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post #39901 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Dr. Shrinker View Post

Members of his faith actually engage in similar behavior all the time. It's evidently a common thing down there:

http://beta.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brightbill-roy-moore-evangelical-culture-20171110-story.html

That's damn interesting.
post #39902 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

Acting in good faith just means being sincere and consistent. Religious beliefs are incidental to that.

This is not a political point. It’s just understanding the vocabulary.

 

I'd argue that the line between conservative religious and political 'beliefs' is almost non-existent at this point. The GOP got in bed with religious fundamentalists and it's become the core of their platform.

To be sure, it's not all jesus this and jesus that...many of the GOP faithful worship at the alter of another god.

 

 

Hell, just look at the GOP/GoldenCalf Ryan and their 'tax plan'....while it is somewhat consistent in how horrible it is, it is anything but sincere. It is almost completely faith based bullshit that, when put under the economist microscope, falls apart almost entirely.  If you were to sit Paul Ryan down and show him that his 'math' behind his tax cuts is completely based on 'faith', he would hem and haw and never admit that the belief in his 'god' is wrong.

 

This country has gone down this faith-based 'voodoo' road several times before and it's been shown to not work but some people still ignorantly believe that it will. 

Just look what the moran-in-chief said this morning.-  Trump defies data with 6% GDP growth forecast

 

While the Dems are most definitely not the most virtuous, they still have at least one foot planted in a world that is based on facts which is more than can be said of the GOP.

post #39903 of 41179

ABC got a hold of some Sessions video:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/guarded-sessions-spars-interns-internal-doj-video/story?id=51623744

 

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But when Justice Department interns attending the event started asking him questions, things got spirited — and an internal Justice Department video of the session, obtained by ABC News, offers a rare glimpse of what appears to be a less guarded Sessions.

At one point, he seemed to mock a Justice Department intern for questioning whether marijuana is dangerous. He said cities like Chicago and Baltimore are now plagued with rising crime and murders because they "have abandoned traditional police activities." And he dismissed another intern's assertion that many Americans in poor, largely minority communities fear law enforcement officers. 

"I grew up in one of these communities," said the intern, who said he attends the University of California at Berkeley. "I grew up in a project to a single mother. And the people who we are afraid of are not necessarily our neighbors but the police."

An apparently exasperated Sessions replied, "Well, that may be the view in Berkeley, but it's not the view" elsewhere. 

post #39904 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

CNN and The Washington Post are working on exposing 20-30 congressional members for sexual assault:

 

https://twitter.com/mikehtrujillo/status/938815136571129856

 

Woah.

 

The fun never stops in D.C. How great would it be if it Devin Nunes and Dana Rohrabacher get named in this...

post #39905 of 41179

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is saying it's not decided if the United States will participate in next year's Olympics.  I kid you not:

 

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/938843379269537792

 

I guess we have to stand with Russia on this since they were banned?

post #39906 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Leto II View Post
 

 

The fun never stops in D.C. How great would it be if it Devin Nunes and Dana Rohrabacher get named in this...



I'm not saying its going to be mostly Tea Partiers.

 

But I kind of think its gonna be mostly Tea Partiers.

post #39907 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is saying it's not decided if the United States will participate in next year's Olympics.  I kid you not:

 

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/938843379269537792

 

I guess we have to stand with Russia on this since they were banned?

 

Or they don't expect there to be an Olympics, because they don't expect there to be a South Korea. 

post #39908 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is saying it's not decided if the United States will participate in next year's Olympics.  I kid you not:

 

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/938843379269537792

 

I guess we have to stand with Russia on this since they were banned?

 

Presidents' words carry weight, but it's up to the USOC if the country participates.  Will anyone take Trump seriously, at this point?

post #39909 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is saying it's not decided if the United States will participate in next year's Olympics.  I kid you not:

 

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/938843379269537792

 

I guess we have to stand with Russia on this since they were banned?

 

Unbelievable.  This is patently absurd.

post #39910 of 41179

There's no reason for the USOC to go along with that. They're just saying dumb shit to muddy the waters. 

 

And then the Press Secretary of Crookback Bog can happily report that the US WILL be attending the Olympics, to much rejoicing from our idiot countrymen.

 

"See! Trump saved the Olympics!"

post #39911 of 41179
Oh, shit! I just qualified for the 400-meter hug.
post #39912 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Oh, shit! I just qualified for the 400-meter hug.

 

I thought you were competing in downhill McRibbing.

post #39913 of 41179

Competitive Pants Steaming.

post #39914 of 41179

I'm pretty sure the Olympics thing is more about solidarity with Russia than anything involving North Korea, but we'll see.

 

Meanwhile:

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Rep. Eric Swalwell 
@RepSwalwell
#BREAKING @HillaryClinton impeachment proceedings underway at today’s @HouseJudiciary hearing.
post #39915 of 41179
Didn't we just have an Olympics? How often do we need these things?
post #39916 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Didn't we just have an Olympics? How often do we need these things?

 

They return with the frequency of the McRib, Brad.

post #39917 of 41179

There is life after the Senate. I will miss Franken. But he will be fine; this isn't his seat, it belongs to the people of the state of Minnesota, and he chose to resign of his own free will. No one is irreplaceable, time marches on. Reasonable people see that ass-grabbing isn't the end of the world, but that it ALSO isn't becoming from someone of the stature of a Senator. If we are trying to have a new day, then it's a new day.

 

Slowly, inexorably, we are making way for the Millennials, and their sensibilities, for better or for worse. There is a great sea-change happening -- it's still only a distant rumbling, but will be upon us very quickly. The reason Trump sits in the White House right now is because Millennials convinced themselves their votes didn't matter. They have now been disabused of that notion.

 

Look for 2018 to be a tsunami of an election.

post #39918 of 41179

Republicans are spending the day complaining that non-Republicans can also work for the FBI.  

post #39919 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Republicans are spending the day complaining that non-Republicans can also work for the FBI.  

 

Yeah, saw that.  They're really pushing the narrative that anyone who has ever voted Democrat cannot be professionally objective.

post #39920 of 41179

Trump just referred to the Pearl Harbor attack as a "pretty wild scene."

Here's Jeff Sessions being a cunt - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/guarded-sessions-spars-interns-internal-doj-video/story?id=51623744 

 

I'm gonna go outside and punch stuff for a while.

post #39921 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Trump just referred to the Pearl Harbor attack as a "pretty wild scene."

 

I mean, let's be honest, the Pearl Harbor attack's the best thing Michael Bay's ever done, and it is pretty wild. 

post #39922 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Trump just referred to the Pearl Harbor attack as a "pretty wild scene."

Here's Jeff Sessions being a cunt - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/guarded-sessions-spars-interns-internal-doj-video/story?id=51623744 

 

I'm gonna go outside and punch stuff for a while.

 

Iron Maiden had that link about 20 posts up the page.

post #39923 of 41179

Looks like the Olympic thing might not actually be a thing.  It's just that this administration is so inept that it has a difficult time not screwing everything up:

 

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/938849891652161536

post #39924 of 41179

D'oh! Apologies. The shitstorm is so constant I can't keep up.

post #39925 of 41179

Speaking of wanting to punch stuff, here's a Roy Moore spokesperson trying to do Kellyanne's shtick.

 

Anderson fighting the good fight.

post #39926 of 41179

Well, this is an interesting Twitter thread...

 

https://twitter.com/wendbrok/status/938601786318843904

post #39927 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Looks like the Olympic thing might not actually be a thing.  It's just that this administration is so inept that it has a difficult time not screwing everything up:

 

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/938849891652161536

 

Right now, I could see the IOC booting the US just to keep tensions down with North Korea AND to ensure that Trump doesn't travel to South Korea to stir shit up.

post #39928 of 41179
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Wanted to share a video of Roy Moore in 1997 arguing that kids commit drive-by shooting because they are taught evolution in school: "They're acting like animals because we've taught them they come from animals."

video at link-  https://twitter.com/chrismassie/status/938833735893561350

post #39929 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

I mean, let's be honest, the Pearl Harbor attack's the best thing Michael Bay's ever done, and it is pretty wild. 

Son of a bitch, you stole my line!
post #39930 of 41179
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

video at link-  https://twitter.com/chrismassie/status/938833735893561350

"How is what he said wrong?" - millions of people

post #39931 of 41179
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

Well, this is an interesting Twitter thread...

 

https://twitter.com/wendbrok/status/938601786318843904

 

We know nothing about the context of any of those pictures except for the Franken one, and there have been volumes written about how women continue to work with or even be close to their attackers/abusers. Mad Men did an entire character arc based around it. The Tom Arnold thing is worth noting, but the rest is pretty victim-blamey and slut-shamey.

post #39932 of 41179

You should watch her Howard Stern appearance.

 

Franken can be both a skeezeball AND a victim of opportunity.

post #39933 of 41179

Franken didn't attack or abuse her.

 

Part of the problem with the way the narrative has shifted has been a total devaluation of what any of these terms mean.

post #39934 of 41179

I still think he should've resigned but "a photo shows Franken groping someone" is a demonstrably untrue statement.

post #39935 of 41179

You guys are absolutely correct that we need to be more nuanced with these terms. 

 

On the other hand, we're up against an enemy that has no time or patience for nuance. 

post #39936 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

You guys are absolutely correct that we need to be more nuanced with these terms. 

 

On the other hand, we're up against an enemy that has no time or patience for nuance. 

 

...And the far right is pretty awful, too, I hear.

post #39937 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

You guys are absolutely correct that we need to be more nuanced with these terms. 

 

On the other hand, we're up against an enemy that has no time or patience for nuance. 

 

They purposefully ignore nuance.

post #39938 of 41179

Pretty wild stuff from Gregg Jarrett:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-newss-gregg-jarrett-goes-full-conspiracist-on-mueller-kgb-that-comes-for-you-in-the-dark-of-night/

 

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Jarrett, who has been highly critical of the Mueller investigation, believing it harms American-Russia relations, declared on Hannity: “I think we now know that the Mueller investigation is illegitimate and corrupt.”

Jarrett bases that bold assertion on recent news that an FBI agent was removed from Mueller’s team last summer after he sent texts that were critical of President Donald Trump.

“Mueller has been using the FBI as a political weapon,” Jarrett continued, though he did not provide much evidence for the declaration, before going full-blown tinfoil hat conspiracist:

“The FBI has become America’s secret police. Secret surveillance, wiretapping, intimidation, harassment and threats. It’s like the old KGB that comes for you in the dark of night, banging through your door.”

“And by the way, this is not a game,” Sean Hannity gravely exclaimed. “This is not hyperbole you’re using here.”

“Ask Paul Manafort,” Jarrett said, referring to the former Trump campaign chairman who was indicted on 12 counts, including conspiracy against the United States. “They came for him, and broke through his front door in the dark of night.”

“And if it happened to him, Gregg —” Hannity said.

“It can happen to all of us,” Jarrett warned. “The FBI is a shadow government now.”

 

These guys have twisted themselves into such pretzels that full-on conspiracy stuff is the only route available.  

post #39939 of 41179

Almost every California Republican in the House voted to end deductions for personal loses from wildfires and earthquakes in its version of the tax bill:

 

http://beta.latimes.com/business/la-fi-wildfire-tax-deduction-20171107-story.html

 

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The House Republican tax bill would eliminate the deduction for personal losses from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, but keep the break for victims of the recent severe hurricanes.

If the bill becomes law, the deduction would disappear next year, but would be available for victims of the massive wildfires that struck Northern California last month — as long as they can figure out their uninsured losses and include them on their 2017 tax return.

post #39940 of 41179

Black civil rights leaders and lawmakers, including John Lewis, are thinking about skipping the opening of Mississippi's civil rights museum because of Trump's plan to attend:

 

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/12/06/black-lawmakers-may-skip-civil-rights-museum-opening-protest-trump/Bfc1Mvp7uvYAw7veIIQsyI/story.html?event=event25

 

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Black civil rights leaders, angered by a White House they view as racially divisive, are considering boycotts and protests as they wrestle with how to respond to President Trump’s planned attendance this week at the opening of a civil rights museum in Mississippi.

The NAACP has called for Trump to stay away from the ceremony and is openly encouraging members in Mississippi to boycott the grand opening ceremonies if Trump shows up as scheduled.

Lawmakers who are scheduled to speak at the event, including Representatives Bennie Thompson of Mississippi and John Lewis of Georgia, himself a civil rights hero, have privately discussed dropping out of the event because of Trump, Thompson told the Globe.

post #39941 of 41179

If he wants to show up, they should call him out to his face.

post #39942 of 41179
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post

 

I'd argue that the line between conservative religious and political 'beliefs' is almost non-existent at this point. The GOP got in bed with religious fundamentalists and it's become the core of their platform.

To be sure, it's not all jesus this and jesus that...many of the GOP faithful worship at the alter of another god.

 

 

Hell, just look at the GOP/GoldenCalf Ryan and their 'tax plan'....while it is somewhat consistent in how horrible it is, it is anything but sincere. It is almost completely faith based bullshit that, when put under the economist microscope, falls apart almost entirely.  If you were to sit Paul Ryan down and show him that his 'math' behind his tax cuts is completely based on 'faith', he would hem and haw and never admit that the belief in his 'god' is wrong.

 

This country has gone down this faith-based 'voodoo' road several times before and it's been shown to not work but some people still ignorantly believe that it will. 

Just look what the moran-in-chief said this morning.-  Trump defies data with 6% GDP growth forecast

 

While the Dems are most definitely not the most virtuous, they still have at least one foot planted in a world that is based on facts which is more than can be said of the GOP.

 

 

He said, completely missing the point again.

 

Arguing or operating "in good faith" is not religious terminology.  It means, per Websters, "honesty or lawfulness of purpose".   What the purpose is does not affect whether you are operating in good or bad faith.  It only measures whether your stated intentions are genuine.  

 

This whole thing is like if you said I read the NYT religiously, and I kept insisting you were wrong because I don't bring the paper to church.

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post #39944 of 41179
Wow, Roy. Like, you couldn't even have publically wished to regress to a time just after the end of slavery, say?
post #39945 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

"Even though we had slavery."

 

http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-alabama-senate-runoff-20170921-story.html

 

So is the idea that this will make Alabama voters like him less?

post #39946 of 41179

Isn't "Even Though We Had Slavery" the name of the fight song at Ole Miss?

 

The South loves to wax nostalgic about the time they were proud... even though we had slavery

post #39947 of 41179
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Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post

Wow, Roy. Like, you couldn't even have publically wished to regress to a time just after the end of slavery, say?

 

There's, like, 150 years to choose from.

 

Nope, slavery or nothin.

post #39948 of 41179

 

THIS IS THE ELECTORAL MAP FOR VOTERS 25 AND UNDER.

Republicans have no future and they know it.

They have no ideology, no grip on the issues, and no stance on anything that can change the tide. 

All they can do is slow the tide and possibly break the system through gerrymandering and voter suppression.  That's it.

It's frustratingly slow as fuck for us, but secretly the GOP can see what is happening. 

America is only getting more and more liberal, more and more accepting of women in power, and more brown and more gay.

Imagine how terrified they must be, looking at this map.

post #39949 of 41179

It's heartening to see, but I wonder how that data sample compares to past elections.

 

I bet the map probably doesn't look too different going back 10-20 years.

post #39950 of 41179
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post

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Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post

Wow, Roy. Like, you couldn't even have publically wished to regress to a time just after the end of slavery, say?
There's, like, 150 years to choose from.

Nope, slavery or nothin.
What do you want to bet that, in private, he calls it "the War of Northern Aggression?"
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