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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

 

If Trump isn't already the signal of the end of the American Experiment, a pattern of celebrity billionaire Presidents certainly would have to be.

The notion that the American Republic came to a crashing end and was led by the presidency of DJT, would as a great a historical downfall as the Roman Empire. 

Prepare to enter the Dark Ages everyone. 


Edited by History Buff - 4/29/17 at 3:46pm
post #15402 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Is... is this supposed to be a compliment for Democratic presidents?

 

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/858419293599477762

 

 

Imagine the opinions Fox News has of its audience.

 

"Cause and effect is a liberal lie!  I'll prove it by accelerating my car towards that solid wall!"

post #15403 of 41349

So instead of going to the White House Press Correspondent's Dinner, Trump threw a rally today to mark his 100 days... where he whined about the White House Press Correspondent's Dinner.

 

Also, someone threw a ton of Russian flags in the air right in front of the press cameras:

 

https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/status/858473871812341760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fawardswatch.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3F43154-Current-US-Politics-Thread-(100)-Days-of-Bummer%2Fpage2

post #15404 of 41349

You take away his bluster he's nothing but a thin skinned coward who has never had to fight for anything in his life.

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He inspires fuckups. Fuckups look at him and go, "Look at how far that fuckup got and he's a fuckup! I can do anything 'cause I'm also a fuckup!"
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Milo Yiannapolous *allegedly* received $12M from a mysterious (to us) donor for some new venture, so I think we've entered the era of the successful fuck-up. He may or may not be lying, but if he isn't, I'd like to know what asshole thinks he's worth that kind of investment.
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Trump invited admitted murderer Rodrigo Duterte to the White House:

 

https://twitter.com/JessicaHuseman/status/858517683196887040

 

 

One day, this administration is attacking New York City for gang murders.  A few days later, a hand is extended to a murdering dictator.

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His mind really is starting to go: his vocabulary was far bigger before, and he's even quite eloquent and engaging as a speaker. You obviously get a sense of his insecurity and desperate need to show off, but it's clear he's aware that making it transparently clear would be a bad thing. 

post #15409 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

 

If Trump isn't already the signal of the end of the American Experiment, a pattern of celebrity billionaire Presidents certainly would have to be.


Zuckerberg could throw his entire fortune at the race, and be the most eloquent of speakers (he isn't) who debates circles around everyone (he wouldn't) and he would never, ever win for the most shallow of reasons:  He still looks like the kid that gets shoved into a locker in-between classes.  He wouldn't be "manly" enough to be President.

 

That and "-berg."  It's painful to say but anti-semitism really does still run pretty deep in a lot of the US.  In either case running Zuckerberg is a sure-fire way for Trump to get re-elected in 2020.

 

If the Dems are insistent on having a celebrity billionaire presidential candidate (I'd like to think they're not) they'd be better off looking at Mark Cuban.  At the very least he would be able to hold his own against Trump in the "big personality" war.  Zuckerberg's a smart guy but he makes Hillary Clinton look naturalistic and charismatic.

post #15410 of 41349
Oprah could also smash Trump in an election. I'd vote for her and I genuinely don't like her.
post #15411 of 41349

White Power Skinhead just chillin at Trump rally. Also looks like a lot of empty seats.
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Originally Posted by WendellEverett View Post

Oprah could also smash Trump in an election. I'd vote for her and I genuinely don't like her.

I actually believe that too and im not kidding.

post #15413 of 41349
Just saw Pence on MTP say that Trump is reaching out to the other side every single day. What planet has he been living on? He knows the reaching out is more than just SAYING we need to come together, right? At some point you actually have to listen to your counterparts in Washington and put forth policy that includes them.

These fucking guys.
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Thread Starter 

So now some Alt Righers are forming their own groups of thugs to beat the shit out of the Left Wing thugs who beat the shit out of Trump supporters at places like Berkeley:

 

http://nypost.com/2017/04/27/alt-right-group-tries-to-build-small-street-army/

 

Meanwhile some new polls find 20% of Trump Supporters are totally cool if it's proven that Russia materially effected the outcome of the last election:

 

http://www.salon.com/2017/04/28/20-percent-of-republicans-are-completely-okay-with-the-trump-campaigns-possible-collusion-with-russia/

 

BUT, 55% of those in another poll would not vote for Trump again:

 

http://time.com/4756987/fox-news-poll-donald-trump-100-days-re-elect/

 

Finally, Andrew Sullivan is reassured that The Constitution is holding up, but still thinks things would be worse if Clinton had won:

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/sullivan-maybe-america-wasnt-crazy-to-elect-donald-trump.html

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Ha, those Nazi twerps think Trump has their back. Riiight.
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Originally Posted by WendellEverett View Post


White Power Skinhead just chillin at Trump rally. Also looks like a lot of empty seats.

 

We also have these alt-right yahoos:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-members-alt-appear-white-164630333.html

 

 

They're claiming it's just the "okay" symbol.  They're not the first people/animated frog this year to do choose the "okay" symbol, which just so happens to mirror a white power one:

 

 

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Hey, Nazis, show us the diameter of your assholes.
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

 

Finally, Andrew Sullivan is reassured that The Constitution is holding up, but still thinks things would be worse if Clinton had won:

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/sullivan-maybe-america-wasnt-crazy-to-elect-donald-trump.html

 

Sullivan's hatred of Clinton has warped his brain. Just consider this throwaway sentence from the linked piece:

 

"The press has done its job of fact-checking, exposing, and opposing those in power (yes, Mr. Bannon, that is one part of its function in a democracy)."

 

If by the press he means the NYT and Washington Post, then maybe - maybe - we could agree and keep reading. But this thread alone documents how many times over the last two years the press has not done its fucking job (including the orgasms of joy expressed when Trump launched missies into Syria).

 

Just makes me sad. I read Sullivan's blog during Obama's primary and candidacy runs in 2008 and it was awesome. Based on this and his last few articles, I don't miss him and I really do think his blind hatred of HRC unhinges him to frightening degrees.

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Thread Starter 

Yeah I read a post Election round table with him and he was pretty rabid about the Clintons. 

 

I guess I'm out of "that" mainstream: I can't think of any public figure that I truly hate (no not even Trump). I DO hate specific things politicians do or say, but I don't think we ever really know these people as people. We see a construct based on their own PR efforts, those of their supporters and enemies. 

 

On the other hand, I genuinely like Obama and wouldn't mind chilling out with him, drinking some beers and watching some Deep Space Nine episodes. 

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

 

Sullivan's hatred of Clinton has warped his brain. Just consider this throwaway sentence from the linked piece:

 

"The press has done its job of fact-checking, exposing, and opposing those in power (yes, Mr. Bannon, that is one part of its function in a democracy)."

 

If by the press he means the NYT and Washington Post, then maybe - maybe - we could agree and keep reading. But this thread alone documents how many times over the last two years the press has not done its fucking job (including the orgasms of joy expressed when Trump launched missies into Syria).

 

Just makes me sad. I read Sullivan's blog during Obama's primary and candidacy runs in 2008 and it was awesome. Based on this and his last few articles, I don't miss him and I really do think his blind hatred of HRC unhinges him to frightening degrees.

 

He did vote for her, and wrote many times that a vote for Drumpf was a vote for fascism over democracy. He also wrote that he became a citizen after the election as a statement of devotion to America surviving the next four years.

 

 

But even people we often agree with can stake wrongheaded claims without it making them crazy or our enemy.

post #15421 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
 

Yeah I read a post Election round table with him and he was pretty rabid about the Clintons. 

 

I guess I'm out of "that" mainstream: I can't think of any public figure that I truly hate (no not even Trump). I DO hate specific things politicians do or say, but I don't think we ever really know these people as people. We see a construct based on their own PR efforts, those of their supporters and enemies. 

 

On the other hand, I genuinely like Obama and wouldn't mind chilling out with him, drinking some beers and watching some Deep Space Nine episodes. 

 

 

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Thread Starter 

Now to the REAL news...IVANKA's first 100 Days!

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I think we've found our cast for the Fast and Furious reboot #717bikelife
post #15425 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
 

 

He did vote for her, and wrote many times that a vote for Drumpf was a vote for fascism over democracy. He also wrote that he became a citizen after the election as a statement of devotion to America surviving the next four years.

 

 

But even people we often agree with can stake wrongheaded claims without it making them crazy or our enemy.

These two statements are contradictory.

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Another one down, waaaaaay too many to go.

 

Sebastian Gorka to accept position outside White House: report

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Yikes. Gorka is only 46. Guess those are city miles.
post #15428 of 41349

 Yesterday on MSNBC that had a group of five people in a restaurant to discuss what they thought about Trump. One dude said that the election is over and people should just accept that Trump won and let him be President. First off that is not how our system of government works. There are checks and balances to make sure one branch doesn't have too much power. The judges who have overturned Trump's Muslim bans aren't just mad that Hillary lost, there following the Constitution. Second, the GOP never accepted that Obama had won. Since this is an informed crowd I don't have to give examples. Lastly, if Hillary had won, the GOP wouldn't have accepted it and worked with her, they would have been just as obstructionists as they where with Obama.

 

  I read Sullivan's article. There is no doubt in my mind that she would be handling North Korea better than Trump.

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The same people who say that we should just accept that Trump is president are probably all fucking former Birthers.
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

Another one down, waaaaaay too many to go.

 

Sebastian Gorka to accept position outside White House: report

"outside White House" = "He's really not going anywhere."

They're just moving these assholes around to make it seem like they're doing something. He's "gone" the same way Bannon is.

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After reading this, I have (at least for now) hope that we will survive Trump; as long as he doesn't start WWIII with North Korea.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-america-survived-trumps-first-100-days-w479464

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So, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell had to go, hat in hand, to the Democrats to get funding to keep the government open until September.

 

The deal, as it currently stands, does not include funding for Trump's beloved wall - in fact, it does increase border security spending, but that money is specifically forbidden from being used to build the wall.


But y'know what DOES get federal funding in the bill? Planned Parenthood. Also funded? Sanctuary cities. And 99% of the current EPA budget.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congress-reaches-deal-to-keep-government-open-through-september/2017/04/30/5f58e9d2-2df7-11e7-9dec-764dc781686f_story.html
 

Such negotiation. Such art of deal.

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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
 

These two statements are contradictory.

 

Then I paraphrased them poorly.

 

He wrote an article explaining that while many were asking him why he'd even want to become a citizen now, that he was not ready to give up just because democracy failed for one day.

 

Here's the link. It's a good read.

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/andrew-sullivan-becoming-american-in-age-of-trump.html

 

We have to resist the urge to paint people that are idealogically on our side as faux or nearly as bad as the truly heinous creeps out there. Sullivan was on Maher a few weeks back, and I realized I only agreed with either of those guys on about 75% of big topics and would probably get into a raging tirade with them over the other 25%... and they're still voices I want to hear.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html

My god it's like the title of an Onion article. 

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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

So, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell had to go, hat in hand, to the Democrats to get funding to keep the government open until September.

 

The deal, as it currently stands, does not include funding for Trump's beloved wall - in fact, it does increase border security spending, but that money is specifically forbidden from being used to build the wall.


But y'know what DOES get federal funding in the bill? Planned Parenthood. Also funded? Sanctuary cities. And 99% of the current EPA budget.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congress-reaches-deal-to-keep-government-open-through-september/2017/04/30/5f58e9d2-2df7-11e7-9dec-764dc781686f_story.html
 

Such negotiation. Such art of deal.

 

 

Cheeto never specified which party would get tired of 'winning'.

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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post

 

He did vote for her, and wrote many times that a vote for Drumpf was a vote for fascism over democracy. He also wrote that he became a citizen after the election as a statement of devotion to America surviving the next four years.

 

 

But even people we often agree with can stake wrongheaded claims without it making them crazy or our enemy.

 

I feel we're talking a bit past each other. Sullivan's not my enemy, and I don't think he's "crazy." I do think he quickly and easily loses perspective when it comes to HRC. I read Sullivan for years, so this isn't an opinion based on a single blog post or article. 

 

Frankly, I just think he's pretty irrelevant now. He peaked with Obama's first run - he was obviously and joyfully inspired by Obama. I don't wish him ill at all or anything. Ijust don't find his viewpoint terribly illuminating or helpful these days.

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Obligatory mention that Sullivan defended publishing actual racist Charles Murray, and then got all offended when Ta-Nehisi Coates called him on it. 

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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

Obligatory mention that Sullivan defended publishing actual racist Charles Murray, and then got all offended when Ta-Nehisi Coates called him on it. 

 

Oh, man, that's right. Murray wrote The Bell Curve, right? Not Sullivan's finest hour(s).

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

 

Oh, man, that's right. Murray wrote The Bell Curve, right? Not Sullivan's finest hour(s).

 

Yuuuuuppp, and Sullivan excerpted it at when he was running (home of Stephen Glass) TNR. 

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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html

My god it's like the title of an Onion article. 

from the Guardian-

:

On his 100th day in office on Saturday, facing historically low popularity ratings, a succession of intractable foreign crises and multiple investigations of his links with Moscow, Donald Trump reminded the nation that 1 May was Loyalty Day.

 

The day is a US tradition dating back to the cold war, when it was a bolster to stop May Day becoming a rallying point for socialists and unionised workers, but for an embattled president learning politics on the job it has an added resonance.

 

In an interview with Fox News to mark the 100-day mark, he declared himself “disappointed” with congressional Republicans, despite his many “great relationships” with them.

 

He blamed the constitutional checks and balances built in to US governance. “It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/trump-blames-constitution-for-first-100-days-chaos-presidency

 

 

DJT either needs to resign and/or be removed from office....preferably by force.

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As I said, Sullivan was a good intro for me into political blogs (and blogging, period). And being a fan of his was instrumental in my doing a hard shift to the left culturally and politically (as was the Savage Love column). His...excitably, though, and HUGE blind spots make him, for me, not helpful or productive reading these days. 

 

I do remember him posting about Murray and doing some neo-apologia for the arguments presented there. Very bad! as our current Cheeto-in-chief would say.

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And also Sad!

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I don't normally cite this page but since they provide the source vid/audio from a network interview....

 

Trump's administration continues to 'consider' abolishing or changing the First Amendment.

 

1. What a fucking crybaby

2. Why is this not being talked about by EVERY credible news organization?

3. Once again, we have Trump acting like a king. Or expressing a desire to be king instead of an accountable public servant with hard limitations to his power. Which isn't the surprising or upsetting part. I mean, that's just Cheeto being Cheeto. What is infuriating and depressing is that his supporters eat this shit up. People who claim to love the Constitution yet somehow seem to completely forget the context in which it was written: to set up a government which would make royalty or a despot impossible - to set up a government which purposefully constrains the executive branch (all three, really) to prevent the U.S. from becoming a de facto monarchy. 

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Okay, now, seriously, how far beyond the limits of his power does this sleazoid have to reach before getting impeached? Because fucking hell.
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Trump's solicitor general basically got laughed out of the Supreme Court last week for suggesting citizenship could be taken away, and all the justices seemed to agree that it was sacrosanct. Good luck going after the first amendment, buddy. 
 

So today so far, Trump:

 

1. Walked out of an interview with CBS reporter and fashion icon John "J-Diz" Dickerson when asked about his wiretapping tweets.

 

2. Said Andrew Jackson was a "swashbuckler."

 

3. About the Civil War, asked "why couldn't that have been worked out?" 

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BUT HER EMAILS!

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My god... the constitution comments.  How are conservatives not losing their shit over this?

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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

My god... the constitution comments.  How are conservatives not losing their shit over this?

 

Because they are spineless cowards whose hypocrisy knows no limits? 

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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

My god... the constitution comments.  How are conservatives not losing their shit over this?


Because the sanctity of the Constitution pales compared to the need to continue marginalizing brown people.  They can go back and "fix" things once they've eradicated any opposition to their policies and threats to their Whiteness.

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