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I just keep picturing Trump's portrait alongside all the other Presidents in U.S. history.  My brain breaks every time I do it.  The entire history of this country feels diminished.

 

Small comfort, but I would bet money as this fat man baby exploits and rapes the land we'll finally get a big screen adaptation of Blood Meridian.  I just hope we get a decent, non-James Franco version.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
 

Dan Carlin and his Common Sense weighs in. Definitely worth a listen...

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/5/f/7/5f78812b511d83e8/cswdcd11.mp3?c_id=13310404&expiration=1479017044&hwt=919d84a41c0fea19e1eb1cd84ee4c769

Thanks very much for this. His take on Trump's prospective cabinet made me laugh: "He's not draining the swamp, he's refilling the swamp with old swamp water!"

post #304 of 40742
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post


Hopefully the code is like "P@55w0rd."

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post

Dan Carlin and his Common Sense weighs in. Definitely worth a listen...

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/5/f/7/5f78812b511d83e8/cswdcd11.mp3?c_id=13310404&expiration=1479017044&hwt=919d84a41c0fea19e1eb1cd84ee4c769

There's not a single day that goes by that I don't listen to Dan Carlin (I seriously have his Hardcore History shows on a continuous loop) but it's worth noting that this was a very, very close loss - not a repudiation.

Clinton is on track to win more votes than Obama in 2012. It just happens that they weren't in the right places.

To be clear, I'm not saying I oppose a complete overhaul of the Democratic Party to something resembling the pre- Bill Clinton era, rather if the goal is winning in 2020 I'm not 100% convinced it's necessary.
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Only one of those stories happened after Election Day.

 

So what? Trump's campaign has been courting Alt Right and White Supremacists for over a year. 

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Now the Alt Right is hoping to be part of the Trump Administration:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-alt-right-used-to-be-ignored-now-theyre-courting-a-president-elect/2016/11/10/746341d8-a75b-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html?wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

 

Funny how these people don't know their history. Trump used them to get into office. Now he doesn't need them anymore.

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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

I just keep picturing Trump's portrait alongside all the other Presidents in U.S. history.  My brain breaks every time I do it.  

If you know the history of your presidents, and you know about the many bastards and buffoons who have won the position, it really shouldn't.

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If you know the history of your presidents, and you know about the many bastards and buffoons who have won the position, it really shouldn't.

 

Thanks, professor.

 

But unless you want to write in some detail how the election isn't really that different from previous eras, and that President Elect Trump is actually very similar to the candidacies of President X, Y, and Z, I'm still going to go with the idea that we've never had a guy in office who has had such little experience, so few good qualities, and this much potential to wreck shit.  And more to the point for the phenomenon I was describing, we've never had a President who was basically just a cheesy celebrity.  A game show host.  A guy who sells cheap things to suckers on late night TV with a fake tan and a phony smile.  Which is what I can't wrap my head around with regard to the portrait thing. 

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Yeah, I wonder what rascally Vine star will be the Republican nominee in 2024.
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Coming to terms with the reality of it has required a myriad of cognitive gymnastics.

My brain: "Donald Trump will be the next president"

Me: "That can't be right. Check again."

My brain: "No, really! There was an election and everything."

Me: "Am I dreaming?"

My brain: "Nope. You're awake, fella"

Me: "Am I in a movie? An alternate dimension?"

My brain: "No, guy"

Me:"Shit"

My brain: "Yep"
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Guys, good news, Paul Ryan said today that Trump isn't planning a deportation force:

 

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/paul-ryan-donald-trumps-not-planning-deportation-force/

 

Nice!  Good to hear that the Donald is completely backing away from that campaign promi......oh, wait, Trump has this interview today:

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-finally-reveals-just-how-many-people-hes-going-to-deport-as-president/

 

Nope, he wants to deport two, possibly three million people.

 

Also, all that racism we've been seeing from Republicans since Trump announced his candidacy?  Ryan said that racism isn't coming from Republicans:

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/we-are-the-party-of-lincoln-paul-ryan-claims-racist-incidents-post-election-arent-by-republicans/

 

Huh, I guess all those articles from conservative, Jewish writers we've seen since last year's summer about the right's problems with anti-Semitism and racism will be continued to be ignored by Republican leadership.  I can't say I'm surprised.  In the meantime, those conservative writers who weren't thrilled whatsoever with Trump's language that often resembled anti-Semitic phrases, the Holocaust pictures there were inundated with by Trump supporters on a routine basis and Trump's retweets of literal white supremacists will continue unabated. 

 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Originally Posted by Art Decade View Post

Coming to terms with the reality of it has required a myriad of cognitive gymnastics.

My brain: "Donald Trump will be the next president"

Me: "That can't be right. Check again."

My brain: "No, really! There was an election and everything."

Me: "Am I dreaming?"

My brain: "Nope. You're awake, fella"

Me: "Am I in a movie? An alternate dimension?"

My brain: "No, guy"

Me:"Shit"

My brain: "Yep"

 

My internal dialogue has been similar, except that there's a third guy in the background, pulling out his hair and interrupting every line with, "What the fuck?!?"

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I suspect I'll be using this quote a LOT in the next four years:

 

“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”


― Theodore Roosevelt

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The Left is pissed and worried and looking for answers. They'll eventually settle down and (hopefully) get focused. Clinton is done and Stein is done (though she never really started) so two figureheads of different sides of the same ideology are no longer a distraction. What we have left is Warren, Sanders, Booker and Obama if he decides to stay in the game to fight the Republicans (he will).
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The Left is pissed and worried and looking for answers. They'll eventually settle down and (hopefully) get focused. Clinton is done and Stein is done (though she never really started) so two figureheads of different sides of the same ideology are no longer a distraction. What we have left is Warren, Sanders, Booker and Obama if he decides to stay in the game to fight the Republicans (he will).
I think you could add Diamond Joe to the defenders of the Democratic Party going forward.
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So what? Trump's campaign has been courting Alt Right and White Supremacists for over a year. 


Because the very first sentence of your initial point was this:

 

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 The scariest thing about Trump winning is how it's empowered the White Supremeists to act out:

I dunno, I kinda thought that the examples would be pertinent to that point. My bad.

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So, Priebus and fucking white-nationalist Bannon as some weird White House double act.
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Even Dick Cheney is shaking his head at these appointments....while strangling a kitten.

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Even Dick Cheney is shaking his head at these appointments....while strangling a kitten.

 

How else is he supposed to climax?

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Bannon looks like the kind of guy who has at least a dozen male or female prostitutes buried under his crawlspace.

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Actual thing I would expect to read if I wanted to torture myself and search Twitter right now:

 

"Don't let Zionist media tell you Steve Bannon is an anti-Semite."

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Bannon looks like the kind of guy who has at least a dozen male or female prostitutes buried under his crawlspace.


Dude attacked his ex-wife for making noise in the middle of the night feeding their kids. He probably rents a separate house to keep dead hookers in.

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Considering Trump's record with the ladies I'd say he has no problem with having Bannon lurking around the White House like some goosestepping, hunchbacked version of Wormtongue.

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Considering Trump's record with the ladies I'd say he has no problem with having Bannon lurking around the White House like some goosestepping, hunchbacked version of Wormtongue.

 

Giuliani already nabbed that position.

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60 Minutes' interview with Trump is about to begin. Going to see how much I can stomach.

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Oh that should be full of seventeen levels of pure bullshit.

post #329 of 40742

Seven minutes in and it is, so far. Stahl is lobbing nothing but softballs with the answers contained in the questions.

post #330 of 40742

Like I said elsewhere the news media are now working hard to normalize Orange Soda Hitler's win and what he represents. It's disgusting.

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Stahl just asked him about having lobbyists on his transition team. He's claiming that's "all there is down there" and he'll "transition them out."

 

Riiiiiiiiiight.

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He just referred to the "gun situation." 

 

I weep for the world.

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Do these people in tv news just not have consciences?

You should read the clippings from NYT from the early 30's about how Hitler's anti-Semitic populism "isn't serious."

It's scary.
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He's now claiming to not have heard about any of the incidents wherein Trump supporters harassed people. He first said no, then said he'd heard about maybe one or two, and looked at the camera and said "Stop doing that."

 

So...credit for telling them to stop? But either bullshit or WTF on him not hearing about it. He's either lying or he's been kept insulated from news. Neither is a good option.

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Do these people in tv news just not have consciences?

 

With the exception of asking about the lobbyists on his transition team, Stahl looks more like she's interviewing a movie star rather than the newly elected political leader of the United States.

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He's now claiming to not have heard about any of the incidents wherein Trump supporters harassed people. He first said no, then said he'd heard about maybe one or two, and looked at the camera and said "Stop doing that."

 

So...credit for telling them to stop? But either bullshit or WTF on him not hearing about it. He's either lying or he's been kept insulated from news. Neither is a good option.

 

He's lying and he doesn't give a fuck about those people either.  He got what he wanted.

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Just asked about appointing a special prosecutor. 

 

His answer: "I'll think about it."

 

And then says he wants to focus on jobs first instead.

 

And now saying he doesn't want to hurt them, they're good people, but she (HRC) did bad things.

 

He's fucking incoherent.

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Who would've guessed that the first president who was directly involved in social media would be a 70 year old Baby Boomer? Trump won't say he'll stop tweeting as president.

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He got what he wanted.


I doubt that. What he wanted was Trump TV. Now he's on this other crappy TV show called America.
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It is 1000 percent absolutely clear that the LAST thing Trump wanted was four years of hard work in public service.  He loves the rallies and the attention and DETESTS hard work, that much is absolutely clear.  Expect lots of whining about how great his life used to be.

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He's fucking incoherent.

 

What, did you think he somehow found some Potion of Intelligence in the last week or so?

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Who would've guessed that the first president who was directly involved in social media would be a 70 year old Baby Boomer? Trump won't say he'll stop tweeting as president.

I, for one, look forward to his Fireside Tweets. #Hitlersux
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What, did you think he somehow found some Potion of Intelligence in the last week or so?

 

Heh.

 

No, it's just that every time I hear him speak I cannot fucking believe anyone thinks he's presidential material.

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Heh.

 

No, it's just that every time I hear him speak I cannot fucking believe anyone thinks he's presidential material.

 

Well, don't forget, nobody wants an elitist know-it-all in one of the most difficult jobs in the world, because god forbid anyone feel inferior...

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Because the very first sentence of your initial point was this:

 

I dunno, I kinda thought that the examples would be pertinent to that point. My bad.

 

 

But this is a process. I wasn't saying the Gates of Intolerance opened on Election night. Hell, violent incidents have been occurring at Trump rallies for over a year.

 

But on the other hand....

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442155/donald-trump-executive-power-left-loves-constitutional-checks-balances-again

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Trump also espoused support - or at least acceptance - of marriage equality, saying it's a done deal, the court decided it.

 

Which, you know, I thought was the case with Roe v Wade as well, but what the fuck do I know?

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Oh, and he said he'd release his tax returns "at the appropriate time." I.e., never.

 

He pointed out, essentially correctly, that it wasn't important to the voters. At least Stahl asked. I think this one's on us.

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I'm seeing articles about how Jon Stewart's absence may have affected the outcome of the election. I sometimes think Stewart's influence might be overstated, but sometimes not. What some of these people writing these articles are neglecting to mention is that Stewart was / is not a fan of Hillary Clinton. That said, no, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that having Stewart's generalship this cycle might have had a positive effect on the outcome.
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And his influence on the re-election of Bush?

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I think doing The Daily Show during this cycle would've broken Stewart. He may have been able to nudge some over, but I'm pretty sure one of the reasons he left the gig was a feeling of futility. The last 18 months have been a long, expensive exercise in futility for the left.

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