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A poll of Trump voters' opinions on the NFL. Look what happens as soon as Trump starts complaining about players kneeling.

 

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/918178859706716160

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Originally Posted by HunterTarantino View Post
 

Not that this is encouragement, but it's not the apocalypse. Which, thank Christ.

 

Being a cynic today I'd say that it's still an apocalypse....it's just spread out over at least one generation.

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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

A poll of Trump voters' opinions on the NFL. Look what happens as soon as Trump starts complaining about players kneeling.

 

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/918178859706716160

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the gullible fools who are easily led are still awful, garbage people.

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the gullible fools who are easily led are still awful, garbage people.

You are painting them in a FAR too flattering light...

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Lemme see if I get this straight. People who identify as Trump followers are revealed to rally behind Trump when he takes a public stance? HOLY SHIT.

 

The real question is, how many of these people are there at this point? Is it a majority of Americans or not? That seems to be the critical difference to me as to whether I should abandon all hope for this country, or just some.

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Originally Posted by Dephremogaster View Post
 

Lemme see if I get this straight. People who identify as Trump followers are revealed to rally behind Trump when he takes a public stance? HOLY SHIT.

 

The real question is, how many of these people are there at this point? Is it a majority of Americans or not? That seems to be the critical difference to me as to whether I should abandon all hope for this country, or just some.

It's NEVER been a majority. That's one of the things that keeps me sane.

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Originally Posted by Dephremogaster View Post
 

The real question is, how many of these people are there at this point? Is it a majority of Americans or not? That seems to be the critical difference to me as to whether I should abandon all hope for this country, or just some.

 

28% of eligible voters voted for him.

 

The worst people in America can be outvoted, if everyone else gives enough of a damn.

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Which is why Republicans at every level do everything in their power to keep voter turnout low.

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"What a nice sound that is," Trump said, as the tune began playing. "Are they playing that for you or for me?"

"They're playing that in honor of his ratings," Trump quipped, answering his own question to Hannity. "He's beating everybody."

Minus that last line, of course.
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EXPERT reference.

 

"Are you the police?"

"NO! We're THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION!"

 

Bill Pullman is basically a Trump son in it. This shot never ceases to get a laugh out of me:

 

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The White House has made "significant progress" in turning over documents to Mueller.

 

"The bulk of the heavy lifting is largely behind," but...

 

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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
 

 

28% of eligible voters voted for him.

 

The worst people in America can be outvoted, if everyone else gives enough of a damn.

 

This isn't correct. The 2016 election only saw approx. 55-58% +/-  of eligible voters actually cast a ballot in 2016.

 

There are approx. 250M eligible voters here in the US.

 

This still means that 62M morons voted for their fellow moron....which is a lot of morons but it still means they are most assuredly in the minority.

 

Still....that's way too many fucking morons.

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I mean, I think part of the lesson here is not everyone who can vote should vote. 

 

If you can't be assed to take it seriously, just fucking stay out.

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

 

This isn't correct. The 2016 election only saw approx. 55-58% +/-  of eligible voters actually cast a ballot in 2016.

 

 

That's exactly in line with what I said...

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Originally Posted by HunterTarantino View Post
 

The White House has made "significant progress" in turning over documents to Mueller.

 

"The bulk of the heavy lifting is largely behind," but...

 

I wonder if the White House can be stormed, Manafort-style, so investigators can get their shit. I assume this is a legal impossibility, otherwise Ken Starr would've done it.

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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
 

That's exactly in line with what I said...

 

Ah....I stand corrected.

 

That said, I think it's important to state the actual numbers involved as it really brings the point home...especially about the fact that almost half of those eligible voters didn't fucking vote. 

 

Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAcF0eJ06y_8T4o2gvIL4YcyQy8pxb1zYkgXF76Uu1s/edit#gid=2030096602

 

damn, according to the above doc., there are 3M+ felons that are ineligible to vote ?!?!


Edited by VTRan - 10/12/17 at 8:18pm
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The actual winner of the 2016 election by vote count was, "Go away. 'Baitin'."

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What
thefuck?

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Where’s Zinke? The interior secretary’s special flag offers clues

 

At the Interior Department’s headquarters in downtown Washington, Secretary Ryan Zinke has revived an arcane military ritual that no one can remember ever happening in the federal government.

 

A security staffer takes the elevator to the seventh floor, climbs the stairs to the roof and hoists a special secretarial flag whenever Zinke enters the building. When the secretary goes home for the day or travels, the flag — a blue banner emblazoned with the agency’s bison seal flanked by seven white stars representing the Interior bureaus — comes down.  

 

In Zinke’s absence, the ritual is repeated to raise an equally obscure flag for Deputy Secretary David Bernhardt.

 

Responding this week to questions from The Washington Post, a spokeswoman for Zinke, a former Navy SEAL commander, defended the Navy flag-flying tradition as “a major sign of transparency.”

<cont>

 

these fuckers are truly crazy.....

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Originally Posted by Warren Peace View Post
 

 

I wonder if the White House can be stormed, Manafort-style, so investigators can get their shit. I assume this is a legal impossibility, otherwise Ken Starr would've done it.


Starr would've done it hourly if he could have.

 

And between Zinke and Pruitt, aspiring megalomaniacs have clearly seized control of all the governmental departments to do with the environment. Taking inspiration from the Orange Ghoulius (as Richard put it) at the top, no doubt.


Edited by Dent6084 - 10/12/17 at 8:43pm
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Resignation imminent?
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Originally Posted by Warren Peace View Post

I wonder if the White House can be stormed, Manafort-style, so investigators can get their shit. I assume this is a legal impossibility, otherwise Ken Starr would've done it.

If Trump had let his private security staff go (the private force, not the United States Secret Service), I have to imagine I'd be able to find an article about it with a search. They're still in the White House, and they're not law enforcement officials. They're just hired goons. I'd hate to see a standoff between those guys and actual cops come to enforce a search warrant.

That's assuming that any party had the political will. I'm sure it's feasible that such a precedent-setting thing could happen eventually, but then both parties would have to look forward to their Presidents being disrupted the same way for the rest of the life of the republic. What little passes for decorum in Washington is really the Mutually Assured Destruction principle in action.
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I don't know if this is legit....

 

Subject: EMBARGOED President Donald J. Trump's New Strategy on Iran

http://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-embargoed-president-donald-j-trumps-new-strat-1819425957?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=Public_Pool_twitter

 

....it would seem to be a giant clusterfuck, so it's likely it's straight from this abomination of an administration.

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There’s a 0% chance Trump read all that
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There’s a 0% chance Trump read all that
If they even want there to be a chance that he reads all the stuff he needs to, they need to hire someone just to make sure that all the important documents are the only reading material in Trump's private bathroom. You know he has one (can't be using the same john as the help, ya know). The wall to wall mirrors, gold plated everything and Constitution?! LOL toilet paper give it away..
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RIP Obamacare.


MAGACARE is now the law of the land.

 

Predictably, that shit aint gonna work.

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RIP Obamacare.


MAGACARE is now the law of the land.

Predictably, that shit aint gonna work.

I'm in a silver linings kind of mood today:

Maybe, just maybe, with the unvarnished cost of what insurance companies are charging being laid bare, it'll force a market correction.

My fear is that enough upper income and employer-provided plans will be JUUUUSSSST affordable enough that the companies will make out just fine as millions decide they can't afford their product.

The end-run around the insurance companies of direct third payer needs to happen yesterday, and frankly should have been a condition of the ACA individual markets being implemented in the first place - it's the only thing that's going to place downward pressure on prices.

Good luck with that though, since it was in the initial proposed ACA and got stripped out. And that's when the world was at least remotely sane.

I fully expect every Trump voter who loses their insurance over this to angrily blame Obama and vote GOP down the line.
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I've had a bad feeling about this President ever since he touched the Glowing Orb.

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The CBO said that Trump cutting off subsidy payments would raise premiums by 20% and add one million more uninsured.  The government will also be spending more to cover fewer people, which sounds pretty fucking dumb.

 

That's his leverage, apparently.

 

Republicans get away with a lot of shit.  That's been true way before Trump hit the scene.  Maybe, just maybe, they'll finally see some consequences.

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Fuck Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

 

Preet was a Gulenist agent! Fuck outta here.

 

Here's the thing about the coup. The evidence implicating the Gulenist faction consists entirely of Whatsapp message logs. Whatsapp isn't some verified source. In terms of things that would be easy to fake, that's at the very tippy-top of the fucking list. Considering AK had already been busted in court trying to fake evidence (shoutout calibri font), its kind of weird that everyone has just accepted their interpretation of these message logs without question.

 

That man is a monster and he murdered the shit out of innocent Turks in order to commit to this purge. 

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The health care stuff will be in court longer than Drumpf will be in office.

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Reminder that no one needs: it's not just Trump.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/355141-ryan-feds-have-duty-to-help-puerto-rico

 

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Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Thursday that Puerto Rico is facing a “humanitarian crisis” and argued that the federal government has a responsibility to provide personnel and aid to the hurricane-ravaged island territory.

 

But Ryan also appeared to defend controversial remarks by President Trump that federal resources cannot remain in Puerto Rico “forever,” saying the territory needs to get back "on its own two feet." The president did not make similar comments about two other regions that have been slammed by hurricanes, Houston and south Florida.

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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
 

I've had a bad feeling about this President ever since he touched the Glowing Orb.

Gandalf warned about the Palantirs, dammit!

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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Reminder that no one needs: it's not just Trump.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/355141-ryan-feds-have-duty-to-help-puerto-rico

 

Man, how I hate Ryan and his Ayn Rand fuckboy mentality.

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All of which shows why meaningful representation in government is important. 

 

'Stand on your own two feet', what kind of crap is that. The island is fucking destroyed. Maybe coal country needs to learn to stand on its own two feet, instead of bitching about these shitty jobs that are never coming  back.

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For all the talk about how Puerto Rico would be Trump's Katrina, the comp never worked because Bush had to pretend that he cared.  Trump doesn't give a fuck, and he doesn't even have to pretend like he gives a fuck.  His supporters and his party actually prefer that he doesn't give a fuck.  

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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

The CBO said that Trump cutting off subsidy payments would raise premiums by 20% and add one million more uninsured.  The government will also be spending more to cover fewer people, which sounds pretty fucking dumb.

 

That's his leverage, apparently.

 

Republicans get away with a lot of shit.  That's been true way before Trump hit the scene.  Maybe, just maybe, they'll finally see some consequences.

 

 

...Yeah, though it'd be great, at this point I'll pretty much believe it when I see it, given how willingly balls-deep into the "Sunken Costs" fallacy most of the GOP/Trump base is at this point.

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Paul Krugman‏t @paulkrugman 3h3 hours ago

 

So the sabotage of health care is in full swing and out in the open. And the motive is the scariest thing 1/

 

This is obviously not about any kind of policy strategy, or even about a coherent political strategy. It's sheer spite on Trump's part 2/

 

He's an utter failure as president, and he clearly knows it, so he's lashing out and breaking things just because he can 3/

 

Today he's blowing up Obamacare. Tomorrow, maybe, the world. 4/

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According to two sources familiar with the conversation, Trump vented to his longtime security chief, Keith Schiller, “I hate everyone in the White House! There are a few exceptions, but I hate them!” (A White House official denies this.)

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers

 

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And then there's this....(Frum seems to be on the side of sanity.)

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David Frum‏ @davidfrum

 

Trump’s attitude to sufferering on Puerto Rico an ominous indicator of his likely attitude toward fatalities on the Korean Peninsula

 

I know it's been joked about but I'm getting a real SERIOUS "Nero fiddling" vibe from this orange ignoramus.

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Trump sucks but David Frum deserves to be dropped into a volcano. Fuuuuuuuck that guy.

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Trump doesn't give a fuck about Puerto Rico because, in order, 1) brown people 2) who speak something other than English and 3) can't vote.

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Christ, I'm so fucking angry sitting here right now just as Trump's about to make his fucking baby-tantrum speech announcing the pullout from the Iran nuclear-deal. It's like...early 2003 all over again, watching a U.S. president about to execute a hideously-foolish, ill-advised impulsive stunt that will have major, disastrous consequences in the years to come.

 

Image result for r.j. matson nuclear buttons

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Trump sucks but David Frum deserves to be dropped into a volcano. Fuuuuuuuck that guy.


Oh, yeah....Frum's been a long time enabler of heinous GOP policies, but in this case he has 'sort of' seen the light and if it takes someone like him to maybe wake up some of the old school conservatives to how horrible DJT truly is, I'll take it. 

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

Oh, yeah....Frum's been a long time enabler of heinous GOP policies, but in this case he has 'sort of' seen the light and if it takes someone like him to maybe wake up some of the old school conservatives to how horrible DJT truly is, I'll take it. 

 

^ Plus, Frum actually voted for Hillary last November, and based on his recent MSNBC appearances and Atlantic articles, I'm willing to believe that he's come around to the good guys' team, at least for now.

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Originally Posted by Leto II View Post

 

^ Plus, Frum actually voted for Hillary last November, and based on his recent appearances and Atlantic articles, I'm willing to believe that he's come around to the good-guys' team, at least for now.

Haha, stop it.

 

Trump clashes with Frum's interests. Let's hold off on giving the guy a medal.

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Not saying give the guy a medal, but he walks the walk where it actually counts now.

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Haha, stop it.

 

Trump clashes with Frum's interests. Let's hold off on giving the guy a medal.


No medal....but push him out front to show all the conserva-rubes that DJT is a piece of shit. If it comes from 'one of their own', they might pause to read/listen.

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

No medal....but push him out front to show all the conserva-rubes that DJT is a piece of shit. If it comes from 'one of their own', they might pause to read/listen.

 

This, basically. Guy was a speechwriter for Dubya. His credibility is a threat to Trump's credibility.

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

Trump doesn't give a fuck about Puerto Rico because, in order, 1) brown people 2) who speak something other than English and 3) can't vote.

 

4) Spite

 

Trump's Puerto Rico Golf Venture: Not Such A Great Deal

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Originally Posted by Leto II View Post
 

Not saying give the guy a medal, but he walks the walk where it actually counts now.

He wrote the speeches which served as motivation for the Iraq War. Now he's with the "good guys"? COME. THE. FUCK. ON.

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

He wrote the speeches which served as motivation for the Iraq War. Now he's with the "good guys"? COME. THE. FUCK. ON.

 

True, I can't really attest to what he did in the past, just for what he's doing now, which seems to be atoning for his ways somewhat. We'll see, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

He wrote the speeches which served as motivation for the Iraq War. Now he's with the "good guys"? COME. THE. FUCK. ON.


The world is many shades of grey.....Frum's political history isn't 'good' but his anti-DJT sentiment can be used to good effect.

 

the cliche saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of applies here...

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