Originally Posted by Zhukov
I mean, Jesus Christ, we had the FBI and KGB seemingly working hand in hand.
Not something you see everyday.
Indeed. This was a very strange cycle, and hindsight's genius-granting abilities are only amplified when you're arguing about a path not traveled.
Originally Posted by Jmacq1
But it's always convenient that the only way for Hillary Clinton to ever be "correct" is to tank her own political career and set her ambition aside, or to plead guilty to crimes before ever being indicted for them.
Yeah, I keep hearing over and over, in differing terms, that the only smart thing for Hillary to do, the only right thing, for the country and the party and whoever else, would be to quit fighting. To roll over and validate all the bullshit that was slung at her for years and years. And fuck that, if for no other reason than because it would validate the endless witch hunt's over Benghazi as a valid use of Congressional time and taxpayer money, and encourage whoever controls the branch to blow pointless smoke at any member of the opposition they don't like until they "have" to quite politics altogether.
Originally Posted by Jmacq1
Or you know, figuring out exactly why you lost so you can hopefully avoid doing so again. But the answer isn't quite as simple as "Well just run someone else, anyone else!"
The answers are as incredibly simple as they are multitudinous, because this was an incredibly close race that the Democrats won by the most basic (if not most important) metric. She got the votes, they just weren't distributed in the proper fashion. Could that have been swung by Stein voters sucking it up and voting for Clinton? Yes. Could it have been swung by not having the FBI director essentially make empty accusations while voting was starting only to quietly withdraw them on election eve? Probably. Could it have been swung if the mainstream media only gave Trump $2 billion in free advertising? Maybe. Could it have been swung if they only equivocated the shit out of her attempts to keep some work correspondence private versus his copious crimes against logic, human dignity, and consumer protection laws, instead of equivocating the living fuck out of them? I think so. Could it have been swung if Chelsea was hotter than Ivanka? Possibly, we're pretty shallow as a species. Could it have been swung if our intelligence services were more aggressive about keeping Russian interference out of our election cycle? Maybe. It was such a close thing that there are dozens of things that could have pushed her over the top, but none of them were individually fatal and few of them had neat solutions that were without political cost.
You could do more to reach out to embittered Bernie Bros to try to stop them going third party, but it's not easy to do that while also reaching out more to embittered blue collar whites in the Rust Belt. I'm reminded of The Might Ducks of all things; whose to say if a quarter inch in one direction would've been the game winning goal vs missing the crossbar entirely? We are, obviously, since we are blessed with that superpower of hindsight. But since Bernie never got to the shootout, we can pretend that he would've won easily, or gotten crushed even worse, and there's no way to really disprove any of it.