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post #651 of 1382
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

You can pretty much turn off THE MUMMY RETURNS after the museum/bus set pieces.

 

Agreed, although you miss some peak Vosloo if you do that.

post #652 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post

The first one is legitimately great.  The second one is OK with some awesome moments to it.
The 2nd one is what I meant when I said "Scorpion King". Returns has some good stuff but the past lives, the blimp, the kid, the shitty way they brought Imhotep back and the terrible CGI for the Rock. Just ugh.

The less said about the 3rd one the better.
post #653 of 1382

The past lives bullshit is so dumb. So so dumb. Not needed and it just creates complications where none are required.

post #654 of 1382

Those first two Mummy movies contained PEAK WEISZ. 

 

Whoever the actress is in this, she'll never be able to compete with PEAK WEISZ. 

post #655 of 1382
oh god... Maria Bello replacing her in the third one was SOOOOO WEEEEIRD!!!
post #656 of 1382
I have nothing against Bello, but writing out the character entirely would've been better than that dopey idea.
post #657 of 1382
right! Maria Bello is fantastic in most anything else! But that recast is sooooooo weird!!!

WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA???
post #658 of 1382

Would you agree that it was not a weisz move?

post #659 of 1382

Not just a recast, but (re)introducing her as having written a series of novels about their exploits. Meaning the first two movies were the book version of Evelyn, and the Bello version is the "real" one.

 

Don't like that at all.

post #660 of 1382
By the time my brain had adjusted to the sight of Bello standing where Weisz should have been, I was prepared for Yetis playing football and a Mummy who turns into Ghidrah. The casting was a useful distraction, possibly even a life saving one, in that the initial brain damage made it possible for me to roll with what came afterward.
post #661 of 1382
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No one.
Not true!
post #662 of 1382

Yeah, recasting Weisz was weird. And dumb. Especially when having Evey passed away right away creates all sorts of interesting narrative possibilities:

 

  • An older, embittered Rick isolates himself
  • His grown son blames Rick or doesn't respect him anymore
  • Jonathan remains Jonathan but sides with the son
  • Rick now wonders about the barriers of life and death and might be willing to do something rash to get Evey back
  • Imhotep and other supernatural entities yearning for revenge

 

Instead, we get a heap of awful shit. I've never made it more than 20 minutes into the third film.

post #663 of 1382

if it comes down to having to have Evey be dead in the third movie because Weisz was too busy or was uninterested, then the only movie really was to not make the movie at all

 

but the machine must keep churning

post #664 of 1382
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post

Instead, we get a heap of awful shit. I've never made it more than 20 minutes into the third film.
I haven't either. Me and my buddy actually went to the theater and gave it a try but yeah....we peaced out somewhere around the 20 minute mark, give or take, and I've never even thought about giving it another shot. And I say that as someone who really likes The Wolfman, warts and all, (I gotta stop with the qualifiers) and likes The Mummy Returns pretty much top to bottom. Even that fucked up, goofy CGI Dwayne Johnson at the end. Mummy 3 really is THAT bad.

Speaking of the Rock lobster...it's amazing how even in 2001 my jaw DROPPED when that thing came out fully into the light. I give it a slight pass because I know the story behind that thing. From what I understand, ILM was rushed on The Mummy Returns probably worse than any other film they've ever worked on and were stretched thin anyway due to Harry Potter, A.I., Pearl Harbor and Planet of the Apes.

Honestly, I think the ending would've been better if The Rock had just appeared at the end as he did at the start of the film and Fraser and Vosloo had to go Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon on him. It would've solved several problems..
post #665 of 1382

perhaps have the live-action Rock appear... but just with CG pincers!  That would still make him Scorpion-ish right???

post #666 of 1382

Never saw the third one in its entirety.  I caught a lot of the third act (lots of yetis and terracotta soldiers fighting iirc) and it didn't look terrible, but the NO-WEISZ factor was definitely hanging over everything.  I really like Maria Bello in almost everything that I've seen her in, but she was wrong for this.

 

And MUMMY RETURNS is definitely peak Wiesz.  I rather enjoyed her fight scenes, both in flashbacks as the princess and in the 'modern' setting.

 

 

post #667 of 1382
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perhaps have the live-action Rock appear... but just with CG pincers!  That would still make him Scorpion-ish right???
He didn't even need that. He could've had a couple huge CGI scorpions with him that do his bidding lol. Or even just a shield with a scorpion emblem on it..
post #668 of 1382

Weisz' eyebrows in the first one were distractingly weird but she was so incredibly superhot in the second one. She was very very charismatic in both, pretty much the whole cast was. It's weird that such bad movies were so great.

post #669 of 1382
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Originally Posted by BruceL View Post
 

Weisz' eyebrows in the first one were distractingly weird but she was so incredibly superhot in the second one. She was very very charismatic in both, pretty much the whole cast was. It's weird that such bad movies were so great.

 

Weisz has been and always shall be a beautiful woman.  She was incredibly fit for MUMMY RETURNS, though.  I'm sure that some of that fight footage used body doubles/stunt women, but there's enough of her in there to show that she was in incredible shape for that movie.

post #670 of 1382

Ironically though the Scorpion King in The Mummy Returns is horrible, his solo movie is actually kind of fun. Kind of a dumber, more self-aware Conan. 

 

I mean, the first thing Johnson does when he appears is the "people's eyebrow," so you know the movie knows what it's doing.

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post #672 of 1382
I actually really dig The Rock in the opening scene..
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post #674 of 1382
"Scorpion King" has the wonderful Godsmack song, "I Stand Alone."
post #675 of 1382
Godsmack is really really really really good.
post #676 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

Speaking of the Rock lobster...it's amazing how even in 2001 my jaw DROPPED when that thing came out fully into the light. I give it a slight pass because I know the story behind that thing. From what I understand, ILM was rushed on The Mummy Returns probably worse than any other film they've ever worked on and were stretched thin anyway due to Harry Potter, A.I., Pearl Harbor and Planet of the Apes.

I remember being absolutely stunned by how awful that effect looked when I first saw it.  I'm still stunned, frankly.  It's just an amazingly bad creation.

 

The effects work in the movie actually gets worse as it goes along.  The bus chase stuff with the mummies looks pretty good, but by the time we get to giant CG water faces, blimps, and mummy pygmies, you can tell ILM had their E or F team working on it.  The Scorpion King monster is the ultimate culmination of bad effects in the film.

post #677 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

I actually really dig The Rock in the opening scene..

Absolutely! It's plain as day why the studio decided on the spot to star him in a prequel while they were shooting Mummy 2's prologue scenes out in the desert. It's a crime that they didn't let the real performer's natural charisma work for them in the big finale. Put some animatronic lobster claw mittens on him and he might have salvaged that train wreck.
post #678 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Belloq87 View Post

I remember being absolutely stunned by how awful that effect looked when I first saw it.  I'm still stunned, frankly.  It's just an amazingly bad creation.

The effects work in the movie actually gets worse as it goes along.  The bus chase stuff with the mummies looks pretty good, but by the time we get to giant CG water faces, blimps, and mummy pygmies, you can tell ILM had their E or F team working on it.  The Scorpion King monster is the ultimate culmination of bad effects in the film.
The Mummy Returns almost rivals Spawn in the schizophrenic FX quality department. Some of the stuff in it looks as good as you could hope for..
post #679 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Call Me Roy View Post

Godsmack is really really really really good.

post #680 of 1382
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I was maybe a bit gracious in my assumption that any level of sarcasm could be obtained in my comment.

In any case, they have a song called "I Stand Alone" on the soundtrack?

I am assuming that is the battlecry of the meth-addled, cousin fucker who will still admit to actually enjoying Godsmack.

To each his own!!
post #681 of 1382
Roy is my new enemy!
post #682 of 1382
Then I stand honored to have such a reputable adversary.
post #683 of 1382
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Then I stand honored to have such a reputable adversary.

 

Who would that be then?

post #684 of 1382
Daaaaang... Talk about a "godsmack".
post #685 of 1382

I'm gobsmacked that anyone could like Godsmack. 

post #686 of 1382
We are allies.
post #687 of 1382

The marketing dept has gone into full PLEASE SEE THIS MOVIE mode.

 

post #688 of 1382

I somehow missed that Christopher McQuarrie wrote this? It must take quite a lot of suck to be able to mess up a McQuarrie script, but the rumors suggest Kurtzman has done the impossible, don't they?

post #689 of 1382

Kinda thinking that Cruise become 'the mummy' by the end of the film.  They're definitely pushing that in this new trailer, it seems.

post #690 of 1382
I been thinking that since that shot of him sitting up in the morgue..
post #691 of 1382

It's a lot more blatant in that trailer.

post #692 of 1382
Spoilers are getting heavy then. May avoid everything from here on out because I'm curious to see this. I hope it surprises everyone..
post #693 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

The marketing dept has gone into full PLEASE SEE THIS MOVIE mode.

 

To which I reply:

 

...nah. 

post #694 of 1382
I'm pretty sure the 1999 remake is spoilers for this movie.
post #695 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

I'm pretty sure the 1999 remake is spoilers for this movie.
I'm pretty sure even without that movie, I can guess 90% of the things that are gonna happen. None of it is gonna "surprise" me...I'd just rather not see every money shot it has in any way other than watching the whole film. Russell Crowe's part interests me more than anything else to be honest..
post #696 of 1382
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

Kinda thinking that Cruise become 'the mummy' by the end of the film.  

 

Surely he'd just be the Living Dead Guy?

post #697 of 1382

What a weirdly structured trailer. If that was the only thing you saw, you'd think the entire movie was Cruise and Generic Blonde Female Lead running from exploding buildings and Cruise being tossed around. The humor is so poorly juxtaposed with the horror and action elements. You could say it felt....Frankensteined.

 

Thanks. I'll be here all week.

 

And that really weird scream of his pops up TWICE this time. I almost want to see it in the theater just to experience that LOUD.

post #698 of 1382

So, Universal is going all-in on these films, calling the shared universe the "Dark Universe," confirming that the next one is Bill Condon's Bride of Frankenstein (released in Feb 2019), and announcing that Javier Bardem and Johnny Depp will be Frankenstein's Monster and the Invisible Man, respectively.

 

http://deadline.com/2017/05/tom-cruise-the-mummy-dark-universe-brand-universal-bride-of-frankenstein-bill-condon-1202099658/

post #699 of 1382
Russell Crowe's Jekyll and Hyde is the thing that interests me most about any of this so far. I really dig what little I've seen of the Hyde look. Provided that pic was the extent of it, I appreciate how he doesn't turn into some stupid CGI Hulk beast. It looks much more subtle and creepy.

That being said, count me among the unsurprised when this whole endeavor faceplants. But I'm with it till it does I guess..
post #700 of 1382

I'm with Fraid on this one...Crowe's Jekyl is the thing that interests me.

 

And again...they tried a big shared universe thing with VAN HELSING.  Had that been successful, I'm sure that Sommers would be the Kevin Fiege of Universal Studios right now.  We know how that all turned out.

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