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post #401 of 1382
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Hammer also got in on this back in the '60s.



And of course, there are plenty of examples from vampire movies (The Vampire Lovers, Twins of Evil, The Hunger).

I'll be in my bunk.
post #402 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Pither View Post

Hammer also got in on this back in the '60s.



And of course, there are plenty of examples from vampire movies (The Vampire Lovers, Twins of Evil, The Hunger).

Nice Nefertitis
post #403 of 1382

*rush orders Hammer Mummy movie*

post #404 of 1382
Then I guess you'll be disappointed when you get Christopher Lee covered in plaster. Specificity, my child. That image is of Valerie Leon in Blood from the Mummy's Tomb. If we're being real here, Hammer's Mummy films aren't nearly as good as their Dracula/vampire and Frankenstein movies.

I am kind of curious as to what BruceL's point was. This Mummy film is clearly not a horror film, but a supernatural action film, so expecting the antagonist to be horror movie scary doesn't really make sense. However, he seems to be implying that casting an attractive female as a supernatural antagonist that would hypothetically be designed to frighten you is a losing battle, which is an argument that has decades of cinematic history going against it.

I'm not interested in this film, but I would like to see Sofia Boutella do well as I think she has an extraordinary presence and is at the very least a capable actress. She's in the process of building a career, as opposed to the least appealing aspect of this film, which is watching Cruise and Crowe desperately try to maintain theirs.
post #405 of 1382
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Then I guess you'll be disappointed when you get Christopher Lee covered in plaster. Specificity, my child. That image is of Valerie Leon in Blood from the Mummy's Tomb.

 

*grumblemuttergrumble*

post #406 of 1382
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Then I guess you'll be disappointed when you get Christopher Lee covered in plaster. Specificity, my child. That image is of Valerie Leon in Blood from the Mummy's Tomb. If we're being real here, Hammer's Mummy films aren't nearly as good as their Dracula/vampire and Frankenstein movies.

I am kind of curious as to what BruceL's point was. This Mummy film is clearly not a horror film, but a supernatural action film, so expecting the antagonist to be horror movie scary doesn't really make sense. However, he seems to be implying that casting an attractive female as a supernatural antagonist that would hypothetically be designed to frighten you is a losing battle, which is an argument that has decades of cinematic history going against it.

I'm not interested in this film, but I would like to see Sofia Boutella do well as I think she has an extraordinary presence and is at the very least a capable actress. She's in the process of building a career, as opposed to the least appealing aspect of this film, which is watching Cruise and Crowe desperately try to maintain theirs.


​Well, to be fair, Cruise trying to maintain his career gave us ​Edge of Tomorrow and that gave us this:

 

post #407 of 1382
Wasn't it Robert Englund that notoriously said women could never be scary? Or was that Belushi? Horror was a real boys club in the 80s.
post #408 of 1382
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Then I guess you'll be disappointed when you get Christopher Lee covered in plaster. Specificity, my child. That image is of Valerie Leon in Blood from the Mummy's Tomb. If we're being real here, Hammer's Mummy films aren't nearly as good as their Dracula/vampire and Frankenstein movies.
 

I'll go to bat for The Mummy. There's a nice atmosphere of fog-covered moors and bogs, Peter Cushing is dependably good, and Lee manages quite a lot with little more than his eyes to work with. The opening scenes set in Egypt aren't terribly convincing, though. Blood From the Mummy's Tomb is also solid, if a bit muddled.

post #409 of 1382
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I'll go to bat for The Mummy. There's a nice atmosphere of fog-covered moors and bogs, Peter Cushing is dependably good, and Lee manages quite a lot with little more than his eyes to work with. The opening scenes set in Egypt aren't terribly convincing, though. Blood From the Mummy's Tomb is also solid, if a bit muddled.

THE MUMMY is absolutely top-tier Hammer.

 

BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB has some interesting ideas, but it surely would have been stronger if Peter Cushing had been able to remain on the project and if its director hadn't died during filming!

post #410 of 1382
The first Hammer Mummy. The Lee/Cushing 1958 one is the one. That's the best Mummy movie ever. Ever. It's kind of paradoxical in that it seems long as fuck....but I don't mean that to say that it drags or is boring. It's just that they packed a LOT of movie into it's 88 minutes. And it's a visually stunning film. One of my favorite Hammers bar none. Just class top to bottom..
post #411 of 1382
Yeah, the Lee/Cushing Mummy is aces.
post #412 of 1382
I guess I wasn't fully aware that Hammer made five Mummy movies. I just got a Hammer 5 movie pack on the cheap and it has "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb" in it. Not even sure if I've seen that one.

I always liked the tagline for "The Mummy's Shroud":



"Beware the beat of the cloth - wrapped feet!" If you say so.

Now "Blood From the Mummy's Tomb" I have seen, several times. Valerie Leon is where it's at.



It's a pretty good adaptation of a Stoker story... Universal would probably be better served if they just did their own version with this new movie.
post #413 of 1382
Curse of the Mummy's Tomb is kinda weak sauce. It's worth a watch I guess but it's a far cry from Hammer's first. I've never seen The Mummy's Shroud. I wasn't aware they did five either..
post #414 of 1382
Yeah, I see now that "Curse" is a Michael Carreras joint, who's not the best... He did, though, have a hand in "Blood" after its director died, as Belloq mentioned upthread.

Maybe I'll watch it tonight, and see.
Edited by Slim - 4/8/17 at 4:11pm
post #415 of 1382
I remember Curse having a couple of good scenes, but it really takes its time getting to them. Another thing I've always appreciated about Lee's Mummy is his relative speed. With Universal's series from the '40s, for instance, it's often difficult to believe that people can't outrun Kharis.
post #416 of 1382
It may have THE worst shot in a studio "outside" scene in film history..
post #417 of 1382
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Wasn't it Robert Englund that notoriously said women could never be scary? Or was that Belushi? Horror was a real boys club in the 80s.


I learned from the AV Club that Belushi didn't think women can be funny. A couple of weeks ago I saw Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, so I know women can be scary.

post #418 of 1382
Yeah, I was making a joke. sigh
post #419 of 1382
I know women can be scary. I'm married... Don't for get to tip your waiters, folks.

So: "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb". Yes, very generic, with a couple of decent mummy kills. Short on sexy, and short on gravtas thanks to the middling cast. It's entirely possible that I have seen this one before and just forgot (it wasn't in my VHS Hammer collection anyway).

Think I'll spin the Lee/Cushing one tonight as a palette cleanser, now.
post #420 of 1382
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I like mummy returns

I mean, any movie that has THAT proscenium moment of Vosloo hopping into frame and going "NAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!"

is doing something right!

 

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Late, but everything bout this gif makes me giggle.  The craptastic framing particularly.

 

I like to imagine Vosloo isn't Imhotep here, but the original VFX supervisor.  He left the project for family reasons and is only now getting a look at how the Scorpion King render turned out.

 

"What the Faaaaaaack!"

post #421 of 1382
Yeah, they needed to cut to a tighter shot on Vosloo as he crouches. Cut on action, follow the emotion, etc.
post #422 of 1382
Don't school Stephen Sommers on emotion!

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post #423 of 1382

International Trailer.  More footage.

 

post #424 of 1382

Frankly the biggest - only? - draw for me is Crowe as Henry Jekyll. Everything about the titular monster looks MEH as fuck.

post #425 of 1382

Cruise's line reading of 'where's your sense of adventure' is...not good.  That needed another take.

 

The bit about the parachute later on falls flat as well.

 

I'll be honest, this new trailer makes me cringe a bit in terms of the dialog.  I might be skipping this after all.

post #426 of 1382

Without positive reactions from trusted sources, this'll be a rental or wait-for-streaming-services flick. Which bums me out.

post #427 of 1382
Just pretend it's another Jack Reacher movie.
post #428 of 1382
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Just pretend it's another Jack Reacher movie.

Then they must be giving Cruise way too many lines because his "acting" is showing.
post #429 of 1382
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Just pretend it's another Jack Reacher movie.

 

Considering how much I despised the second REACHER movie, I'll refrain from your suggestion.

post #430 of 1382
You loved it!
post #431 of 1382
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You loved it!

 

No, I didn't.  I loved the first one, absolutely detested the second one to the point that I honestly rate it as the single worst Tom Cruise movie that I've ever seen.  HATE is not a strong enough word for how I feel about that fucking movie.

post #432 of 1382
Maybe pretend it's another first Jack Reacher movie?
post #433 of 1382
My friend was watching Reacher 2 on the plane a few weeks back. He turned it off after the first 15 minutes.
post #434 of 1382
I never saw Reacher 2, and you guys sure aren't selling me on it!
post #435 of 1382

what is it about the marketing for this movie that keeps making Cruise sound weird?

post #436 of 1382
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HATE is not a strong enough word for how I feel about that fucking movie.

 

Hate is now what you really feel...what you feel is...EXCITEMENT!!!....to watch something else.

post #437 of 1382

I kind of feel like I almost have to support this movie on principle.  As a huge fan of Universal's Classic Monsters, I know that if his movie fails, we'll likely never get any other monster movies from Universal in the future, and I'd genuinely like to see new takes on THE INVISIBLE MAN and CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, for example.

post #438 of 1382
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what is it about the marketing for this movie that keeps making Cruise sound weird?

They probably haven't ADR'd his lines yet.
post #439 of 1382
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

what is it about the marketing for this movie that keeps making Cruise sound weird?

 

Cruise is in a Mummy movie. Cruise is in a Mummy movie.

 

Keep saying that and you'll begin to remember when we first heard about his casting. 

post #440 of 1382

I just wish they'd rebooted this with Vosloo.  Make the first two Fraser movies canon and pick up the story in the modern age.  Enough people have strong enough 'good' memories of those films (especially the first one) that you'd have some goodwill going into this endeavor.  

 

Whatever.

post #441 of 1382
"We have a bold, brand new take on 'The Mummy.'"

"Cool. What's it called?"

"'The Mummy.'"
post #442 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

I just wish they'd rebooted this with Vosloo.  Make the first two Fraser movies canon and pick up the story in the modern age.  Enough people have strong enough 'good' memories of those films (especially the first one) that you'd have some goodwill going into this endeavor.  

 

Whatever.

 

Yep. They could've easily built on/improved the mythology behind the monster. Hell, they could've gone the way of LOGAN and treated the earlier films as essentially campfire story versions.

post #443 of 1382
Universal probably doesn't want to pay Stephen Sommers an Exec Producer fee, and Kurtzman probably wants to create his own super-serious approach that isn't beholden to someone else's vision.
post #444 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

"We have a bold, brand new take on 'The Mummy.'"

"Cool. What's it called?"

"'The Mummy.'"

 

It really does have the same exact plot and characteristics of Sommers' film. So fucking lazy. 

post #445 of 1382
Mummy Dearest
post #446 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Universal probably doesn't want to pay Stephen Sommers an Exec Producer fee, and Kurtzman probably wants to create his own super-serious approach that isn't beholden to someone else's vision.

 

Probably, but that doesn't change the fact that the first MUMMY film was a bona fide hit with an actual following to it.  The second one wasn't great but it also didn't suck, so there's still some goodwill towards those films overall (especially since most people have plain forgotten the third entry).

 

Those films have a FUN feel to them.  The marketing on this new one completely lacks that FUN feeling.  Hopefully I'm wrong, because this type of film is otherwise completely within my wheelhouse.

post #447 of 1382

I hated Mummy Returns when it came out. It was like Sommers remade his own movie. 

post #448 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
 

I hated Mummy Returns when it came out. It was like Sommers remade his own movie. 

 

I didn't hate it, but it felt like a complete rush job (especially in the special effects department).  It also suffered a bit from 'too many notes' syndrome, a common ailment among sequels who try to outdo the first film (see AGE OF ULTRON).  But there's a lot of good stuff in there.  My bad opinion of the film has mellowed over the years.

post #449 of 1382
"The Mummy Returns" has a textbook "and then..." script.
post #450 of 1382
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"The Mummy Returns" has a textbook "and then..." script.

 

And then they get into a balloon pirate ship.

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