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post #31801 of 32694

I think that it's actually fairly likely Roberts will find his soul, or at least, stand in opposition to Gorsuch to mitigate some, if not all, of the damage. Gorsuch is already very disliked there, it seems - please see how they went out of their way to smack him down during his hearing.  And I think partisan gerrymandering has a real chance of being ruled unconstitutional if it makes it to the court. 

 

Optimism! 

post #31802 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

I think that it's actually fairly likely Roberts will find his soul, or at least, stand in opposition to Gorsuch to mitigate some, if not all, of the damage. Gorsuch is already very disliked there, it seems - please see how they went out of their way to smack him down during his hearing.  And I think partisan gerrymandering has a real chance of being ruled unconstitutional if it makes it to the court. 

Optimism! 
I hope you're right.

The court's ruling yesterday to hold on redrawing Texas' nakedly racist districts bummed me the fuck out.
post #31803 of 32694

The thing to remember is that Roberts is consciously aware and very concerned about the reputation of the Court as a non-partisan body that's not aligned with any particular party. This is ultimately why he punted on the ACA both times, because he knew that after BushVGore and Citizens United, there was real danger of the court getting a reputation as a Republican front. And despite being Republican himself, he deeply wants to avoid the Court's reputation being "stained" like that. And while he should have spoken out about the way they were fucking Merrick Garland, I think he knows that's a stolen seat, and the country sees it like that, too. So I think that's going to shape his thinking even more, going forward. 

post #31804 of 32694

Even though Roberts did "save" the ACA, he couldn't resist kneecapping it as a parting gift. He's the reason the Medicaid expansion was opt-in at the sole discretion of states' governors. Otherwise, it would have been automatically available nationwide.

post #31805 of 32694

You nice folks are WAY more optimistic than I am that anything is ever going to stick to these monsters.

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You nice folks are WAY more optimistic than I am that anything is ever going to stick to these monsters.

 

I don't know, seems to be sticking to Flynn pretty good. 

post #31807 of 32694

Yeah, people are going to go down for this.  The only thing concerning me was the whole pardoning thing, but it seems like the involvement of the NYAG (and other AGs) has kinda nullified that issue.

post #31808 of 32694

Roberts is a corporatist stooge. He cares about the image of the Court, yes, absolutely. That has no bearing on the actual substance of the Court.

post #31809 of 32694

I still don't see a House impeachment vote happening before the 2018 elections. But if the Dems take the House, I could absolutely see proceedings being started against Pence as well.

 

Now there's practically a zero chance that the Dems get enough votes in the senate to oust Pence. But if Drumpf is sent packing and Pence has to take a grilling, he'd be a lame duck before he was even sworn in.

post #31810 of 32694
http://thehill.com/blogs/350406-dems-flip-two-seats-in-special-state-elections#

Two more special election wins for House seats for the Dems. Both districts were won by Trump by double digits.
post #31811 of 32694

Flynn's son now being investigated in federal Russia probe - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mike-flynn-s-son-subject-federal-russia-probe-n800741

 

lol

post #31812 of 32694
Thing I learned today: Flynn's son looks suspiciously like a younger clone of his father. I think it's very possible that reality is beginning to intersect with Metal Gear Solid, folks.
post #31813 of 32694
The only Solid Snake these guys will be seeing will be in prison showers.
post #31814 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Flynn's son now being investigated in federal Russia probe - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mike-flynn-s-son-subject-federal-russia-probe-n800741

 

lol

 

Don't ever forget: Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity.  He's got dirt and is willing to say it for the right inducement.  Going after his son MIGHT be the right inducement.

post #31815 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post

The only Solid Snake these guys will be seeing will be in prison showers.

 

BOO THIS MAN. 

(this was pretty good)

post #31816 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post

 

Don't ever forget: Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity.  He's got dirt and is willing to say it for the right inducement.  Going after his son MIGHT be the right inducement.

Flynn Sr. recently refused a new request to speak before the Senate Intelligence Committee - http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/politics/michael-flynn-senate-subpoena-refusal/index.html 

I remember Laurence Tribe tweeting this after the Arpaio pardon:

 

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Laurence Tribe
Arpaio's pardon for his contempt conviction tells guys like Flynn & Manifort they needn't obey a subpoena to testify for Mueller grand jury!

I guess the big question is: Do Flynn Sr. and Manafort have faith Trump will be in a position to pardon them when the time comes?

post #31817 of 32694

Flynn refusing to testify before (possibly compromised) congressional panels might be a feature and not a bug. It doesn't indicate he's being uncooperative w/ Mueller. 

post #31818 of 32694

Trump's nominee for #2 at FEMA withdraws because, get this, he's a corrupt idiot - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-fema-nominee-withdraws-after-nbc-questions-falsified-records-n800856 

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I noticed this also and I'm willing to bet a large amount of Internet dollars that it's so his booze-infused pit stains don't bleed through his clothes.

post #31821 of 32694
Steve Bannon looks like Fred Flintstone's corpse.
post #31822 of 32694

Steve Bannon looks like he was recruited for the Shunting, but they stopped midway through. 

post #31823 of 32694
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Thing I learned today: Flynn's son looks suspiciously like a younger clone of his father. I think it's very possible that reality is beginning to intersect with Metal Gear Solid, folks.

When Fucking Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance predicted the whole MAGA thing, I was in disbelief.

I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out Steve Bannon is a Snatcher, and that we all live in Kojima's game simulation.

post #31824 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

 

Don't ever forget: Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity.  He's got dirt and is willing to say it for the right inducement.  Going after his son MIGHT be the right inducement.

 

"Everyone has pressure points, Barnes.  You find something that's personally important to someone, and you...squeeze"

 

                                                                                                                                                     -Eugene Kittridge, Director IMF

post #31825 of 32694
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When Fucking Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance predicted the whole MAGA thing, I was in disbelief.

I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out Steve Bannon is a Snatcher, and that we all live in Kojima's game simulation.

 

MGS2 came out when I was 13 and, while I loved it (it was one of those wonderful bits of media that really expands a young teenager's imagination), I only had a vague understanding of the 'digital information control' theme. A few of the agonisingly long codec conversations are unbelievably prescient for a game released in 2001, especially in light of Russia's internet campaign to elect Trump. 

 

 

 

EDIT: I'm not the only one who thinks so! http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/how-metal-gear-solid-2-foretold-our-post-truth-future-w450225

post #31826 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

 

Don't ever forget: Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity.  He's got dirt and is willing to say it for the right inducement.  Going after his son MIGHT be the right inducement.


I think part of the problem is that Mueller et al don't want Flynn to become another Oliver North.  I think he's dirty enough (and enough of a key player) that they want him to be one of the ones that gets taken down.

 

Because let's be honest:  Trump is an idiot, and I have VERY little faith that the Russian collusion with his campaign STARTED with him.  He may well have agreed to it (tacitly or otherwise) and certainly should be called to task for that (to say nothing of obstructing justice in trying to allay the investigations into said activities), but it was guys like Flynn and Manafort that brought it to the table in the first place.

 

This is too important to let key actors off the hook just so you get the single big fish, IMO.  You need to net the whole school, and sure as hell want to nab the trailblazers.

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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
 

 

MGS2 came out when I was 13 and, while I loved it (it was one of those wonderful bits of media that really expands a young teenager's imagination), I only had a vague understanding of the 'digital information control' theme. A few of the agonisingly long codec conversations are unbelievably prescient for a game released in 2001, especially in light of Russia's internet campaign to elect Trump. 

 

 

 

EDIT: I'm not the only one who thinks so! http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/how-metal-gear-solid-2-foretold-our-post-truth-future-w450225

Im actually terrified of what Death Stranding will be about, the way Kojima games seem to predict the future.

What I really hate is that we end up seeing what the guy was predicting far too late.

post #31829 of 32694

At today's daily White House Press Conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders called for Jemele Hill to be fired from her job at ESPN for calling Trump a white supremacist.

 

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/908043680791105542

 

The White House is now openly calling for private citizens who speak out against it to be punished in their personal and professional lives. In any other administration, this would be a scandal for weeks on end.

post #31830 of 32694
To continue the Metal Gear theme. That proposed idea of turning Military operations in the Middle East over to PMC's is literally how Outer Heaven gets created.
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To continue the Metal Gear theme. That proposed idea of turning Military operations in the Middle East over to PMC's is literally how Outer Heaven gets created.


Ugh...no way is Erik Prince as cool as Big Boss....

 

But I could totally see him as Coward Duck.

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At today's daily White House Press Conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders called for Jemele Hill to be fired from her job at ESPN for calling Trump a white supremacist.

 

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/908043680791105542

 

The White House is now openly calling for private female African-American citizens who speak out against it to be punished in their personal and professional lives. In any other administration, this would be a scandal for weeks on end.

ftfy

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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

Steve Bannon looks like he was recruited for the Shunting, but they stopped midway through. 

Heads up . . . SOCIETY is avaliable through Amazon Prime. I've set aside a few hours Friday night to finally sit down to check it out.

Carry on . . .
post #31834 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

At today's daily White House Press Conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders called for Jemele Hill to be fired from her job at ESPN for calling Trump a white supremacist.

 

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/908043680791105542

 

The White House is now openly calling for private citizens who speak out against it to be punished in their personal and professional lives. In any other administration, this would be a scandal for weeks on end.

 

 

There's also this:

 

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 Asked by The Washington Post’s David Nakamura why an influential African American sportscaster might make such a comment, Sanders said, “I’m not going to speak for that individual, but I know that the president has met, again, with people like Senator [Tim] Scott, who are highly respected leaders in the African-American community.”

 

They're not even using the, "He has a black friend!" excuse... they're using the little-invoked, "He talked to a black guy!" excuse.

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There's also this:

 

 

They're not even using the, "He has a black friend!" excuse... they're using the little-invoked, "He talked to a black guy!" excuse.

 

The White House sent out a photo today with the name "Tom Scott" on it:

 

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/908062832373235712

 

post #31836 of 32694

Regarding Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I think someone should ask her what should happen to people who question the president's birthplace.  

post #31837 of 32694
Someone should ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders what it's like being a grown-up Garbage Pail Kid.
post #31838 of 32694

The two hurricanes have financial firms thinking twice about economic growth this year:

 

http://grist.org/briefly/harvey-and-irma-take-a-huge-bite-out-of-the-u-s-economy/

 

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Harvey and Irma take a huge bite out of the U.S. economy. America’s twin hurricane disasters inflicted around $190 billion in direct damages, with lingering economic impacts from lost business adding up to perhaps an additional $100 billion. That’s nearly one-quarter the total of all U.S. natural disasters since 1980.

 

Financial firms Moody’s and Goldman Sachs have already lowered their estimates of overall U.S. economic growth. Goldman Sachs added that as many as 100,000 jobs could be lost as businesses downsize in the wake of the storms.

 

Hundreds of thousands of homeowners in Texas and Florida are expected to fall behind on their mortgage payments, bringing fears of an uptick in foreclosures. About 10 percent of the U.S. population were directly impacted by the storms, according to Goldman Sachs.

 

The combined effect of the two hurricanes will leave an economic toll greater than Hurricane Katrina, the worst natural disaster in U.S. history. Federal agencies have been warning for years of the increasing economic toll of climate-related disasters, and the recent storms fit a pattern of more frequent large-scale weather disasters.

post #31839 of 32694

McConnell is hoping to get rid of more Senate norms that he loved when Obama was president:

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/politics/mcconnell-federal-judges-trump.html?emc=edit_tnt_20170913&nlid=1811197&tntemail0=y&referer=

 

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President Trump is eager to put his conservative imprint on the federal judiciary, but an impediment remains.

 

Though the Senate has virtually eliminated the ability of the minority party to block appointments to the bench from the Supreme Court on down, individual senators can still thwart nominees from their home states by refusing to sign off on a form popularly known for its color — the blue slip.

 

Now, with some Democrats refusing to consent as the Trump administration moves to fill scores of judicial vacancies, Senator Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican and majority leader, is for the first time publicly advocating that the blue slip be made strictly advisory when it comes to appeals court nominees — the most powerful judges after those on the Supreme Court.

 

“My personal view is that the blue slip, with regard to circuit court appointments, ought to simply be a notification of how you’re going to vote, not the opportunity to blackball,” Mr. McConnell said in an interview with The New York Times for “The New Washington” podcast. He said he favored retaining the blue slip authority for lower-level district court judges.

post #31840 of 32694
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

The two hurricanes have financial firms thinking twice about economic growth this year:

 

http://grist.org/briefly/harvey-and-irma-take-a-huge-bite-out-of-the-u-s-economy/

 

 

Yeah here's the thing: There's going to be a SHIT LOAD of Jobs and projects in the Construction industry, plus dry wall, lumber, etc. as the Texas and Florida communities rebuild. 

 

And now a major section of the labor force in those industries is (maybe) gone due to the Trumps Admin's immigration policies. 


Leading to more and higher paying jobs for one of Trump's core constituencies: under employed Blue Collar White people (the other core constituency being Old White People). 


So Trump might actually get a boost from this (that and the fact that he was relatively sane in his response to the disasters). 

post #31841 of 32694

FUCK! I apologize if this isn't in the correct thread or if I ramble more than usual because I'm a bit shaken still. It seemed like the most appropriate place.

 

I hopped into my car and drove a few blocks from work to park and read my book during my break. I parked on the street next to a brewery, but chose to stay in the car since it had begun drizzling. All was good for a bit until I noticed a guy across the street pacing back and forth while on the phone. He was looking at me nervously. I gave him a little, cordial smile and went back to reading my book. A few minutes later, he's at my window knocking.

 

I roll down the window. and he bends down and says, "what are you doing here?"

I say, "Just on break. Reading my book. Am in the way? I can move."

"No, don't move. The cops are on the way."

"The cops are on the way? I'm sorry...?"

"Yeah, they are coming now. I reported you."

"Coming for me? Why? What did I do?"

 

At this point, he gestures to the back of my car, "that."

"I'm sorry. I don't understand."

"Your 'RESIST' sticker. You're one of those antifa pieces of shit aren't you? We won. Get over it."

"Uhhh, no?"

"Yes you are! With your black car and your parking! You're stalking our business and you are planning on attacking us!"

"Uhhhhhh. Sir, I have no clue what you are talking about. I am just here to read my book" as I show him Monsters of Men.

"Monsters of Men?! SEE?!" as he tries to rip the book away from my hands.

 

I pull away from him and he grabs my shirt and seems to attempt to pull me out of the window. I push him away and start my car while he's lunging back in again. Last thing I wanted was a broken window, so I try my best to push him off as I put my car in first gear and try to drive off without hurting him. I shake him off enough and drive down the block and turn.

 

A few blocks later the cops pull me over and I tell them my story. They said they were called to the scene due to a suspicious vehicle. I explained what I was doing there and they made notes. They agreed that I wasn't causing an issue, but recommended I go somewhere else to read in the future. They took down my information and said they would be talking to the guy next. I told them I really had to get back to work. They offered to have a car escort me back to work, but I declined. They said they'd be in touch.

 

I am shaking so much right now. I can barely think straight. My wife is in a training session, so I am sorry to drop this craziness on you guys. I am sorry for the long post. I just had to get it out somewhere.

post #31842 of 32694

Having a bad day? Then Martin Shkreli's misery will be your ecstasy!

 

Wu-Tang and Bill Murray are gonna go fetch back his copy of that one album, right?

post #31843 of 32694
Glad you got away from that paranoiac in one piece, wd40.
post #31844 of 32694

Was just about to post that Shkreli news. So long for now, fucker!

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Thread Starter 

WD40: That's horrible. You might have told that asshole that kidnapping gets you the death penalty. 

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Thread Starter 
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Having a bad day? Then Martin Shkreli's misery will be your ecstasy!

 

Wu-Tang and Bill Murray are gonna go fetch back his copy of that one album, right?

 

Hope he shares a cell with Fabfunk. 

post #31847 of 32694

That's pretty scary, WD. Glad you're ok. I wonder what kind of "business" this loony thought he was protecting from the dreaded Antifa?

post #31848 of 32694

Thanks -- it's so damn surreal. I feel like I'm walking around in a daze right now. That shit feels like it was straight out of a piece of fiction.

post #31849 of 32694
Always a good idea to keep your window rolled up unless there's a cop standing outside it. Glass isn't as easy to break bare-handed as it is in the movies.
post #31850 of 32694

True. Honestly, shame on me for rolling my window down. I really should have known better.

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