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Originally Posted by BruceL View Post

I hate to say it but none of Trump's supporters, even the supposedly religious ones, care that he cheated on his third wife who just had his fifth kid with a porn star who he then illegally used campaign funds to pay her to be quiet and then lied repeatedly about it.

 

 

They're also thinking (the men anyway) "yeah I'd fuck a P0rn Star while my wife was giving birth, if I could."

 

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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post
 

It's either "At least he's not gay", "at least he's not black", "at least he's not an emotional, untrustworthy woman" or "I believe abortion is murder and banning it takes precedent over literally everything else, no matter what the cost".

 

 

And you're not going to be able to reason these people out of these positions, either. Just gotta wait for them to die, and hope to outvote them in the meantime.

 

To your first sentence: The Religious Right made a deal with the devil, and thus far the Devil is delivering. Supreme Court justice, Right leaning justices down the line, support for "religious freedom" (to not employ or do business with anyone they deem un holy), trolling the Left, etc. 


To your second sentence: Look at the video from Charlottesville again. Plenty of Millenials in that group. 

 

This notion that Millenials are like the X-Men and are all highly evolved is some grade A level bullshit.

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Bit late to all this fun (damn timezones), but if you could find a photo of an actual dumpster fire and have him riding away from that, it would make my year.

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NickP is absolutely making my day.
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
 

 

They're also thinking (the men anyway) "yeah I'd fuck a P0rn Star while my wife was giving birth, if I could."

 

 

To your first sentence: The Religious Right made a deal with the devil, and thus far the Devil is delivering. Supreme Court justice, Right leaning justices down the line, support for "religious freedom" (to not employ or do business with anyone they deem un holy), trolling the Left, etc. 


To your second sentence: Look at the video from Charlottesville again. Plenty of Millenials in that group. 

 

This notion that Millenials are like the X-Men and are all highly evolved is some grade A level bullshit.

 

The thing about making deals with the Devil is sooner or later, he comes to collect.

 

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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

 

This notion that Millenials are like the X-Men and are all highly evolved is some grade A level bullshit.

 

If I could flip a switch that suddenly put baby boomers in the voting minority, I'd do so without hesitation. And I suspect you would too.

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Just photoshop a USA on that dumpster and make t-shirts. I'll take two..
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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post
 

 

If I could flip a switch that suddenly put baby boomers in the voting minority, I'd do so without hesitation. And I suspect you would too.

 

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I'm not advocating violence!

 

For the sake of conversation it could be a switch that magically creates higher voter turnout among the 18-35 demographic.

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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

This notion that Millenials are like the X-Men and are all highly evolved is some grade A level bullshit.
But it's so conveniently flattering for Millennials!
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Nothing changes the fact Baby Boomers are the worst generation in the history of the country, and that will be their legacy.

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That's very nice, Amos. It also has no bearing on the fact that plenty of the Generation That Will Lead Us All To An Enlightened Liberal Utopia To Dwell Amidst Wonder And Glory Forever are horrendous, shitty people themselves.
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Equally shitty? No, not even close.

 

Take a look at how support for gay marriage tracks between the two groups. Or Climate Change. Or god blessed interrracial relationships.

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And the flu has over taken me (Why I've had time today to do these)...

Goodnight and I'll leave you with

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Never stop, Nick! We need this.

Need!
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post
 

Which is why I don't understand why this Stormy Daniels situation is a thing. Trump is a hypocrite? YOU DON'T SAY? 

 

Trump, who's president, does things that require the paying of hush money and is willing to pay it.  That's why it should be a thing.  That's why people should be upset.  His philandering is why people should be disgusted.

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Trump, who's president, does things that require the paying of hush money and is willing to pay it.  That's why it should be a thing.  That's why people should be upset.  His philandering is why people should be disgusted.

 

There are a few other important takeaways:

 

1) What required a huge payoff? This is a guy who loves bragging about grabbing pussy, and who hasn't shown an iota of care for his wife's feelings... So either he did something with her that would actually shame him (hard to imagine him feeling shame at anything)... or...

 

2) Don't most pre-nups become invalid in the case of adultery?

 

and lastly...

 

3) This is concrete proof that Drumpf is vulnerable to blackmail*, as he's already been victim to it!

 

* = as opposed to black males, which we've always known he was vulnerable to.

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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post
 

Equally shitty? No, not even close.

 

 

 

Just give them time. The Alt Right Snowflakes from Charlottesville will be in office some day....

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I appreciate your take, but it's statistically untrue. To draw a 1-to-1 comparison between the two groups is intellectually dishonest.

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Never stop, Nick! We need this.

Need!

I can't quit you

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Even if it's just a sense of self righteous SJW optics and wanting to be all self congratulatory that's driving the millennials....at least there's more that probably WILL. And that's at least a start. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still better than not doing the right thing at all..
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I appreciate your take, but it's statistically untrue. To draw a 1-to-1 comparison between the two groups is intellectually dishonest.
Keep telling yourself that.
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There's observable statistical evidence out there, and not just anecdotes about Charlottesville.

 

I feel like you're being willfully obtuse.

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<Dune>IT IS THE LEGEND</Dune>

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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post
 

There's observable statistical evidence out there, and not just anecdotes about Charlottesville.

 

I feel like you're being willfully obtuse.

 


There's also life experience; the same things were said about my generation (Gen X) when I was a teen and in college, and now people in my generation are just as shitty as the Boomers. 

 

They were all nice and open minded and liberal then. After some experience in the workforce, a couple of kids, unhappy marriages etc. they march up to the voting booth to vote GOP.

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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

There's also life experience; the same things were said about my generation (Gen X) when I was a teen and in college, and now people in my generation are just as shitty as the Boomers.

They were all nice and open minded and liberal then. After some experience in the workforce, a couple of kids, unhappy marriages etc. they march up to the voting booth to vote GOP.
But this time will be different, for sure.
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We’re talking about Millenials, who right out of the gate are already way more progressive than Gen-X ever was. Even if a third of them go bad and somehow stop believing climate change exists, or decide trans people are fake, they’re still nowhere close to the selfish pile of waste represented by the baby boomer generation.
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That's nice. They should all give themselves a big pat on the back for it.
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Pfh the Boomers may be the worst, but at least they aren’t History’s. Greatest. MURDERERS (of beloved Boomer industries because debt).
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So here is some of those statistics you likely have in mind Amos:

 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/20/a-wider-partisan-and-ideological-gap-between-younger-older-generations/

 

Here is the last paragraph:

 

The GOP has made large gains among Silents in recent years. Eight years ago, Democrats and Democratic leaners outnumbered Republicans and GOP leaners among Silents by 48% to 40%; in 2016, 49% of Silents identified as Republicans or leaned Republican, while 43% leaned Democratic. The share of Silents who describe themselves as conservative Republicans increased by 9 percentage points over this period, from 27% to 36%.

 

"Silents" are people born between 1971-1988.

 

See the trend? As people get older they tend to get more conservative. But also realize that the Center is now on the Democratic side, while the Republicans have become much more extreme on the social policy side and off the fucking rails when it comes to foreign policy and Nationalism.

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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post

We’re talking about Millenials, who right out of the gate are already way more progressive than Gen-X ever was. Even if a third of them go bad and somehow stop believing climate change exists, or decide trans people are fake, they’re still nowhere close to the selfish pile of waste represented by the baby boomer generation.

 

On the one hand, Millenials are shitty, just in different ways. And I've seen no evidence that they're smarter or less selfish than the generations that preceded them. 

 

On the other, despite the last year's insanity, the overall trend on racial, gender and sexual orientation issues is a good one. Republicans are losing that fight to such a strong degree that many have stopped fighting it, causing a schism in their party.

 

The United States is a better, stronger country than it was 100 years ago. Or 50 years ago. It is worrisome that the last forty years have seen a strong political movement in the wrong direction in nearly every area, from economics to law to immigration to foreign policy. But we're finally seeing some real push back on some of these fronts, which has me believing that these four years will represent the last desperate gasp of the Idiocracy that has been inadvertently dragging this country downward.

 

One way or the other, that will be the Millenials' legacy. Either they save us from Boomers' stupidity, or they instagram their yipper dog in a fake support animal vest peeing in the grocery store while we become the country everyone else refers to as a shithole.

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WHITEHOUSE STAFFER:  "Mr. President, have you seen the news?"

TRUMP: "Oh no, is Stormy talking?"

STAFFER:  "No, someone shot up a school, many casualties"

TRUMP: "Whew, good... so no one's talking about Stormy, right?"

STAFFER: "Uhm, no not really."

TRUMP: "Good"

Trump tosses over his phone.

TRUMP: "Tweet something about thoughts and prayers for me. I'm ready for another diet coke." 

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One way or the other, that will be the Millenials' legacy. Either they save us from Boomers' stupidity, or they instagram their yipper dog in a fake support animal vest peeing in the grocery store while we become the country everyone else refers to as a shithole.

 

Shit.  I can see it now.  We become the planet's trailer park.  We're halfway there already.

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y'all talking about millennials? 

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y'all talking about millennials? 

 

Ewww .... I hope not.  

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In 10 years kids will be voting for whoever eats the most Tide Pods during a primary debate.

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Like we’ll still have elections in ten years.
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I'm not inherently against an increase in the gas tax, but the optics of seeing the wealthy get massive tax cuts while the poor find it harder to drive aren't exactly good:

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373878-trump-supports-25-cent-gas-tax-hike-to-pay-for-infrastructure-report

 

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President Trump on Wednesday said he in favor of a 25-cent gas tax hike to pay for his infrastructure plan.


He told lawmakers and senior White House officials that he endorses a gas tax hike, sources familiar with the meeting told Axios.


Sen. Tom Carper (Del.), the top Democrat on the Environment and Public Works Committee, was in the meeting and confirmed in a statement that the president backed a 25-cent increase. 


“President Trump came back to the idea of a 25 cent increase several times throughout the meeting,” Carper said in a statement. 

 

“While there are a number of issues on which President Trump and I disagree, today, we agreed that things worth having are worth paying for, and the president even offered to help provide the leadership necessary so that we could do something that has proven difficult in the past.”


The administration unveiled an infrastructure proposal earlier this week. It did not include an increase in the gas tax.

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Originally Posted by Amos Orange View Post

In 10 years kids will be voting for whoever eats the most Tide Pods during a primary debate.

Gronk for president?

I do have faith in America though

Stormy Daniels is still only 765 on pornhubs most searches porn star.
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Like we’ll still have elections in ten years.

Does American Idol style internet voting still count as an election?
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I'm not inherently against an increase in the gas tax, but the optics of seeing the wealthy get massive tax cuts while the poor find it harder to drive aren't exactly good:

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373878-trump-supports-25-cent-gas-tax-hike-to-pay-for-infrastructure-report

 

 

There hasn't been a raise in decades. Your gas is so much cheaper than ours, though I get the necessity of that since your public transport in the US is so much more suspect than ours in so many places.

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-us-federal-gas-tax-3321598

 

This is also something they should if not remove the cap on, at least consider raising it much higher than even this. After all, the richer you are, surely the even more able you should be to afford it.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/maximum-social-security-tax-2017-2016-12?IR=T

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More than 100 White House officials - including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and (up until recently) Rob Porter - didn't have full security clearance as of November:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/politics/security-clearances-white-house/index.html

 

But what I want to know is how safeguarded their email practices are.

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y'all talking about millennials? 

Yes, specifically how they are going to be the first ever generation to not turn a hard corner toward conservatism as they age.
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No one's saying that, the argument is even with the supposedly inevitable slide towards conservatism they'll still be demonstrably less shitty as a voting bloc compared to Baby Boomers.

 

I'm surprised that's even a controversial statement.

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Originally Posted by Shan View Post
 

 

There hasn't been a raise in decades. Your gas is so much cheaper than ours, though I get the necessity of that since your public transport in the US is so much more suspect than ours in so many places.

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-us-federal-gas-tax-3321598

 

This is also something they should if not remove the cap on, at least consider raising it much higher than even this. After all, the richer you are, surely the even more able you should be to afford it.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/maximum-social-security-tax-2017-2016-12?IR=T


The problem is that the public transportation in many (most?) of the US sucks balls.

 

I used to have a job that was about 10 minutes away by car but if I wanted to take public trans., it would be at least 1.5 hours. Riding my bicycle would have been at least an hour.

 

Most of our cities are spread out and it's not unheard of to have a 2+ hour commute by car. This is usually due to lack of affordable housing near one's place of work.

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You'll be hearing a lot more about him on television for the next couple of weeks. Where he went to school, his nice mom, his pet dog, his old gym teacher. The body count, and how the cops really didn't have to kill 'em.

 

That's not a tweet about the mainstream media reacting to the Parkland shootings. It's a line John Cassavetes' character says at the end of Two-Minute Warning, a 40-year-old movie about a lone gunman who commits mass murder at a football game. It was a hypothetical situation then. Now? Just another day in America.

Nothing can be said because nothing is being done, and before we start politicizing gun violence, whether in the wake of what happened in Florida, or the last one, or the next one, we need to reclaim our humanity.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

 

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I'm surprised that's even a controversial statement.
I don't think it's a controversial statement, but isn't it all relative?  For example, if we say things are somewhat better for African Americans post Civil Rights Movement, and we give the Boomers some credit for being the young generation who helped push for (or at least went along with) those positive changes, that still doesn't make them any better now. We're undoubtedly in a better place without segregation, but what have you done for me lately, y'know?
 
So while we may eventually ease into a society that is more tolerant of transgender individuals, or might be largely populated by people who don't find it so easy to deny climate change, their fundamental shift towards conservatism as they get older is still probably going to progress at the same rate; and we'll end up going back and forth with new fucksticks who think trickle down economics work, government programs just reward the undeserving, and the progressive causes of the day are bullshit.
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I don't think it's really possible to predict where millennials will end up politically, because the current political status quo is unlikely to exist when they're getting old.

 

Republicans have moved so far towards catering to old white men who also happen to be stupid and evil, that they've already lost the future demographically. Millennials will get more conservative as they age... and still end up considered pinko liberal scum by the Republican base.

 

The question is whether millennials will be smart enough to use their political power to drive the nation... or stupidly get distracted by litmus tests and infighting like they did in 2016.

 

My main source of doubt is the damage that's been done to our public school system. The economy, infrastructure, even climate change are all fixable... by knowledgeable people. But despite growing up in a world where nearly every bit of human knowledge is a Google search away, young people seem as ignorant as ever, often willfully so. There's a large number that are functionally illiterate; they can read, but they can't comprehend any written idea more complex than a tweet. 

 

We have failed them. Now we need them to do better.

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I don't think it's really possible to predict where millennials will end up politically, because the current political status quo is unlikely to exist when they're getting old.

 

Republicans have moved so far towards catering to old white men who also happen to be stupid and evil, that they've already lost the future demographically. Millennials will get more conservative as they age... and still end up considered pinko liberal scum by the CURRENT Republican base.

 

...which will die off in the next 10-20 years, but as I pointed out above, there's a cohort of the rising generation that will take their place, and given what's going on now, they may be even more virulent in some respects than what we're dealing with now. 

 

The GOP today is funhouse mirror distorted version of the Conservative project (cutting taxes and regulations without any apparent thought) and half Neo Nationalist/Neo Merchantalist while the Democrats now have a wing of self proclaimed Socialists (that word was a slur in the 1980's, one that could kill a politician's career). 

 

I think we'll see a complete up ending of existing "Right" and "Left" politics and the parties. I honestly have no idea what will take their place. 

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