Just getting this started as we will be needing it, one way or another, in a few weeks.
Will God Emperor Trump's reign be continuing, or will it be Teflon Hillary fighting on? Time will tell.
I also think there's no way he runs for a second term. What will he be? 75?
This presupposes that there will be an America around in 2020....which, with a Trump presidency, is a 50/50 proposition.
To quote a wise man...
This was posted in the ORIGINAL 2016 election thread, started 9 months before the actual 2012 elections. So, I applaud that we waited until 7 days out, but...can we at least wait until next Wednesday, after we have theoretically elected someone the president for 2016- 2020?
Okay No Baby Boomers this time. Warren and Biden are too old. No Michelle Obama.
Gen Xer: Gavin Newsom, Tammy Duckworth, or Corey Booker (Who is too Wall Street) fill the need. What about Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook? Milennial worth about 10 times as much as Trump. He Would be in his Late 30's in 2020
I see Elizabeth Warren being the one who gets the big push in 2020. She's a second chance at electing a viable female candidate and she lacks the baggage that Hillary Clinton had (we hope, anyways).
At this point, I'm pretty sure Nikki Haley is more likely to be our first female President than Elizabeth Warren.
And for a sneak peak of the answer, look at the last 4 years or so in Kansas.
I hope your right.
It seems a safe bet that after four years of Trump Warren will want to run.
The important issues for voters appear to be 1.)economy/jobs, 2.)not part of establishment or big business globalism and 3.)not focusing on social issues to the extent it distracts from points 1.) and 2.)
I mean, despite the last 10-15 years to the contrary, much of this used to be part of the strength of the Democrats. I don't know how the fuck they turned into Republicans-lite. Maybe ask Bernie Sanders for some pointers.
If the economy were important, business failure Drumpf would not have won a state.
If avoiding the establishment were important, legacy rich kid Drumpf would not have won a state.
The important issues for voters appear to be: whose reality show performance they find more entertaining.
If people are willing to do what they say they believe in politically and take a bit of risk, its actually the perfect time to restructure the DNC and create an actual progressive movement. Maybe with less of a focus on identity politics and addressing individuals or absurd things.
Of course the DNC can survive Clinton as long as she is no longer involved.
There are a lot of progressives that have made the argument that this is actually a better scenario for future elections. Because we are pretty certain Hillary wont run again, the DNC will be completely restructured and with the number of Berniecrats starting to run for offices and becoming involved, chances are we can put the right people into the DNC and distance ourselves from what just happened. A move that we could not make if Hillary won. A lot of democrats were tired of the EMail talk but i can only imagine what it would have been like had Hillary won.... there would be no other topic by the right wing and by progressives for the next four years.
When he elects bankers to be in his cabinet, when he passes TPP, when he doesn't build the wall, maybe his supporters will believe his ACTIONS, more than the words he used to win them over.
We better be ready with a strong candidate of our own in 2020. I really like Jason Kander. He ran and lost for Senate in Missouri, but he lost 49-46, where the state went 58-39 for Trump. He's young, an army veteran, and can challenge Trump for the same voter base. We need to survive until then, but at least we have 100 Marvel and DC movies already in production to help us through the dark days.
That's fine for 2018, because we'll be defending a lot of Senate seats. Yay corporate whores.
But the 2020 Democratic primaries will pretty much determine the fate of the planet (if Trump hasn't blown us up yet)
No fucking around.