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2020: Hurry the Fuck Up

post #1 of 175
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Just getting this started as we will be needing it, one way or another, in a few weeks.  

 

Will God Emperor Trump's reign be continuing, or will it be Teflon Hillary fighting on?  Time will tell.  

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I'll probably vote in this.
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Cake and grief counseling will be available at the end of the thread.
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I'll probably vote in this.

 

...the question is: will you be allowed to?

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Edited by Agentsands77 - 11/9/16 at 7:57am
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Damn you all

 

Young fool.  Only now, at the end, do you understand.  

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If my little sister thinks I'm gonna act as tribute in her place she is gonna be in for a shock. Bitch better start ramping up her cardio.

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Bahaha.

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If Trump does win next week, at least it will guarantee a 2020 Democrat win. There's no way he doesn't fuck it up.

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If Trump does win next week, at least it will guarantee a 2020 Democrat win. There's no way he doesn't fuck it up.

 

I also think there's no way he runs for a second term.  What will he be?  75?  

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If Trump does win next week, at least it will guarantee a 2020 Democrat win. There's no way he doesn't fuck it up.

 

This presupposes that there will be an America around in 2020....which, with a Trump presidency, is a 50/50 proposition.

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50/50? No way. I'd set "No America" at -160 and "America Intact" at +180. That could change if "No America" has to go on short rest.

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If my little sister thinks I'm gonna act as tribute in her place she is gonna be in for a shock. Bitch better start ramping up her cardio.

Take my rep. Take it.
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To quote a wise man...

 

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No.

 

Just... No.  Please save this thread for at least November 3, 2012.  No one could have predicted Obama would be the Democratic nominee, let alone the President, on November 3, 2004.

 

This is pointless.

 

This was posted in the ORIGINAL 2016 election thread, started 9 months before the actual 2012 elections.  So, I applaud that we waited until 7 days out, but...can we at least wait until next Wednesday, after we have theoretically elected someone the president for 2016- 2020?

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If Trump does win next week, at least it will guarantee a 2020 Democrat win. There's no way he doesn't fuck it up.

"Fuck it up"!!! If he wins, there won't be a world in 2020.


L
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This thread is a sick joke. You all should be ashamed.

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This thread is a sick joke. You all should be ashamed.

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To quote a wise man...

 

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Originally Posted by Spook View Post
 

No.

 

Just... No.  Please save this thread for at least November 3, 2012.  No one could have predicted Obama would be the Democratic nominee, let alone the President, on November 3, 2004.

 

This is pointless.

 

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Discuss.

post #21 of 175

closer to the truth?

 

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Overlord, you're a terrible creature for starting this thread. Damn you.
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Overlord, you're a terrible creature for starting this thread. Damn you.

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God damn it.
post #27 of 175

So... Gavin Newsom then?

post #28 of 175

Master/Blaster 2020

 

WHO RUN BARTERTOWN? 

post #29 of 175

Okay No Baby Boomers this time.  Warren and Biden are too old.  No Michelle Obama.

 

Gen Xer:  Gavin Newsom, Tammy Duckworth, or Corey Booker (Who is too Wall Street) fill the need.  What about Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook? Milennial worth about 10 times as much as Trump. He Would be in his Late 30's in 2020 

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At 70 years old, hard to imagine it won't be one term for Donald. 

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At 70 years old and with the baggage his likely policies will bring, it's going to be one term for Donald.

Given how effective voter suppression turned out to be, I'm not so sure.
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At 70 years old, hard to imagine it won't be one term for Donald. 
Oh, it will be one term...it will just last for 15yrs
This is after Trump signs an executive order dismissing congress and instilling the everlasting Trump lineage, of course.
post #33 of 175
This is going to be bad. It's going to be scary. It's going to be violent. However, Republicans will pay for this in two years and pay again two years after that. Will it be a revolution? Doubtful, but buyer's remorse is a real thing and a useful thing.
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This is going to be bad. It's going to be scary. It's going to be violent. However, Republicans will pay for this in two years and pay again two years after that. Will it be a revolution? Doubtful, but buyer's remorse is a real thing and a useful thing.

This...1000x this
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I see Elizabeth Warren being the one who gets the big push in 2020.  She's a second chance at electing a viable female candidate and she lacks the baggage that Hillary Clinton had (we hope, anyways).

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I see Elizabeth Warren being the one who gets the big push in 2020.  She's a second chance at electing a viable female candidate and she lacks the baggage that Hillary Clinton had (we hope, anyways).


At this point, I'm pretty sure Nikki Haley is more likely to be our first female President than Elizabeth Warren.

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This is going to be bad. It's going to be scary. It's going to be violent. However, Republicans will pay for this in two years and pay again two years after that. Will it be a revolution? Doubtful, but buyer's remorse is a real thing and a useful thing.

If Democrats can find their minds sometime between now and January, the unified messaging should be:

"OK Republicans. You spent the last 7 years telling us you could do it better. Now you've got no excuses. You have the Presidency, both chambers of Congress, and a soon to be Conservative Supreme Court. Show us how good at governing you are. We provided health care to millions, saved the American auto industry, and killed Bin Laden. Show us what you've got."
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If Democrats can find their minds sometime between now and January, the unified messaging should be:

"OK Republicans. You spent the last 7 years telling us you could do it better. Now you've got no excuses. You have the Presidency, both chambers of Congress, and a soon to be Conservative Supreme Court. Show us how good at governing you are. We provided health care to millions, saved the American auto industry, and killed Bin Laden. Show us what you've got."

 

And for a sneak peak of the answer, look at the last 4 years or so in Kansas.

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

This is going to be bad. It's going to be scary. It's going to be violent. However, Republicans will pay for this in two years and pay again two years after that. Will it be a revolution? Doubtful, but buyer's remorse is a real thing and a useful thing.


I hope your right.

 

 It seems a safe bet that after four years of Trump Warren will want to run.

post #40 of 175
It's a bitter reversal of expectations, but Trump won turnout as though this was a midterm election and wound up giving actual coattails down ballot. He didn't stir up enough anti-Republican backlash to sink Republicans in most cases but instead helped them. And now the next election is another midterm, with favorables for the Republicans, and it's mostly incumbent Democrats who will be on the ballot, without big presidential Democratic turnout operations to buoy them.

I want to be optimistic that buyer's remorse will set in and give Democrats resounding midterm victories, but uncertain times are ahead.
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I want to be optimistic that buyer's remorse will set in and give Democrats resounding midterm victories, but uncertain times are ahead.

 

The important issues for voters appear to be 1.)economy/jobs, 2.)not part of establishment or big business globalism and 3.)not focusing on social issues to the extent it distracts from points 1.) and 2.)

 

I mean, despite the last 10-15 years to the contrary, much of this used to be part of the strength of the Democrats.  I don't know how the fuck they turned into Republicans-lite.  Maybe ask Bernie Sanders for some pointers.  

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The important issues for voters appear to be 1.)economy/jobs, 2.)not part of establishment or big business globalism and 3.)not focusing on social issues to the extent it distracts from points 1.) and 2.)

 

 

If the economy were important, business failure Drumpf would not have won a state.

 

If avoiding the establishment were important, legacy rich kid Drumpf would not have won a state.

 

The important issues for voters appear to be: whose reality show performance they find more entertaining.

post #43 of 175
So let's elect a reality show buffoon with no meaningful experience, multiple failed businesses and bankruptcies, and no desire to pay his share of taxes.

Trump said the right words enough times, but he is not a champion of the working class if the past is any reliable guide. I fear there are no good answers to this outburst of populist sentiment that aren't detrimental to the global economy, the safety of immigrants, etc.
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Trump said the right words enough times, but he is not a champion of the working class if the past is any reliable guide. I fear there are no good answers to this outburst of populist sentiment that aren't detrimental to the global economy, the safety of immigrants, etc.

 

If people are willing to do what they say they believe in politically and take a bit of risk, its actually the perfect time to restructure the DNC and create an actual progressive movement. Maybe with less of a focus on identity politics and addressing individuals or absurd things. 

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Can the DMC survive Clinton? Rudy Giuliani is going to have a field day for the next year, at lest.

 

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Can the DMC survive Clinton? Rudy Giuliani is going to have a field day for the next year, at lest.

 

 

Of course the DNC can survive Clinton as long as she is no longer involved.

 

There are a lot of progressives that have made the argument that this is actually a better scenario for future elections. Because we are pretty certain Hillary wont run again, the DNC will be completely restructured and with the number of Berniecrats starting to run for offices and becoming involved, chances are we can put the right people into the DNC and distance ourselves from what just happened. A move that we could not make if Hillary won. A lot of democrats were tired of the EMail talk but i can only imagine what it would have been like had Hillary won.... there would be no other topic by the right wing and by progressives for the next four years.

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So let's elect a reality show buffoon with no meaningful experience, multiple failed businesses and bankruptcies, and no desire to pay his share of taxes.

Trump said the right words enough times, but he is not a champion of the working class if the past is any reliable guide. I fear there are no good answers to this outburst of populist sentiment that aren't detrimental to the global economy, the safety of immigrants, etc.

 

When he elects bankers to be in his cabinet, when he passes TPP, when he doesn't build the wall, maybe his supporters will believe his ACTIONS, more than the words he used to win them over.

 

We better be ready with a strong candidate of our own in 2020. I really like Jason Kander. He ran and lost for Senate in Missouri, but he lost 49-46, where the state went 58-39 for Trump. He's young, an army veteran, and can challenge Trump for the same voter base. We need to survive until then, but at least we have 100 Marvel and DC movies already in production to help us through the dark days.

post #48 of 175

Maybe we can convince Jon Stewart to run in 2020.

post #49 of 175
I'm voting for corrupt democrats in 2018 and 2020, just to piss off El Whatever.
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That's fine for 2018, because we'll be defending a lot of Senate seats. Yay corporate whores.

 

But the 2020 Democratic primaries will pretty much determine the fate of the planet (if Trump hasn't blown us up yet)

 

No fucking around.

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