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post #1001 of 5094

There's a wonderful Facebook page called 'The Simpsons against Donald Trump' - 

 

 

 

post #1002 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post

I like where Leto's going, but he hasn't turned his anger toward the Democrats who helped this happen yet. Let's give him six months to watch the Democrats in Congress roll over for Trump like they want their bellies rubbed, and then ask.

Seriously, watch the fucking Democrats. We're going to see what they're made out of once this son of a bitch is sworn in, I promise you.

 

You can start with Warren and Sanders:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_democrats_are_already_screwing_up_the_trump_resistance.html

post #1003 of 5094
Thread Starter 

That opinion piece ignores the findings from numerous exit polls:

 

1) Many  people in that "White Nationalist" Voting Block voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. Did they suddenly wake up in 2016 and say "hey I've always hated Black people!"?

 

2) It's been amply documented that people projected all kinds of hopes onto Donald Trump. 

 

3) A wise political operative once said "It's the Economy, Stupid". If people didn't feel disenfranchised and their jobs, the very ability to survive was at risk, Trump would never have been elected. 

 

4) non trivial numbers of African American and Hispanics voted for Trump. They racist too? 

 

All that said, there's no question that actual Racists feel empowered in a way we've never seen before (well I haven't in my lifetime). I agree that the Dems, and Trump, need to condemn the StormFront types asap and in the strongest possible terms (as in, Trump needs to sic the FBI on these bastards).

post #1004 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
Trump needs to sic the FBI on these bastards.

Agreed with most of Cylon's post, but this is fucking adorable.

post #1005 of 5094
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post

 

There's a simple answer - it's because a huge section of the Republican base is that part of the population that's spiteful, stupid, backwards, and prejudiced in every way you can name. They vote for obstructionist bullies when they vote Republican, and they're too stupid  to realise that Republicans are the reason their healthcare is garbage, their boss downsized and outsourced, and they've no social safety net. Some of them do realise this, but will cut off their nose to spite their face.

 

The Democrats, who are a very moderate left-wing party, will always be held to an unfair double standard because none of the groups vote for them out of hatred or spite (unless it's hatred and spite for the hateful and spiteful).

 

One of the many annoying facts of the current body-politick is that the party of non-functional government never pays a political price for obscene obstruction. Voters who rate Congress "terribly," then re-elect the incumbents who are ideologically opposed to government working for the collective good, while complaining about "Washington dysfunction"...puh-leeeease.

 

Gerrymandering is major a problem, here, but none of these elections are really about compromise or restoring functional governance. This is the strength of the culture wars...it's an emotional black hole-type distraction from the roadblock-governance going on. Just like crack cocaine -- a ton of people have profited from it.

post #1006 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

 

3) A wise political operative once said "It's the Economy, Stupid". If people didn't feel disenfranchised and their jobs, the very ability to survive was at risk, Trump would never have been elected. 

 

 

But the economy, jobs numbers, and stock market have all improved under Obama. What do these disenfranchised people think Trump is going to do for them? What policies of his will affect their way of life?

 

I got laid off recently. I wonder if Trump will open up the job market for me.

post #1007 of 5094

Folks genuinely seem to think we can go back to living comfortably and raising families in single-income households or something.

 

You can't just will the post-war manufacturing boom back into existence.

post #1008 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post
 

Folks genuinely seem to think we can go back to living comfortably and raising families in single-income households or something.

 

You can't just will the post-war manufacturing boom back into existence.

 

But Trump could 'will' a war back into existence and then, BAM....post-war manufacturing boom.  You gotta think long term.

post #1009 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post

But the economy, jobs numbers, and stock market have all improved under Obama. What do these disenfranchised people think Trump is going to do for them? What policies of his will affect their way of life?
The key point is that the economy and employment market haven't improved for these people. And no, Trump isn't going to be able to fix that, because he doesn't actually care and is an incompetent baboon anyway. But he at least pretended to have the answers, and when people are desperate, even that looks better than the mute shrugs or total indifference that the Democrats were offering them.
post #1010 of 5094

Trump Supporter Shouts Profanities And Interrupts HAMILTON In ChicagoQuote:

Now, BroadwayWorld has learned that a Trump supporter interrupted the Saturday evening performance of Hamilton in Chicago. An audience member seated in the balcony allegedly shouted "We won! You Lost! Get over it! F*ck you!" during the number "Dear Theodosia."

 

One Twitter user who attended the show alleges that the audience member also shouted profanities and had an altercation with security before being removed from the auditorium.

 

One Facebook user wrote "At the end, the performers were crying... so was I. They didn't break characters once. They still sang their hearts out."

 

We'll continue to follow this story as more information becomes available.

 

Update: an audience member has exclusively confirmed to BroadwayWorld that the initial disturbance began after the audience member was enraged by the line "immigrants, we get the job done." The majority of the audience cheered that specific line.

Audience members exited the auditorium to retrieve venue staff to remove the disruptive audience member. Our source confirmed that the altercation lasted for at least two numbers and that there was a struggle with security but "he didn't throw punches."

 

The audience member also informed us that venue staff later said the audience member had been intoxicated.

post #1011 of 5094
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Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post


The key point is that the economy and employment market haven't improved for these people. And no, Trump isn't going to be able to fix that, because he doesn't actually care and is an incompetent baboon anyway. But he at least pretended to have the answers, and when people are desperate, even that looks better than the mute shrugs or total indifference that the Democrats were offering them.

 

Actually, there was a Dem/HC jobs plan....it just wasn't simplistic. 

 

These folks want an easy and quick answer to a complicated and long term problem.

 

It wouldn't matter if you laid out a multi-point plan explaining a way to reinvigorate the economy....they don't want to hear it.

 

To the bigger issue, how to you explain something to someone who is incapable of understanding...or worse, unwilling to listen?

post #1012 of 5094

"We won.  You lost." seems to be a popular refrain among Trump supporters.   And while I know both sides engage too much in politics as team sports, I think this is more than that.  These people are deluding themselves into thinking with one vote they won the war for the culture.  But I promise you they didn't.  Yes, bigots are emboldened right now, but the more Trump tries to push his retrograde social agenda, the more he is going to galvanize not just the left, but plenty of people in the middle who voted for him.  He should just keep his head low and bilk the country out of billions of dollars, because there is no way in shit this country is going back to a whites only Christian nation.

post #1013 of 5094
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post

 

To the bigger issue, how to you explain something to someone who is incapable of understanding...or worse, unwilling to listen?

 

One thing that recent Democrat candidates have failed to do that has always baffled me is Leading with a headline.

 

I've only taken one speech class but I could always rip out an A+ essay in 30 minutes, because I followed basic communication rules like: LEAD WITH YOUR LEDE.

 

The first thing any candidate should be saying about a Republican opponent is, "Your policy will be terrible for working class Americans." They can follow it up with whatever explanation is necessary, but that simple line must be the first thing out of their mouths. The easy part is that it can be applied to almost every modern Republican policy.

 

Hilary, like most Democrats, liked to either dive right into the explanation or go for a sound bite, but either requires the audience to connect the dots to the much simpler point that was rarely stated outright.

 

The Democrats have essentially ceded the white working class vote to a party that explicitly aims to destroy the middle class and exploit the lower class. Not directly challenging that pandering bullshit at every opportunity is a complete failure.

 

Political speeches and debates are teaching moments. Anyone who knows the details of what you're talking about is probably a politician. Expecting your audience to already be onboard and informed is myopic and incompetent. 

post #1014 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

"We won.  You lost." seems to be a popular refrain among Trump supporters.   And while I know both sides engage too much in politics as team sports, I think this is more than that.  These people are deluding themselves into thinking with one vote they won the war for the culture.  But I promise you they didn't.  Yes, bigots are emboldened right now, but the more Trump tries to push his retrograde social agenda, the more he is going to galvanize not just the left, but plenty of people in the middle who voted for him.  He should just keep his head low and bilk the country out of billions of dollars, because there is no way in shit this country is going back to a whites only Christian nation.

 

That's all he wants to do, but he's such a manbaby that his idea of keeping his head low still involves using Twitter as a stream-of-consciousness diary for every racist thoughtlet and petty grievance that wounded his precious feelings that day.

post #1015 of 5094

If Trump having 'thin skin' was an act.....it would be amazing.

 

I think I am going to start calling him Trollmp.

 

post #1016 of 5094
After nearly eight years of him personally dumping on Obama, it's news to Trump that people criticize the President?
post #1017 of 5094

He tweeted this out but deleted it...but not before someone got a screencap

 

 

Him complaining about not memorizing lines...har!

post #1018 of 5094
Why didn't the Hamilton cast perform a song and dance number about Mike Pence?Very unprofesh.
post #1019 of 5094
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Agreed with most of Cylon's post, but this is fucking adorable.

 

 

Hey there's a precedent: 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

post #1020 of 5094

I find it hilarious that Trump has thus far tweeted about Hamilton 4 times in the span of 2 days and then went after SNL.   Did Trump not read the memo that as president, you have a target on your back for protest and satire?    Why is he not letting this go?

post #1021 of 5094
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

I find it hilarious that Trump has thus far tweeted about Hamilton 4 times in the span of 2 days and then went after SNL.   Did Trump not read the memo that as president, you have a target on your back for protest and satire?    Why is he not letting this go?

The answer is in your question?

Either that or he is being held hostage by Pence and Bannon and it's a coded plea for someone to come and rescue him?
post #1022 of 5094
I am curious if this is just how it's going to be from now on. Are we going to get used to this?
post #1023 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

I am curious if this is just how it's going to be from now on. Are we going to get used to this?

 

Yes and yes. It's embarrassing.

post #1024 of 5094

Can someone explain to me how an overweight 70 year old man stepping into one of the most stressful jobs on the planet which he is completely unprepaired for is NOT setting himself up for a heart attack? Especially if he gets himself so worked up over the goddamn cast of fucking HAMILTON? Sure, you can point to Reagan but he seemed to be in pretty good shape for his age. 

 

And this fuckstick's NOT going to be able to stick to any kind of diet...

post #1025 of 5094
Oh, it'll never catch up with him. Nothing ever does.
post #1026 of 5094

We're going to get used to it, sure. And by used to it, I mean "we will once again reach a point where it's dangerous to be critical of the federal government." 

post #1027 of 5094
He'll be completely bald for sure by the end of the 4 years.
post #1028 of 5094
All of us will.
post #1029 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

All of us will.

 

Nuclear fallout does that.

post #1030 of 5094

Marine Le Pen has taken a huge lead in France:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-poll-election-odds-latest-french-presidential-lead-sarkozy-a7428126.html

 

Seriously, how long before Putin has a friendly government in Germany?  He's taking over the joint, and everyone is just perfectly fine with that.

post #1031 of 5094

Melania and Barron Trump won't be moving into the White House:

 

http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/melania-and-barron-trump-wont-be-moving-to-the-white-house/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=twitter

 

Protecting the Trump family is definitely going to cost more money than usual no matter how one slices it.

post #1032 of 5094

Like, I guarantee you that you see some type of lawsuit filed by Tiffany's, Gucci, or any of the high-profile shops around Trump Tower against the Trump Organization by the end of 2017. There are so many people about to lose jobs because nobody wants to do a bag check to go shopping. 
 

Also, apparently Barron's secret service detail are doing daily sweeps of the school/classroom? Good luck finding parents that will put up with that. 

post #1033 of 5094

New Yorkers are going to love the Trumps after 4 years of this.

post #1034 of 5094
Not just for four years...for EVAH...as long as he lives..
post #1035 of 5094
Ahahahahahaha!
post #1036 of 5094

On The Media interviews Jared Taylor, who the Southern Poverty Law Center calls the "cultivated, cosmopolitan face of white supremacy"

 

http://www.wnyc.org/story/what-white-separatist-expects-trump-administration

 

 

Anyone who feels the need to end an interview with "I feel sorry for you.  Your mind is closed.  I hope you're happy in your ignorance" sounds like real winner!  Fascinating that a guy that promotes white superiority also believes that human intelligence goes:

 

- blacks are less intelligent than whites

- whites are less intelligent than East Asians

 

 

he speaks Japanese though, so he's cultured!

 

Also:

 

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 One thing that separates Taylor from much of the radical right, however, is his lack of anti-Semitism. He told MSNBC-TV interviewer Phil Donahue in 2003 that Jews "are fine by me" and "look white to me."
 

Despite Taylor's best efforts to keep the internal peace, this long-smoldering issue finally burst into the open when David Duke, the former Klan leader and author of an anti-Semitic autobiography, My Awakening, grabbed the microphone at the 2006 American Renaissance conference and went on a thinly veiled anti-Semitic rant about "a power in the world that dominates our media, influences our government and that has led to the internal destruction of our will and spirit." In response, Michael Hart, a Jewish astrophysicist and longtime American Renaissance conference attendee, leaped from his seat and declared, "You fucking Nazi, you've disgraced this meeting."

What ensued was a donnybrook in which Duke supporters, including Black and Kelso, jeered Hart's comments and others, who backed Hart, denounced Duke. This incident set off a months-long battle of words, with each side declaring that the other was undermining the broader efforts of the movement.

post #1037 of 5094

Oh well, he likes Jews. Totally fine then!

 

Since when is 'not being an anti-Semite' deserving of some goddamn trophy?

post #1038 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post
 

The real question is if the Republican House would ever find enough backbone to actually start an impeachment trial for anything short of live footage of Trump raping and murdering a preteen white Christian boy.  Signs point to "not just no, but hell no."

 

 

 

 

FTFY

post #1039 of 5094

Hahaha, apparently Trump gets to write-off the 25 million dollar settlement.

 

Which way to the egress?

post #1040 of 5094
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

 

But Trump could 'will' a war back into existence and then, BAM....post-war manufacturing boom.  You gotta think long term.

post #1041 of 5094
post #1042 of 5094
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

 

Actually, there was a Dem/HC jobs plan....it just wasn't simplistic. 

 

These folks want an easy and quick answer to a complicated and long term problem.

 

It wouldn't matter if you laid out a multi-point plan explaining a way to reinvigorate the economy....they don't want to hear it.

 

To the bigger issue, how to you explain something to someone who is incapable of understanding...or worse, unwilling to listen?

 

Unless it was about repealing NAFTA/Free Trade and forcing companies to produce goods here if they want to sell them, no one cares, and people know Hillary "Worked for Wal-mart" Clinton is in the pockets of these companies/corporations whose only goal is to drive the USA towards third world status but, like CommodeJohn said, at least Trump pretended to care and people who are desperate will buy any snake oil.


Edited by PolitiCat - 11/20/16 at 6:25pm
post #1043 of 5094

 I know that the EC isn't going to vote Hillary in and if they did, its possible that Trump supporters would find dangerous ways to show their anger, but it save us from the following:

 

A recession. I don't trust Trump on the economy after his string of business failures.

 

Not having a President that is in the pocket of Putin.

 

Not seeing the civil rights gains that happened under Obama rolled back.

 

Not having the ACA aka Obamacare repealed.

 

I seriously doubt an over glorified game show host will have a sound foreign policy.

 

Not only will nothing get down about climate change, he could make it worst by pulling out of the Paris Accords and signing in deregulations that could cause further damage.

 

Its easy to see another Katrina happening on Trump's watch because he appointed a lackey head of FEMA.

post #1044 of 5094

During a 2015 trip to Russia, Michael Flynn said he wasn't sure if the 2013 Syrian gas attack was real or a false flag operation:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/politics/kfile-michael-flynn-rt-syria/index.html

 

He. Was. The. Head. Of. The. Defense. Intelligence. Agency. At. The. Time.

post #1045 of 5094
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post

Marine Le Pen has taken a huge lead in France:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-poll-election-odds-latest-french-presidential-lead-sarkozy-a7428126.html

Seriously, how long before Putin has a friendly government in Germany?  He's taking over the joint, and everyone is just perfectly fine with that.

You can take comfort in the fact that this poll was taken before the first round of the primaries for the right-wing party which, guess what, the polls got wrong. They were predicting a Sarkozy-Juppé duel for months now and Sarkozy got booted off, coming in third behind Juppé and François Fillon, who unexpectedly got a major portion of the votes. I'm not particularly happy about this since Fillon is a traditionalist catholic with horrible policy ideas but at the very least it feels fucking good to be finally rid of Sarkozy. Hopefully the next time he's in the news will be because he's finally tried for all the shady shit he pulled when he was president.
post #1046 of 5094

Never having had enough relatives in the country to grow up being a part of big thanksgiving gatherings, I can only really be fascinated by the conundrum that many in the country face over how to deal with the outcome of the election over dinner with a wide array of friends, family and relatives. Especially when issues of race play SO hard into the divide, there's such obvious irony over the fact that many are concerned about things getting ugly during the sanctity of this holiday tradition... built upon the cruel lie of goodwill that is Thanksgiving.

 

http://www.wnyc.org/story/united-states-of-anxiety-call-in-5

 

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Whether you prefer dark meat, white meat, Tofurky or just mashed potatoes, most Americans can agree that the 2016 presidential election was contentious. With neither candidate managing to garner 50-percent of the vote and in a world of charged media outlets, families coming together for Thanksgiving Dinner face the likely prospect of heated political conversation landing on their holiday platters.

And, as The United States of Anxiety found, the caustic nature of politics not only wears away one's patience but also one's health.

post #1047 of 5094

What are you saying Nooj? That the immigrants from Europe didn't have a nice turkey dinner with the Native Americans? I'm shocked! Shocked I say!

post #1048 of 5094

This whole thing is pretty nuts, but my favorite part is her idea that America rejected a bloated government this election, despite the fact that every economists said Trump's agenda would bloat the government much more than Clinton's by trillions of dollars:

 

 

post #1049 of 5094

Thirty seconds is all I could take.  WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

 

Lady?  Fuck off back to your safe space.  

post #1050 of 5094
Conservatives can say what they want about network news, and CNN having a liberal bias, but fucking hell, the manufactured outrage on FOX is just toxic.  How can anyone possibly take that woman seriously?  And yet I know there are people, especially old people, across the country who tune into that and get their underpants in a bunch.  And it cannot be fucking good for their health, to say nothing of how corrosive it is to their minds.  They can slant the news to a conservative audience all they want, but that shit is irresponsible in the extreme.
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