatory, "I'd rather have it be good that have it now" statement.  But come on Nintendo, get it together.

 

Maybe Nintendo has a secret Mario game or something.  I mean they have to have a game for their new system right?  Or do we just play Skyrim until Zelda comes out?

 

I believe the $250 is the base console with no game.  The bundled game version will be $300.

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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
 

Yeah what the hell is this thing gonna launch with, actually??

 

Super Pilotwings, and Mario Teaches Typing Switch.

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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
 

Yeah what the hell is this thing gonna launch with, actually??

 

The usual.  Flowers, chocolates, promises they don't intend to keep ...

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I WILL PROBABLY BUY THIS.
post #128 of 697
So, there have been a lot of rumors floating around about this thing in the last week:

-it will have two bundles at launch, one basic one that will retail for $200-$250, and one with a larger hard drive and a bundled copy of an updated Splatoon for $250-$300. Splatoon will have a new one on one multiplayer mode and some sort of single player campaign. It will also have an aggressive schedule of free updates and DLC like the first did.

-It will launch with a new 3d Mario more in the vein of Super Mario 64/ Mario Galaxy than 3D World (it will have a hub world with secrets from which you go to the different workds).

-Skyrim remastered will be a launch title.

-A remastered version of Mario Kart 8 will come out in the first 3 months, with new tracks, new characters, and a new battle mode, in addition to all the DLC for the Wii U version being bundled with it.

-Zelda will be out in 2017, but not within 3 months of launch. The Wii U version is essentially done, but it will be held to launch with the Switch version.

- Some Smash Bros. title (unclear if it is a new one or a remaster of Smash 4 - I lean towards the latter) will be out within a year or so of launch.

-Nintendo is developing a new IP to launch within the system's first few months.
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Originally Posted by COULD432 View Post

-Nintendo is developing a new IP to launch within the system's first few months.

 

Finally. Super Toad World. The game I've waited my whole life for.

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-Zelda will be out in 2017, but not within 3 months of launch. The Wii U version is essentially done, but it will be held to launch with the Switch version.

 

 

The new Zelda is the only reason my Wii U is not in permanent storage. I want it now. Now!

post #131 of 697

If anybody wants a Nintendo Switch system pre-order, better get it together for Friday morning. Either hammer F5 on your site of choice, or go to Gamestop at opening time like me. Word on the street is that each Gamestop may only get 20-odd units for launch day.

 

The big presentation is thursay night/friday morning EST, depending on your time zone.

post #132 of 697

Why are Nintendo such dicks about their console releases?

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Hmm...between the potential Game Cube compatibility - I want to replay Rogue Squadron so bad - the updated Mario, Mario Kart and Zelda, and the tablet option for when we need the TV for other uses, this might be my first Nintendo purchase for fifteen years.

Oh, and no silly wand nonsense.
post #134 of 697
I could never make it past the Bespin stage in a Rogue Squadron.
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Buying a console is an investment of time, energy, and money far beyond the initial several hundred dollars you spend.  Given Nintendo's history of 1.)Inane hardware shortages for a myriad of different items, 2.)Promising AAA releases that either never come out, or come out years later on a different system, and 3.)Nintendo's long documented lack of third party support, I'm really having trouble figuring out why anyone would line up for a launch day Switch.

 

Nintendo bungled the release of a sixty dollar microsystem in just about every way imaginable; why would I trust them to know how to handle the launch of an entertainment center piece?  

post #136 of 697

If it releases outside Christmas time where will the urgency be for people to over pay me for it on Ebay?

post #137 of 697

Nintendo seems to put so much effort into INNOVATING they forget the basics.  

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I could never make it past the Bespin stage in a Rogue Squadron.

Was that the level with the Tibanna gas tanks? I don't remember that being a trial. There was a level with ATATs and missile launchers, or maybe Y Wings and missile launchers that had me hurling the controller around my room.
post #139 of 697
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Originally Posted by Overlord View Post

Buying a console is an investment of time, energy, and money far beyond the initial several hundred dollars you spend.  Given Nintendo's history of 1.)Inane hardware shortages for a myriad of different items, 2.)Promising AAA releases that either never come out, or come out years later on a different system, and 3.)Nintendo's long documented lack of third party support, I'm really having trouble figuring out why anyone would line up for a launch day Switch.

Nintendo bungled the release of a sixty dollar microsystem in just about every way imaginable; why would I trust them to know how to handle the launch of an entertainment center piece?  

Your skepticism is noted and appreciated. Does third party support matter if you're only buying it for the Nintendo IPs or exclusives though?
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Your skepticism is noted and appreciated. Does third party support matter if you're only buying it for the Nintendo IPs or exclusives though?

 

Yes, it does.  A system without third party support is going to be a short-lived console with very few first party releases because the install base will be too low to justify properly funding and timely releasing such titles.  A recent example being the Wii U.  Nintendo eventually decided to quietly transfer its own IPs to the NEXT system (that being the Switch) due to low console sales.  A Zelda game on a system with an active install base in the 10 million range couldn't be justified, so all the people who invested in the Wii U hoping for First Party support ended up with far less than expected.  

post #141 of 697
Ah, that seems reasonable. I can't stand those horrible Wii controllers though, and the boys and wife want a Nintendo something fierce. I may take the punt.
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I'm buying the system because I highly value Nintendo first party games. If I want a AAA third party release, I have my Xbone. There really isn't much to think about there.

 

Nintendo hasn't been directly competing with the other big 2 since the Gamecube. If you want the Nintendo games, buy the system. If you don't want the Nintendo games, then don't buy it.

 

On another note, I've never undersstood the box office speculation-esque interest people have in prophesizing Nintendo's doom, or begging for them to go 3rd party. Unless you own a lot of Nintendo shares, it doesn't effect you in any way how much Nintendo makes. They are doing just fine, anyways. And yet, I see people online tying themselves into knots even over stupid shit like the fact that maybe they could have made more money releasing Mario Run as F2P instead of as a real pay-once game.

post #143 of 697

It's kind of annoying having to buy a separate system just for like 5 games. If they go down in flames you can get Mario wherever.

post #144 of 697
But let's be honest: if you are picking up a Switch, you probably already have an Xbone, or a PS4, or a PC. So third party support isn't really that important because if you are picking up a Switch--then you're probably buying one "only" for new Mario or new Zelda or whatever quirky first party game will be on the console.

And yeah Kyle Reese is right. Nintendo is going to be fine, and considering that the Switch seems more like a successor to the 3ds than the Wii U, I think it's going to do better than the Wii U.
post #145 of 697
It's sad that Nintendo has done absolutely nothing over the past 20 years to convince me that this won't be a failure. N64 was the last console I bought from them and nothing they've done since then has proven to me that they can wear their big boy pants.

This thing is going to be Wii U bad. I predict Nintendo will stop supporting this thing in 3-4 years and stick solely to mobile/retro console gaming.

Wow that was depressing.
post #146 of 697
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post
 

I'm buying the system because I highly value Nintendo first party games. If I want a AAA third party release, I have my Xbone. There really isn't much to think about there.

 

Yeah ... and a non-successful launch means fewer Nintendo games. 

 

I think people are annoyed with Nintendo and interested with the success/failure of this newest console for a variety of reasons.  

 

1.)They want a Nintendo product but hardware manufacturing idiocy makes it difficult or impossible, and this has bred morbid curiosity and/or ill-will towards the company

 

2.)They want Nintendo to make smart choices that leads to Nintendo success so that Nintendo has the budget and ability to make more games, or

 

3.)They are irritated about Nintendo exclusively tying its IP to its own systems and believe consumers would be better off if Nintendo got out of the hardware business and began releasing games on other systems.  

post #147 of 697

The 3DS is very successful. Handhelds is Nintendo's niche, and they should have just started marketing the Switch as a handheld from the start, which they kind of did but not successfully.

 

The price tag is expected to be low (in the $200-$250 range), which puts it in the same price point as the 3DS, anyway. So if they change people's way of thinking towards the Switch being the successor to the 3DS instead of the successor to the Wii-U (because any association with that failure is just a bad idea) and push it hard as being a way for people to play the new Zelda and games like Skyrim anywhere... fuck, that would be a slam dunk. Throw in backwards compatibility with the 3DS and sport a solid battery life, and I'm sold. I play the shit out of my 3DS.

 

Being able to plug it in and play on your TV should just be a bonus feature.

post #148 of 697

I really don't know how they can sell the Switch at a price point of 250.00.  I have to admit, I fully expected 375+.

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Here's the article I'm pulling reference from.

 

If this thing retails for more than $350, it's dead in the water.

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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post
 

Here's the article I'm pulling reference from.

 

If this thing retails for more than $350, it's dead in the water.

Agreed.

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