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post #12451 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Apparently hiring your relatives is illegal, but whatevs!

 

What if they're your daughter and your wife, though?  Cancels it out!

post #12452 of 29697
Are you insinuating that Trump wishes his daughter was his wife? Cuz that'd be just crazy..
post #12453 of 29697

 The Trump presidency seems like something Kim Newman would imagine for one of his alternate history novels, then discard for being too ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

Are you insinuating that Trump wishes his daughter was his wife? Cuz that'd be just crazy..

 

Think about it.  it would solve a lot of problems.

post #12455 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

 The Trump presidency seems like something Kim Newman would imagine for one of his alternate history novels, then discard for being too ridiculous.

Again I will submit that Trump's presidency disproves the possibility of past directed time travel.
post #12456 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Turingmachine75 View Post

Again I will submit that Trump's presidency disproves the possibility of past directed time travel.

Unless Trump's downfall ushers a golden era of progress and social reform; look at time travel both ways.
Sure, you can kill Hitler or Stalin, but then maybe that makes thing worse or prevents a greater good down the timeline.
post #12457 of 29697
Trump is a symptom, his supporters and the GOP are the disease. His downfall would remove a clear and present danger, but unless the people who cast a ballot for him were to all spontaneously combust upon his removal from office, I'd say these hypothetical time travelers totally wasted their hyperdrive money.
post #12458 of 29697

How do you know it hasn't already happened? If anything, today feels like a time travel scheme gone horribly wrong. I bet Barry Allen tried to save his mom again.

post #12459 of 29697
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Trump is a symptom, his supporters and the GOP are the disease. His downfall would remove a clear and present danger, but unless the people who cast a ballot for him were to all spontaneously combust upon his removal from office, I'd say these hypothetical time travelers totally wasted their hyperdrive money.

Nope. They need to die out naturally so we can exhibit their fossils and say who they were and why they went extinct.
It took Germany nearly a century, and now it's seen as the leader of the free world.
We need to have these kind of people, with these racist, backwards and hateful ideals to be weeded out and socially and culturally rooted out, in time.
It's the only way to prevent them from rising again and keep poisoning the world with their hatred.
post #12460 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

 

Ah, Fox News.

 

This "Fox & Friends" segment tried to water down everything:

 

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/843793510885216257

 

 

"News You Can't Use."

post #12461 of 29697

Considering the amount of time FoX News spent jerking off over Benghazi and Hillary's emails they can kindly fuck off forever.  

 

The last St. Patrick's Day bit with Fox and Friends on Last Week Tonight was fantastic and well timed.

post #12462 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post

 

"News You Can't Use."

 

Hey, they finally found a slogan that works for them.

post #12463 of 29697
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post
 

Huh, who would have thought the Captain-Planet-Villain-Looking Oil exec that is now Sec. of State, was a moron?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/20/the-dangerous-trajectory-of-rex-tillersons-tenure/?tid=ss_tw

 

Tillerson is skipping a NATO meeting in April to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago, but he's going to Russia a few weeks after that event passes:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

 

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U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson plans to skip an April 5-6 meeting of NATO foreign ministers for a U.S. visit by the Chinese president and will travel to Russia later in the month, U.S. officials said on Monday, a step allies may see as putting Moscow's concerns ahead of theirs.

 

Tillerson intends to miss what would be his first meeting in Brussels with the 28 NATO members to attend President Donald Trump's expected April 6-7 talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, four current and former U.S. officials said.

 

The decisions to skip the NATO meeting and to visit Moscow risked feeding a perception that Trump may be putting U.S. dealings with big powers before those of smaller nations that depend on Washington for their security, said two former U.S. officials.

 

What wonderful timing to have this out there.

post #12464 of 29697

"Skills-based" immigration that Trump pretends to favor (sometimes, anyway) is under attack:

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/leticiamiranda/middle-eastern-airlines-report-surprise-us-electronics-ban?utm_term=.lxky6glzL#.bh8kE8lJV

 

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The US is barring passengers from bringing laptops, tablet computers, and other electronic devices as carry-on items on non-stop flights from 10 airports in the Middle East and North Africa.

 

The ban was revealed Monday after two Middle Eastern airlines began telling passengers about the new restrictions. A representative of Saudi Arabian Airlines, based at JFK International Airport in New York, told BuzzFeed News that the ban begins immediately, and covers all electronic devices, excluding cell phones. The airline said the ban applies on flights headed to the US.

 

The representative declined to answer further questions and said inquiries should be directed to the Transportation Security Administration.

 

The ban will hit every major air travel hub in the Middle East, including the home airports of global airline industry giants like Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways and Turkish Airlines. A US official told the Associated Press that the ban covers all direct flights to to the US from Cairo, Egypt; Amman, Jordan; Kuwait City, Kuwait; Casablanca, Morocco; Doha, Qatar; Riyadh and Jeddah in Saudi Arabia; Istanbul, Turkey; and Abu Dhabi and Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.

 

All these countries are US allies, many of them crucial ones: Turkey is a NATO member, Egypt is the second-largest recipient of American military aid and Qatar hosts the forward operating headquarters of the US Central Command. Dubai’s airport is the world’s busiest for international passenger traffic, while Abu Dhabi’s is so trusted that US customs and immigration checks are conducted there.

 

Details of the ban will be announced on Tuesday, NBC News reported, saying such changes to security rules “are made periodically in response to threat intelligence, and laptop computers have long been the source of concern.”

 

The devices banned from the cabin will need to be packed in checked baggage. Former officials said the use of certain electronic devices in the flight cabin has presented a longstanding threat, but some questioned why action is being taken now.

 

“If this is true, the threat of attempts to disguise explosives within laptops and other large electronic devices carried through the last point of departure airports bound for the United States is not new. What appears to be new is this latest overreaction,” a former administration official familiar with aviation security procedures told BuzzFeed News. “It appears to be a Muslim ban by a thousand cuts.”

 

The ban keeps getting stopped in court, but they can hurt Muslims in other ways.

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Originally Posted by Turingmachine75 View Post


Again I will submit that Trump's presidency disproves the possibility of past directed time travel.

 

As the utterly excellent source that I go to for all my time travel science "The Adventures of Dr McNinja" says, travelling back into the past creates a whole new timeline that branches off from the past. People in the future that the time traveller left from don't see any change.

 

http://drmcninja.com/issues/

 

Christopher Hastings, who wrote and illustrated this, has since gone on to write for Deadpool and Gwenpool.

 

post #12466 of 29697

Trump wants credit for Colin Kaepernick still being a free agent:

 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-boasts-hes-the-reason-colin-kaepernick-doesnt-have-a-job-2017-03-20?link=sfmw_tw

 

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At a rally Monday night in Louisville, Ky., Trump called out Kaepernick. “There was an article today, that was reported, that NFL owners don’t want to pick him up because they don’t want to get a nasty tweet from Donald Trump,” he said. “I just saw that. I said if I remember that I’m going to report it to the people of Kentucky. Because they like it when people actually stand for the American flag.”
Trump likely was referring to a Bleacher Report article last week, in which one anonymous NFL general manager said of Kaepernick: “Some teams fear the backlash from fans after getting him. They think there might be protests or [President Donald] Trump will tweet about the team.”
post #12467 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

 

This "Fox & Friends" segment tried to water down everything:

 

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/843793510885216257

 

 

"News You Can't Use."

 

 

Judging by the choice of wardrobe and the positioning of the camera, Fox News is still very much in the business of "news you can use", they're just not saying what for.

post #12468 of 29697
Even more telling is the ONLY ELEVEN HOURS TILL DER FUHRER SPEWS CHUM ON RABID SUPPORTERS timer in the corner.
 
But hey, props to Fox News; it's pretty progressive to do an all older woman version of the Power Rangers.
post #12469 of 29697

The Daily Caller is giving Trump credit for $100 million in funds being sent to Flint, Michigan to help with the lead crisis:

 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/18/trumps-epa-grants-flint-100-million-to-fix-broken-water-system/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

 

The real story?  Obama requested the funds, Congress passed the bill in December 2016 and Obama signed it.

post #12470 of 29697
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
 

 

 

Judging by the choice of wardrobe and the positioning of the camera, Fox News is still very much in the business of "news you can use", they're just not saying what for.

 

Speaking of Fox News, Andrew Napolitano has been pulled after Trump used his nonsense to drag the United Kingdom into this "Obama wiretapped me" bullshit:

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-napolitano-fox-news-20170320-story.html

 

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Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano is being kept off the air indefinitely amid the controversy over his unverified claims that British intelligence wiretapped Trump Tower at the behest of former President Obama.

 

Fox News did not respond to inquiries about Napolitano’s status Monday. Napolitano was conspicuously missing from the network’s coverage of the confirmation hearings on Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch — an event in which he typically would have played a significant role. He has not been on the air since Thursday.

 

People familiar with the situation who could speak only on the condition of anonymity said Napolitano is not expected to be on Fox News Channel any time in the near future. Napolitano was not available for comment.

 

On March 4, President Trump first tweeted the accusation that Obama ordered his “‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory.”

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And because Fox News is having a quite a day, one more thing on them:

 

Fox News:

 

 

CNN:

 

post #12472 of 29697

Trump and Ryan are adding things to sweeten the deal for Republicans on the health care plan:

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-repeal-bill-changes-236278

 

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The changes to the bill come just a few hours before Trump will address the full House GOP conference. He's expected to urge them to vote for the bill. House Speaker Paul Ryan and his top lieutenants have been meeting with holdout moderates to find out what's needed to secure their support, while White House budget director Mick Mulvaney, a former Freedom Caucus member, has been working the far-right.

 

The mangers amendment is expected to entice some to vote "yes" on the bill, on both sides. For moderate and centrist Republicans, it would set aside funding — about $85 billion, according to Republican sources — for tax credits to help Americans between 50 and 64, who would see their premiums skyrocket under the current repeal plan. The amendment would not set up the tax credits but would instruct the Senate to do so, forcing House Republicans to take a vote on something the upper chamber would do later. It would be paid for by allowing consumers to write off less medical debt.

 

The boost for Baby Boomers was designed to counter the huge financial hit that Americans in that age group would take under the bill. The Congressional Budget Office said last week a 64-year-old making $26,500 would have paid about $1,700 for an insurance policy under Obamacare. But under the repeal plan, that would jump to about $14,600, CBO said. 

 

That number scared a bunch of centrists on Capitol Hill. The powerful interest group AARP mobilized its members to oppose the bill in part because of the potentially huge cut to Baby Boomers.

 

Trump wanted the beefed up tax credit in part because voters that age are a core element of his constituency and helped propel him to the White House:

 

The bill also includes provisions nodding at anti-abortion GOP leaders. Among other changes to the repeal bill, the amendment would delete a provision that would have allowed consumers to move leftover tax credit money into a Health Savings Account. Anti-abortion groups had raised concerns that the provision might be eliminated under the Senate's strict budget rules and inadvertently allow for taxpayer funding of abortion.

 

And:

 

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It also includes some red-meat for the right. Two of the changes, first reported on Friday, were essential to winning over the support of the Republican Study Committee. Trump met with leaders of the conservative group last week and agreed to allow work requirements in Medicaid as well as give states the option of converting their Medicaid programs into block grants. Both concessions were heralded by conservatives as necessary modifications to the health entitlement and long-term wins. Some states sought work requirement approval under the Obama administration, but were rebuffed by federal officials.

 

The amendment also sped up the repeal Obamacare's taxes a year earlier than originally planned, a win for conservatives who want to eliminate the Affordable Care Act as quickly a possible. It would also repeal the Cadillac tax in 2026 instead of 2025.

 

House GOP leaders also threw the New York delegation a bone to secure a whole host of "yes" votes. The amendment included a targeted change to Medicaid funding that’s specifically designed to garner support from New York’s delegation. It would attempt to transfer more Medicaid spending from counties to the state, by blocking New York from obtaining federal reimbursements for payments made by counties. 

 

Rep. Chris Collins and other New York Republicans have been pushing leaders to add the amendment. Rep. Claudia Tenney told local reporters that the inclusion of the amendment would be essential to win her support for the whole repeal bill.

 

The amendment would also change federal Medicaid reimbursement rates for the elderly and disabled, a win for governors who were concerned about cuts.

post #12473 of 29697
So House Republicans aren't actually creating the credits, they're setting aside money for the Senate to (presumably) do so. Ryan is so intent on ramming this through that he's asking members to accept voting for a pig in a poke.

They literally have to vote for the bill to see what's in it.

This has to be some elaborate political performance piece.
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I have a friend who thinks that, down to the level of Trump having his tweets vetted by media experts and timed perfectly.  Mind you, he thought that Trump was an anti-ringer designed to turn the GOP nomination toward Jeb Bush, and I don't hear much about that these days.  Whatever happens, it's all part of the plan.  But he can't explain how making everyone hate them will cement their hold on power.   

 

Me, I think Republicans are letting Trump have free reign as long as he keeps signing their odious legislation, then they'll ditch him for Pence; basically using what's at hand to their advantage then coming to the rescue when the public have had enough.  This assumes that whatever turns up between the Trump campaign and Russia doesn't take Pence down as well.  He was part of the campaign, after all.

 

So which one of us do you think is wrong?

post #12475 of 29697
It's damnably difficult to overthrow a sitting President through peaceful means, or else it would have happened more often in our nation's history than it has. Even the section of the 25th Amendment that discusses what to do if a President is determined to be medically unfit for office would require the majority of the Cabinet and two thirds of each house of the legislature to override the President's protests that he's fine.

(That section of the law has never been successfully invoked against a President's will, but Reagan biographer Edmund Morris claims that White House Chief of Staff Howard Baker tried. This would have been in 1987, Reagan's Alzheimer's would have been in full swing, and the Cabinet still couldn't agree amongst themselves to initiate action, or so the story goes.)

Imagine the hellish staring contest and absurd backdoor negotiations in smoke-filled romms that would ensue if two thirds of this House and two thirds of this Senate had to agree that Trump had to go, never mind a cabinet that was hand-picked for perceived personal loyalty and a good chunk of whom are the Presidents' relatives and in-laws. It's technically possible, but Trump would have to fuck up far worse than he has so far.
post #12476 of 29697

Exactly.  He'll have to fuck up more.  Right now, as hard as it is to believe, he's a party asset.  That can't go on forever, can it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can it?

post #12477 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post

Exactly.  He'll have to fuck up more.  Right now, as hard as it is to believe, he's a party asset.  That can't go on forever, can it?






Can it?

If by "forever" you mean "until the end of the world," then yes. It can go on forever.
post #12478 of 29697

So the FBI's Russia inquiry includes an investigation of Breitbart and InfoWars.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/breitbart-and-infowars-under-investigation-for-ties-to-russia-report/

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Delicious!
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Wooooow
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Well I'm shocked.
post #12482 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post

It's damnably difficult to overthrow a sitting President through peaceful means, or else it would have happened more often in our nation's history than it has. 

 

Well, it's happened 44 times in our history, but I take your point.  Of all the possible ends of the Trump admin, the 25th Amendment is the least likely to come to pass.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
 

I have a friend who thinks that, down to the level of Trump having his tweets vetted by media experts and timed perfectly.  Mind you, he thought that Trump was an anti-ringer designed to turn the GOP nomination toward Jeb Bush, and I don't hear much about that these days.  Whatever happens, it's all part of the plan.  But he can't explain how making everyone hate them will cement their hold on power.   

 

Me, I think Republicans are letting Trump have free reign as long as he keeps signing their odious legislation, then they'll ditch him for Pence; basically using what's at hand to their advantage then coming to the rescue when the public have had enough.  This assumes that whatever turns up between the Trump campaign and Russia doesn't take Pence down as well.  He was part of the campaign, after all.

 

So which one of us do you think is wrong?

 

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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
 

Exactly.  He'll have to fuck up more.  Right now, as hard as it is to believe, he's a party asset.  That can't go on forever, can it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can it?

 

You're right, but I think that the party is really white-knuckling this and continually muttering "he's a party asset, he's a party asset..." as they gnaw their fingernails.  The healthcare bill is a real test; if they can't get it passed with the majorities they currently enjoy, then Ryan, et al. won't be able to avoid asking how exactly he is an asset, again?

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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

 

You're right, but I think that the party is really white-knuckling this and continually muttering "he's a party asset, he's a party asset..." as they gnaw their fingernails.  The healthcare bill is a real test; if they can't get it passed with the majorities they currently enjoy, then Ryan, et al. won't be able to avoid asking how exactly he is an asset, again?

 

It'll pass.  Bet on it.  The nay-sayers will be brow-beaten to pass the fucking thing come hell or high water.

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I can see it barely passing in the House, and then dying in the Senate. Then at least Ryan can blame it's failure on Democrats.

 

As it is now he's asking the House to vote on this updated bill before the CBO numbers come back.

post #12485 of 29697

Yeah, it seems really hard to believe that all 52 Republicans in the Senate will risk their seat for Ryan and Drumpf. These guys value one thing more than PARTY, and that's the guy in the mirror.

 

Ryan's already having to bend over for the Tea Party to ram it through the House. In doing so, he's almost certainly made sure it will never pass the Senate.

post #12486 of 29697
We need 22 of them to say no. Keep calling.

post #12487 of 29697

Republicans inside the Executive and Legislative branches have pretty much exhausted their patience with Trump's Twitter, especially the tweets accusing Obama of a "tapp".

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/trump-obama-wiretap-comey.html?_r=0

post #12488 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Analog Olmos View Post


If by "forever" you mean "until the end of the world," then yes. It can go on forever.


I don't really think Trump wants to destroy the world.  He's a wealthy, greedy man.  If he destroys the world, where will he keep all his stuff?

post #12489 of 29697

The White House apparently had no clue what Comey was going to say yesterday. In fact, they thought he was going to exonerate Trump.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/how-the-white-house-got-james-comey-wrong

post #12490 of 29697

Dems just need to shuffle Gorsuch along, no mechanism to stop the train at this point and the guy is qualified.

But it needs to be paired with a clear argument: that there is now a McConnell Rule in effect, and in order for a SCOTUS nominee to be sent up, one party must control both the Senate and Executive. Its shitty and extra-Constitutional but that's the only way to ever redress the imbalance introduced by McConnells dickery. Dems need to push all the chips in on taking the Senate in 2018, and after that Trump's nominees can get fucked.

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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

Republicans inside the Executive and Legislative branches have pretty much exhausted their patience with Trump's Twitter, especially the tweets accusing Obama of a "tapp".

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/trump-obama-wiretap-comey.html?_r=0

Whoopdee-fuck. I could give a damn about Republican "concerns." If they aren't gonna do anything about it, who cares? As long as they can screw the poor and middle class and get tax cuts for their buddies, they're happy to bend over the nearest stool. 

post #12492 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Raynis View Post

We need 22 of them to say no. Keep calling.

 

Fuck this. I WANT this diseased cat's anus of a healthcare bill to pass both the House and the Senate (which isn't likely) to finally send a message to all the red-state flyover bumblefucks who voted for Trump and these GOP assholes that they're truly not cared about one scintilla, except as a mechanism for keeping these guys in power longer. Real economic pain is the only thing these morons understand, and, just for once, I think they should all have to take a giant, sloppy bite of this shit sandwich like all the rest of us would.

 

Nothing else ever seems to get through to them.

post #12493 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
 


I don't really think Trump wants to destroy the world.  He's a wealthy, greedy man.  If he destroys the world, where will he keep all his stuff?

 

Sure, but he didn't really want to be president either.

post #12494 of 29697
Isnt real economic pain kind of what got us here?
post #12495 of 29697

I think it would be better for Paul Ryan's Ayn Rand fantasy bill to publicly and spectacularly blow up in his face, regardless of the present GOP majority.  Every opposition party member should be screaming that Ryan and his ilk had seven years to turn in their homework and wound up doing it the weekend before on a 5-hour energy shot/coke fueled binge.

post #12496 of 29697
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Originally Posted by mondguy View Post
 

I think it would be better for Paul Ryan's Ayn Rand fantasy bill to publicly and spectacularly blow up in his face, regardless of the present GOP majority.  Every opposition party member should be screaming that Ryan and his ilk had seven years to turn in their homework and wound up doing it the weekend before on a 5-hour energy shot/coke fueled binge.

 

Seconded.  As you said, they had 7 years to come with a better alternative, and what's been presented does indeed look like a rush job.

post #12497 of 29697

What's the worst-case scenario with the ACA repeal?  Because we need to be prepared for that, whatever it is.

post #12498 of 29697
PLANET TERROR-style zombies.
post #12499 of 29697
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post
 

What's the worst-case scenario with the ACA repeal?  Because we need to be prepared for that, whatever it is.

 

More than anything, I think the billing industry will be in complete chaos.  Uninsured people will still be able to show up to the ER for anything and everything, but who to bill for them and for everyone else will be completely unknown.  

post #12500 of 29697
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

 

Sure, but he didn't really want to be president either.

 

Damn.  Thought I was onto something for a second there.

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