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So Veselnitskaya didn't have the goods, so the Trumps hooked up with AGALAROV instead.

 

Long time readers of this thread should recognize the AGALAROVs as the main fucking dudes in this whole thing.

 

Just a matter of time until Mueller gets there.

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Eh, I wouldn't believe a word that she says. 

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Even after taking that into consideration...Don Jr. remains a fucking idiot.

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Even after taking that into consideration...Don Jr. remains a fucking idiot.


That, I think we can all agree on.

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You were LIED to man!

 

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I honestly think that this is a Trump move to actually deliver on his promise of Radical Islamic Terrorism.

 

 

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Well, we can no longer honestly say that Trump doesn't have a foreign policy achievement to his name. He's done more to unite the Palestinians than anyone else has in years.

 

There are enough people in the Trump administration that want to kick off the rapture that I really think it's an attempt to immanentize the eschaton.  And even if it doesn't, the Warlords and Warlord Incorporated Companies make a ton of money, so it's a win-win!

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Breaking: Don Jr. is a fucking idiot:
Memo to all future Evil Overlords: THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO NEPOTISM.
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Memo to all future Evil Overlords: THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO NEPOTISM.

 

*scribbles furiously*

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I honestly think that this is a Trump move to actually deliver on his promise of Radical Islamic Terrorism.

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There are enough people in the Trump administration that want to kick off the rapture that I really think it's an attempt to immanentize the eschaton.  And even if it doesn't, the Warlords and Warlord Incorporated Companies make a ton of money, so it's a win-win!


Yeah, there's a lot going on here, and none of it's good. It's the stated policy of Netanyahu and AIPAC that - and here I'm quoting a tweet that AIPAC sent out a half an hour ago - "undivided #Jerusalem is the historic, current and future capital of Israel." This is a step toward Israel trying to seize the city entirely from the Palestinians. The Evangelical doomsday cults will love this, seeing it as a crucial step toward Jesus coming back and killing all the Jews. The Israeli government and their political action committee in Washington have been happy to exploit the anti-semitic beliefs of Christian fundamentalists for decades in this way. If I were to guess whose idea this was, my bet would be on Mike Pence.

It's also a chance for Trump to have a proper war of his own, if he thinks that will save his presidency. A war abroad and renewed terrorist threats at home over Jerusalem could help to guarantee conservative voter turn-out in 2018, no matter how far along the Mueller investigation is or how hard the tax law rewrite has bit voters in the ass by then. The precarious safety of the Embassy they're planning on building in Jerusalem should prove exciting for any conservatives who are jealous that they don't have a Benghazi of their own.
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From what I understand, this is a purely symbolic move that will hurt whatever peace talks the Trump administration and Ambassador Jared had hoped to start.

It's completely counterproductive, so of course the Trump administration wants to do it.
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So Al Green says he intends to pursue an impeachment vote tomorrow, under conditions that would require a vote be taken on Friday. In his memo, the only articles of impeachment listed fall under the general "being a hideous racist shitbag and cozying up to Nazis" category, which while vile seems like a not particularly beefy argument for removal from office. Can they pile on additional stuff later?
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It strikes me as an incredibly bizarre publicity stunt to force a vote on impeachment without making it about actual crimes. Yes, it's an eight page list of incidents where the President's racist outbursts have embarrassed us all, but there's no precedent for impeachment for that and no hope of the vote accomplishing anything while this mutant thing that used to be the Republican Party controls both houses.
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They feel it is their mission on this earth to end abortion at any - and I mean  ANY   - cost.

It's extra frustrating because many of those single-issue voters are smart enough to realize they're being manipulated, but simply don't care. Because heaven.

Any cost.....well, except allowing women access to birth control.
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It strikes me as an incredibly bizarre publicity stunt to force a vote on impeachment without making it about actual crimes. Yes, it's an eight page list of incidents where the President's racist outbursts have embarrassed us all, but there's no precedent for impeachment for that and no hope of the vote accomplishing anything while this mutant thing that used to be the Republican Party controls both houses.

 

Agreed.

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Didn't Green pursue an impeachment vote a few weeks ago?
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He did. His fellow Democrats managed to talk him down that time, which is why he's coming back with some kind of deluxe "You Have Two Days To Vote On It" kind of bill that I've never heard of before.
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Its unhelpful grandstanding.
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That's the kind of thing that gets you into the White House.

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Meanwhile, the choosing of sides in the coming Republican civil war continues. While appearing as a guest on Steve Bannon's talk radio show last night, Sean Hannity said, “Here’s my view on the Republican Party. It is a dead party. They are morally corrupt, they are weak. They are ineffective, they’re vision-less, and they have no identity.” This was Hannity declaring that the Party had abandoned the ideals and convictions upheld by none other than Donald J. Trump.
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Meanwhile, the choosing of sides in the coming Republican civil war continues. While appearing as a guest on Steve Bannon's talk radio show last night, Sean Hannity said, “Here’s my view on the Republican Party. It is a dead party. They are morally corrupt, they are weak. They are ineffective, they’re vision-less, and they have no identity.” This was Hannity declaring that the Party had abandoned the ideals and convictions upheld by none other than Donald J. Trump.

 

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Haha, Sean Hannity worrying about morals.

 

I hate the way the last few years have ruined Dr. Strangelove for me.

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Yeah, the Green thing seems like it's poorly timed and even more poorly supported.  He's likely not even going to get a full roster of Democrats voting for impeachment, much less a single Republican, so even as a litmus test it kinda backfires.

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Also, WaPo editorial cartoon from today:

 

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Yeah, there's a lot going on here, and none of it's good. It's the stated policy of Netanyahu and AIPAC that - and here I'm quoting a tweet that AIPAC sent out a half an hour ago - "undivided #Jerusalem is the historic, current and future capital of Israel." This is a step toward Israel trying to seize the city entirely from the Palestinians. The Evangelical doomsday cults will love this, seeing it as a crucial step toward Jesus coming back and killing all the Jews. The Israeli government and their political action committee in Washington have been happy to exploit the anti-semitic beliefs of Christian fundamentalists for decades in this way. If I were to guess whose idea this was, my bet would be on Mike Pence.

It's also a chance for Trump to have a proper war of his own, if he thinks that will save his presidency. A war abroad and renewed terrorist threats at home over Jerusalem could help to guarantee conservative voter turn-out in 2018, no matter how far along the Mueller investigation is or how hard the tax law rewrite has bit voters in the ass by then. The precarious safety of the Embassy they're planning on building in Jerusalem should prove exciting for any conservatives who are jealous that they don't have a Benghazi of their own.

   Personally I think anyone with a hard on for the end times should read Good Omens because hopefully they will learn that the world is an endless interesting place that one should explore; its not something that needs to be destroyed just to see which gang is better. Its also a really funny book.

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I mean, the very idea that one could take action to induce the event that Jesus himself outright says will happen at an appointed time that even he doesn't know is so theologically wrongheaded that it would be breathtaking, if it were the case that these people actually paid attention to what the Bible says on the subject in the first place.
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Also, WaPo editorial cartoon from today:

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This is so good. This should be printed out multiple times by every Democrat in Alabama and posted publicly everywhere.
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Chuck Schumer supports moving the embassy and declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital, and recently advised Trump to do both:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363465-schumer-advised-trump-on-declaring-jerusalem-as-israels-capital
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Chuck Schumer supports moving the embassy and declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital, and recently advised Trump to do both:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363465-schumer-advised-trump-on-declaring-jerusalem-as-israels-capital

Well that figures.
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Why are we deciding where other countries' capitals are?
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That's partly why this is such a dumb idea. Unilateral action on such a delicate issue will ensure the US is never seen as a neutral arbiter. It's going to effectively kill the two-state solution and incite more unrest. While Israel's right-wing government is thrilled, many Israeli security experts have warned against it for precisely that reason.
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Meanwhile, the choosing of sides in the coming Republican civil war continues. While appearing as a guest on Steve Bannon's talk radio show last night, Sean Hannity said, “Here’s my view on the Republican Party. It is a dead party. They are morally corrupt, they are weak. They are ineffective, they’re vision-less, and they have no identity.” This was Hannity declaring that the Party had abandoned the ideals and convictions upheld by none other than Donald J. Trump.

 

The Reagan era version of Conservatism is dead. What we are seeing with the Tea Party and now Trump is the takeover of the GOP by Populists. 

 

Peter Zeitan, a geo political analyst, thinks the Millennial tend toward Populism and not Globalism, so whatever happens to Trump, don't expect the nativism, Anti Immigration or revival of Mercantilism to go away. 

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Millennials' views are all over the place. It's really incredible to take a look at some of the surveys.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/millennials-economics-voting-clueless-kids-these-days/374427/
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Millenials only care about their cell phones. As long as they have those puppies they’re fine.
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Some food for thought: Trump's Twitter has only had two tweets today. One is promoting his Pensacola rally. The other is about being in Utah. Both are shared videos. The last time that there was a "Trump tweet," for lack of better words, was at 4:35 am late Sunday night/early Monday morning.

 

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Millenials only care about their cell phones. As long as they have those puppies they’re fine.

Needlessly cynical. They also care about what they're looking at on their cell phones. For an average of three minutes.
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Needlessly cynical. They also care about what they're looking at on their cell phones. For an average of three minutes.

Not fair. They also care about whether or not you want fries with your order.
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Not fair. They also care about whether or not you want fries with your order.

 

No they don't!

 

Make one substitution and they will fuck up your order!

 

(you tell me I can swap a tiny soda for corn-on-the-cob, you best gimme me my corn-on-the-cob, motherfucker!)

 

What were we talking about?

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If there's anything I've learned from old white male columnists for major metropolitan newspapers, it's that the only religion millenials subscribe to is that of Our Lord and Savior Avocado Toast.

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They've ruined everything else.

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To be fair, millenials have no experience with two functioning political parties or the idea that you can trust the news. The society that reared them is a shitshow.
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Trump is runner-up for Times Person of the Year. 

 

The winner is "The Silence Breakers". So...Terry Crews: Times Person of the Year  ;)

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Judd over McGowan is an interesting choice for that cover. 

 

fucking taylor swift though

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Honestly, was hoping the PotY would be ‘Trump Supporters’ and the picture would be just a big middle finger with a tattoo on it that says Nazi punks, fuck off.
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To be fair, millenials have no experience with two functioning political parties or the idea that you can trust the news. The society that reared them is a shitshow.

 

You gotta continue to love all the dumping-on's Gen X-ers and Millenials get while never taking into account the giant fuck-up of a recipe Baby Boomers are leaving behind.

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And who raised the Millennials again...roomers? Zoomers? Eh, it’ll come to me, I’m sure.
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Trump is runner-up for Times Person of the Year. 

 

The winner is "The Silence Breakers". So...Terry Crews: Times Person of the Year  ;)

Will Trump throw a hissy fit over this? Any bets?

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Here's hoping they absolutely blast him in the runner-up entry, just for good measure.
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Originally Posted by Draco Senior View Post

Millennials' views are all over the place. It's really incredible to take a look at some of the surveys.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/millennials-economics-voting-clueless-kids-these-days/374427/

 

"So... you want a realistic down-to-earth show... that's completely off the wall, and swarming with magic robots...?"

 

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Time for another edition of everyone's (no one's) favorite game show...
 

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Today's debate - the TIME Person of the Year cover! 

 

The POTY is the best, and most obvious choice, a way of framing "me too" and The Reckoning that makes sense. That's good! So why isn't "me too" creator Tarana Burke - who is featured prominentely within the article itself, and was interviewed on Today, not on the cover? Burke is of course a "person of the year" (along with Judd, Terry Crews, McGowan, Selma Blair, Alyssa Milano, and those currently suing the Plaza Hotel for harassment within the piece. Also, ugh, Megan Kelly, but that's a different debate; just like the absence of Anthony Rapp here is).

 

The good: The cover is a diverse variety of people from a wide variety of industries - service/agriculture, media, politics. That's good! But sexual harassment and assault is a nationwide problem, and it feels like Time really missed the mark at not having one of the Republican women who came forward about Roy Moore or Leeann Tweeden on the cover. I understand that they probably didn't want to make it super political, but c'mon. 

 

The good: Featuring Ashley Judd on the cover makes sense (and I guess McGowan is on the fold out cover? I'll need to find an issue), because she was among the first and most prominent to speak out against Harvey Weinstein. The bad: Taylor Swift. I enjoy Taylor's music and I think what she did in this trial - particularly since she countersued for so little to prove a point - was brave. But she's a polarizing figure who has, many times, elevated herself by running down or shaming other women, from Kim Kardashian to Katy Perry. It's a controversial choice to be sure - especially when Kesha, who returned to music after taking on one of the most powerful men in music this year, is right there. 

 

Ultimately, though, the choice to include Swift (like Kelly), while debatable and discussable, is not enough to diminish how big this feels. Yes, it's Time, and nobody reads Time anymore, but the POTY still means something. It really does feel like we're living through a historical moment in many ways, and this reckoning over powerful men and men's behavior itself is one of them. 

 

The verdict: 

 

This cover is...NOT problematic.

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Edit: I'm in a snarky mood today and need to check my posting.

(I agree on the Taylor Swift take though)
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