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post #33001 of 41349

While Anderson Cooper gets on the ground...

 

 

...Tucker Carlson reads Dr. Seuss.

 

 

No offense to Dr. Seuss, but I'll pass on the latter.

post #33002 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post

By 2020 a lot of Trump's supporters will have lost patience because the nation still has black people and the Lincoln Memorial hasn't been replaced with one for Jefferson Davis, so there's some reduction in Republican voter turnout to look forward to.

 

Despite the fact that Trump's voters have cartoonishly awful views, they still have 'realistic' expectations. They didn't think Trump would get rid of black people, they didn't think he'd erect Confederate monuments. A lot of them hoped that he would 'put blacks in their place' by using the presidential platform to criticise them; a lot of them hoped he'd defend the Confederate legacy. He's done both, and to extremes far beyond that of any mainstream politician - nevermind presidential candidate - would have gone in fifty years.

 

I'm not meaning to rain on any parades, but it's dumb to count Trump out until he walks out from the White House. 


Edited by RexBanner - 9/30/17 at 11:30pm
post #33003 of 41349

Who has stated "I couldn't hate him more".... only to wake up, watch the news and say "Nope, I hate him more today than yesterday" ?

 

There is no basement.

post #33004 of 41349
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
 

 

I'm not meaning to rain on any parades, but it's dumb to count Trump out until he walks out from the White House. 

 

Yeah, he'd probably get nearly that same 28% if we voted today, because Republicanism is a religion, not a political party.

 

Realistically, he's likely to have made some of his voters apathetic about voting, and spiked interest in 2016-no-voters voting against him. His odds of winning against a middling opponent would have to be infinitesimal. Let alone his chances against someone charismatic and smart.

 

But there's 3 years until that election. If Russia never sinks him and the economy does well in 2020, he'd have a chance. Neither is likely, but I want to see his whiny constipated face blubbering over his crushing defeat (whether from votes or impeachment) before I count anything as done.

 

Also, I just want to see his whiny constipated face blubbering over his crushing defeat. Period.

 

I could use a new avatar.

post #33005 of 41349

He's tweeting about the national anthem at a Blackhawks/Blues game now:

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914310901855129601

post #33006 of 41349

I maintain that that Trump won't survive this first term. Alec Baldwin gave an interview a month or so ago on CBS Sunday Morning saying that he believes that Trump will end up being indicted by Mueller.Others (Tony Schwartz) have said essentially the same thing, Trump will cut a deal with Mueller, resign to avoid prosecution. Congress trying to avoid a messy impeachment trial will agree. All this is of course wishful thinking, but it can certainly happen. 

post #33007 of 41349

Pretty dire story from a man whose father is helping in Puerto Rico right now:

 

https://twitter.com/NelsonMRosario/status/914219663369924608

 

"There's a medical center down here, and everyone that was in the Intensive Care Unit, died.  Everyone.  That's just one detail."

 

Eventually, we're going to start getting detailed information on victims, and it could get really bad.

post #33008 of 41349

 I think its a rational belief that Trump Presidency will make those who sat out 2016 because they didn't see a difference go to vote.

 

To those who say they don't want politics mixing with their sports, I say I don't want a reality show host in the White House, but its a reality I have to live with at the moment.  

post #33009 of 41349

Republicans let CHIP expire, by the way:

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-chip-funding-20170929-story.html

 

Quote:

Advocates for children’s health started worrying months ago that congressional incompetence would jeopardize the nation’s one indisputable healthcare success — the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which has reduced the uninsured rate among kids to 5% from 14% over the two decades of its existence.

 

Their fears turned out to be true. Funding for CHIP runs out on Saturday, and no vote on reestablishing the program’s $15-billion appropriation is expected for at least a week, probably longer. That’s the case even though CHIP is one of the few federal programs that has enjoyed unalloyed bipartisan support since its inception in 1997. The consequences will be dire in many states, which will have to curtail or even shut down their children’s health programs until funding is restored. Hanging in the balance is care for 9 million children and pregnant women in low-income households.

 

What happened? The simple answer is that congressional Republicans’ last harebrained attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act got in the way. A funding bill for CHIP seemed to be well on its way to enactment until a week or so ago. That’s when the effort to pass the egregious Cassidy-Graham repeal bill sucked all the air out of the legislative room.

post #33010 of 41349

Iowa is starting to realize you can't trust the things Donald Trump says:

 

http://www.startribune.com/iowa-believes-trump-broke-his-ethanol-pledge/448836183/

 

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As he sought votes during last year’s Iowa caucuses, candidate Donald Trump courted farmers with praise for ethanol and promises that he would boost the homegrown fuel.

 

Now those farmers and other biofuel supporters say the people that Trump has put in charge of the issue in Washington are instead boosting their fossil-fuel rivals.

 

“This seems like a bait-and-switch,” Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said on the Senate floor last week. “Big Oil and oil refineries are prevailing, despite assurances to the ­contrary.”

 

The issue is politically precarious for Trump. It pits the oil industry against Midwest voters who helped elect him. Trump repeatedly vowed to “protect” ethanol. But he loaded his Cabinet with allies of the oil industry, which views the Renewable Fuel Standard that mandates biofuel use as costly and burdensome.

 

Ethanol producers are most vexed by Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency. His agency has pursued a series of changes to help the oil industry at the expense of farmers.

 

“The White House needs to rein in the EPA before the agency tramples the ­president’s rural base — and his promises to voters,” said Brooke Coleman, executive director of the Advanced Biofuels Business Council. “I would be surprised if those in the White House realize the depth of his attacks on the Renewable Fuel Standard.”

post #33011 of 41349
Sad trombone!
post #33012 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post

He's tweeting about the national anthem at a Blackhawks/Blues game now:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914310901855129601
A year old Blues/Blackhawks game at that.
post #33013 of 41349

A story Trump told on Howard Stern's show that perfectly encapsulates who was elected president:

 

https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/913754506038571009

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It really shows how useful he is in a crisis.
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post #33016 of 41349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

A story Trump told on Howard Stern's show that perfectly encapsulates who was elected president:

 

https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/913754506038571009

 

This should be played for every 65+ year-old who voted for him. "Mom, he let a rich old bastard lie bleeding on the floor, then complained about the stained marble! What do you think he would have done for you?"

post #33017 of 41349
A few hours ago, the President took to Twitter to basically gossip that he has told the Secretary of State not to waste any more time with negotiations with North Korea, presumably because the President is going to unleash that bigly fire and fury any day now.

I'm past outrage and well into fatigue. I'm ready for Pence to declare this guy senile and ship him off to a retirement home already.
post #33018 of 41349

Puerto Rican troops are still waiting for orders, and nothing will be happening until FEMA gets there

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/puerto-rican-troops-are-still-waiting-for-orders-while-residents-cry-for-help

 

Quote:

Twenty-eight U.S. Army reservists answered the call of duty, left their families behind, and reported to an abandoned base on the eastern tip of the island.

 

Then they waited for orders.

 

And waited.

 

It was one week before the soldiers heard from the outside world. That is how desperate, how disorganized, the situation in Puerto Rico has been. Try though as he may to deflect blame for the response to Hurricane Maria, President Donald Trump is the commander-in-chief of these soldiers who were marooned while their countrymen needed all the help they could get.

 

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“We’ve been here for a week,” said one of the reservists, who had come from a nearby town. “There is no communication, nothing. We just came here.” 

 

Some of them have still not reached their families in the States to let them know they are alright.

 

“We would have to send someone to San Juan to find out what is going, but there’s no gas, so we wait for someone to come to us. We’ve just been standing by,” the reservist said as nervous uncertainty spreads across each of his comrade’s brows.   

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Thread Starter 

A good take on the NFL "Controversy"

 

https://deadspin.com/this-is-all-bullshit-1818779588

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Kudos to Royal Caribbean for cancelling a cruise and sending the ship to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands:

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/352896-royal-caribbean-cancels-cruise-to-send-ship-on-hurricane-relief

post #33021 of 41349
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by History Buff View Post
 

I maintain that that Trump won't survive this first term. Alec Baldwin gave an interview a month or so ago on CBS Sunday Morning saying that he believes that Trump will end up being indicted by Mueller.Others (Tony Schwartz) have said essentially the same thing, Trump will cut a deal with Mueller, resign to avoid prosecution. Congress trying to avoid a messy impeachment trial will agree. All this is of course wishful thinking, but it can certainly happen. 

 

I think basing your opinion on an Alec Baldwin interview is....a lot of wishful thinking. 

post #33022 of 41349

Trump will be presenting the trophy at the Presidents Cup today, if you were wondering how the optics of this dire situation could possibly get worse:

 

https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/914524997502238721

 

Even when he's not golfing, he's somehow on a golf course.

post #33023 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
 

A good take on the NFL "Controversy"

 

https://deadspin.com/this-is-all-bullshit-1818779588

 

I read/heard something the other day (I hate getting older...)

 

The NFL isn't 'pro-player' so much as it is pro-NFL.  

 

The powers that be in the NFL are looking at this situation from a business point of view and view all this DJT bullshit as bad for business.

 

Doing the right moral thing is secondary to making sure they keep getting paid. 

 

The players are the ones that are pushing this and are on the right side of history here but the majority(?) of owners are only 'onboard' because they don't want their cash cow to take a hit.

 

 

post #33024 of 41349
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

 

I read/heard something the other day (I hate getting older...)

 

The NFL isn't 'pro-player' so much as it is pro-NFL.  

 

The powers that be in the NFL are looking at this situation from a business point of view and view all this DJT bullshit as bad for business.

 

Doing the right moral thing is secondary to making sure they keep getting paid. 

 

The players are the ones that are pushing this and are on the right side of history here but the majority(?) of owners are only 'onboard' because they don't want their cash cow to take a hit.

 

 

Of course, I never thought of it any other way. What way they come down on ANYTHING is about their bottom line. If they had any real morality they would give a shit when their players do terrible things instead of slapping them on the wrist. 

post #33025 of 41349

It's funny hearing how the players are protesting "the flag," like they want the stars to be changed to triangles or something. Or "the anthem," as if they're wanting a song with a better melody. 

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post #33027 of 41349

I love how the term 'chuds' is getting national coverage...I almost feel (wipes away tear...) proud...

 

https://deadspin.com/this-is-all-bullshit-1818779588

 

"Colin Kaepernick took a knee for a specific reason: He was protesting police brutality and the unfair treatment of minorities in this country. And while plenty of CHUDS were happy to mock it as the vacant posturing of a multi-millionaire with nothing on the line, the fact is that not only was he risking something—his career, as it turned out—but it was part of something broader."

True...it's not what we stand for...but a negative, 180, is a START...WHAT SAY YOU, LADS??


Edited by Graham - 10/1/17 at 2:41pm
post #33028 of 41349
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

He's tweeting about the national anthem at a Blackhawks/Blues game now:

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914310901855129601

 

Now to twist the knife a bit more...remember when this guy was President?

 

post #33029 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

It's funny hearing how the players are protesting "the flag," like they want the stars to be changed to triangles or something. Or "the anthem," as if they're wanting a song with a better melody. 

Just as Rosa Parks was protesting buses and Gandhi was protesting food and Mahayana Buddhists were protesting fire.

post #33030 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post

A story Trump told on Howard Stern's show that perfectly encapsulates who was elected president:

https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/913754506038571009

This right here is why we can no longer rely on the fact that another Korean War would easily kill millions as a reason the US would never initiate an attack on NK. Trump would simply not care about this fact or be smart enough to understand that his actions would cause this. He would blame the generals, the soldiers, etc.
post #33031 of 41349
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Trump will be presenting the trophy at the Presidents Cup today, if you were wondering how the optics of this dire situation could possibly get worse:

 

https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/914524997502238721

 

Even when he's not golfing, he's somehow on a golf course.

 

Yes, he made it worse. He "dedicated" the trophy to the people of Puerto Rico ... because, that's what they need right?

 

post #33032 of 41349

At least he got heckled.

post #33033 of 41349

So he's there in a ceremonial position to give the cup away, and he's dedicating the trophy like he won the thing?  Color me shocked.

 

Almost lost in the crassness, the patronizing way he addresses the international players.

post #33034 of 41349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Trump will be presenting the trophy at the Presidents Cup today, if you were wondering how the optics of this dire situation could possibly get worse:

 

https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/914524997502238721

 

Even when he's not golfing, he's somehow on a golf course.

 

Trump's supporters probably think Obama was an awful president because he never dedicated a golf trophy to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

 

You don't have to correct me btw; I'm not that stupid. 

post #33035 of 41349

An active shooter situation in Las Vegas:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/active-shooter-situation-las-vegas-police/story?id=50223240

 

Quote:

Authorities are investigating reports of an active shooter situation near the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas, police said Monday.

 

Officials at the University Medical Center in Las Vegas told ABC News that it had at least 20 victims with gunshot wounds right now, with the number expected to grow. The hospital did not provide information on the victims' conditions.

 

"Please avoid heading to the south end of the Strip," the department said in a Twitter post early Monday. "Las Vegas Blvd is shut down at Tropicana, southbound past Russell Rd at this time." 

 

The Las Vegas Police Department said people should avoid the area.

 

"They were firing from somewhere high, and they were unloading clip after clip after clip after clip," a witness told Nathan O'Neal, a reporter for a local news station, KSNV News. "It was hundreds of shots." 

 

Damn.

post #33036 of 41349

Possibly multiple shooters. The Las Vegas PD twitter has said one suspect is confirmed down.

post #33037 of 41349

The sounds I'm hearing in those videos are really disturbing.  It sounds like these guys had fully automatic weapons.

post #33038 of 41349
At least 20 dead, 100 hundred wounded. Shooter was a local person. Fucking cowardly politicians. Have the guts to pass sensible gun laws.
post #33039 of 41349
The police describes the shooter as a "lone wolf' with no terrorist connections. The shooter's name or ethnicity hasn't been revealed but the authorities are searching for his wife, whose name is Marylou Danley.


Why is this being discussed in this thread, by the way?
post #33040 of 41349
Probably just got caught up.

Plus, I’m sure we’ll be hearing about this ‘very fine person’ and will undoubtedly hear about the color of his hat.
post #33041 of 41349
Sorry, it’s just early and I’m looking at my daughter and feeling like I won’t be able to protect her always. Did not mean to jump to or imply any conclusions about this guy. Just...aaaaargggghhhh...
post #33042 of 41349

At least 50 dead and over 200 wounded now.

post #33043 of 41349

If that's true that's the deadliest mass shooting in US history. Jesus.

 

It's about 350m from the Manderlay Bay to the concert, but I guess that's the extreme range of most assault rifles, so the damage he could have done in a packed crowd would have been horrific. 

 

I was in Vegas at the Luxor a few years back, I assume this very same concert was going on opposite as we were there at this time of year and it seemed to be country music they were playing. That space was rammed tight.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtanen View Post

The police describes the shooter as a "lone wolf' with no terrorist connections. The shooter's name or ethnicity hasn't been revealed but the authorities are searching for his wife, whose name is Marylou Danley.


Why is this being discussed in this thread, by the way?

Lone Wolf = white guy.
post #33046 of 41349

Well, actually* 'lone wolf' is a term of art that's been used recently to describe all manner of terror attacks, particularly from ISIS, whose methods are not training in camps a la Al-Qaeda but radiclization on the internet and such. But it also refers to white guys. 

post #33047 of 41349
Probably the same type used in the other shootings, the AR-15?

Fucking horrible. Obviously, it should banned apart from gun ranges. Otherwise, fucking do something. Buy back program. Whatever.
post #33048 of 41349

The detail of a gunman firing on an open-air concert from a hotel balcony, not on the ground, is harrowing. 

post #33049 of 41349

A few UK news websites are carrying a picture of the gunman.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-gunman-stephen-paddock-11274144

post #33050 of 41349
Thank God for the Muslim ban!
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