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post #2051 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

I also watched TFA again yesterday. I still like it, too.

So better than R1.
post #2052 of 5022

better than lalaland

post #2053 of 5022
...

Nah.
post #2054 of 5022

Star Wars: Finn's Falalalaland 

post #2055 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

...

Nah.

better than nahnahland

 

better than star war: rey's enchanted life day - a star war holiday special story

post #2056 of 5022
You know what TFA is better than?

All Marvel, especially the desaturated shakycam darling that is THE WINTER SOLIDIER.

But I'll concede that TWS is better than R1. Hell, I rather watch IRON MAN 2.
post #2057 of 5022
OH NO HE DIDN'T

(yes yes go on stocks)
post #2058 of 5022
I could do this all day.
post #2059 of 5022

mmm what a fabulous line from a fabulous character from a fabulous cinnamon universe

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post #2061 of 5022
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mmm what a fabulous line from a fabulous character from a fabulous cinnamon universe

So noble.

So pure hearted.

So boring.
post #2062 of 5022

I like gentle steve!

 

his basicness is disarming!

post #2063 of 5022

I like how all of these characters deaths are so calculated. All their faces turning toward the danger, knowing. No fear.  Every shot the same. Every expression the same. The exception given to the blind guy with the stick (which has its own telegraphed problems), but everybody else gets their eyes toward the explosion. 

 

This movie is so goofy. 

post #2064 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

I like gentle steve!

his basicness is disarming!

Steve will only earn my respect he does this to Sharon Carter.



Again, better than all Marvel.
post #2065 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

lol, like this was ever going to bomb or even do mediocre business.  It's Star Warrrrrrr.  It is immune to financial failure (it's already at $615M).  See the prequels.

Yarp.

It's almost as if they could have been much more creative and adventurous with the story they told in The Force Awakens.

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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

You want a BALLSY character-killing ending in a major movie franchise?

BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES reigns supreme! Its ending KILLS EVERYONE!

Except you, and all those who piled onto your jaunty BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES bandwagon, were just a little too late Agent Sands ... like the UTTER GENIUS I am I had already clearly and explicitly defined the era of interest as post-Bond and Planet of the Apes.

Which was, ironically, also the only reason it came to mind for you in the first place ADMIT IT!



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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

I like how all of these characters deaths are so calculated. All their faces turning toward the danger, knowing. No fear.  Every shot the same. Every expression the same. The exception given to the blind guy with the stick (which has its own telegraphed problems), but everybody else gets their eyes toward the explosion. 

This movie is so goofy.

The movie literally couldn't make it any more clear that Baze is looking directly at Chirrut when he gets it. And that Jyn and Cassian are embracing and so can't possibly both be facing the explosion.

I'm forced to conclude that you (and anyone who supported you by thumbs-upping your post) are just objectively bad at watching movies Carno.
post #2066 of 5022

the bucho cannot win

 

see him flail

post #2067 of 5022
Oh ...

... but he already has.


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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

If there was no original star war, this movie would literally not exist.  And even if it did in some alternate dimension, it would not kill every hero.  Because there would be no context for the greater victory to live on.

Even GLORY... you know that our heroes died for a cause that eventually won.  We have that context for GLORY.  And ROGUE ONE has that on an even larger commercially friendly scale.

Already brilliantly accounted for ...
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post

... if there was no A New Hope then Rogue One wouldn't end with plans being sent to some random lady with a moon-sized super-weapon still fully operational, a greater triumph would be required as a pay-off for KILLING EVERY HERO. Like instead of the dish beaming plans to Admiral Raddus, it beams a laser into the Death Star's reactor.

Please keep up.


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Mmm... defending your position by describing my alternate ending as an IDIOTIC COCK-UP because it's still a family film?  Sounds like some concessions made to please the whole family.  NOT BWOLLZY.

On the BALLSY scale: KILLING EVERY HERO in a family film > KILLING EVERY HERO in a non-family film.

That's just good science.


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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Also... I don't know if Ripley also dying at the end of ALIEN would've resulted in a movie held in as high an esteem as it is now.  Because killing everyone would sacrifice the 'last woman standing' survival element of the film that people connected to (I think?)  Also, correct me if I'm wrong... but was the threat of the alien getting to Earth ever an actual threat in that original film?  I don't recall Ripley acting from some greater sense of purpose other than pure survival.

People connect to films of sacrifice just as they do to survival, hence 300, Glory, Rogue One etc. Changing it from 'last woman standing' to 'ultimate sacrifice' wouldn't make it any less connectable, and would likely make Ripley even more of a legend if anything. As for the end, that's how you emphasize the victory for the greater good. She's headed for home when the bad guy appears again and knows that if she doesn't stop it then it gets to Earth.
post #2068 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post


Steve will only earn my respect he does this to Sharon Carter.



Again, better than all Marvel.

ew, steve doing that would be so gross

 

the THINKPIECES

post #2069 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

the bucho cannot win

see him flail
We've got him on the ropes now!
post #2070 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post


Already brilliantly accounted for ...
Please keep up.
On the BALLSY scale: KILLING EVERY HERO in a family film > KILLING EVERY HERO in a non-family film.

That's just good science.
People connect to films of sacrifice just as they do to survival, hence 300, Glory, Rogue One etc. Changing it from 'last woman standing' to 'ultimate sacrifice' wouldn't make it any less connectable, and would likely make Ripley even more of a legend if anything. As for the end, that's how you emphasize the victory for the greater good. She's headed for home when the bad guy appears again and knows that if she doesn't stop it then it gets to Earth.

 

Still don't buy the film connecting as it did with Ripley dying as well.  

 

Both this and your alternate version of ROGUE ONE... that you told me to account for, which I did when I said that there would never be a ROGUE ONE without the star war franchise as it is... are all such wild hypotheticals that they're more fun what-ifs as opposed to any kind of 'good science'.

 

KILLING EVERY HERO in a family film would be greater than killing every hero in a non-family film....  if it wasn't ROGUE ONE with its Vader porn and Leia hope tag to make sure to send the family out on CG monster delights.

 

The only thing BALLSY about ROGUE ONE is that they went forward with CG monsters.

 

Killing all the heroes?  Much appreciated in the context of bland blockbusters.   But not BWOLLZY.

post #2071 of 5022
I think Rogue One is better on a second viewing.
post #2072 of 5022

I think some people have mentioned that!

 

Now that you know the first half of the movie is off, you can go in expecting it! 

 

steeling yourself for it

 

preparing for the pain...

post #2073 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

I think Rogue One is better on a second viewing.
I'll never know if that's true!
post #2074 of 5022
Also, didn't people initially say the same thing about FORWAKENS?
post #2075 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

Also, didn't people initially say the same thing about FORWAKENS?
Yes. Yes they did.
post #2076 of 5022
My favorite part is when Jyn and Cassian hug at the end.
post #2077 of 5022
bradbait
post #2078 of 5022
Not enough hugging in these movies.
post #2079 of 5022
forwakens had some nice platonic hugging!
post #2080 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Not enough hugging in these movies.
STAR HUGS

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post #2081 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Still don't buy the film connecting as it did with Ripley dying as well.

Next you'll be saying The Iron Giant would have connected better if he lived.


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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

KILLING EVERY HERO in a family film would be greater than killing every hero in a non-family film....  if it wasn't ROGUE ONE with its Vader porn and Leia hope tag to make sure to send the family out on CG monster delights.

That's not how BALLSYness works.
post #2082 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post



That's not how BALLSYness works.

sure it does!

 

 

Iron Giant DID live...  (and I know you know that, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by joking about it...)

 

Andy and Red DO reunite at the end of Shawshank!

post #2083 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post

Next you'll be saying The Iron Giant would have connected better if he lived.

.....did he not live? Don't we see the parts come alive?
post #2084 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post

Yarp.

It's almost as if they could have been much more creative and adventurous with the story they told in The Force Awakens.

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Except you, and all those who piled onto your jaunty BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES bandwagon, were just a little too late Agent Sands ... like the UTTER GENIUS I am I had already clearly and explicitly defined the era of interest as post-Bond and Planet of the Apes.

Which was, ironically, also the only reason it came to mind for you in the first place ADMIT IT!
The movie literally couldn't make it any more clear that Baze is looking directly at Chirrut when he gets it. And that Jyn and Cassian are embracing and so can't possibly both be facing the explosion.

I'm forced to conclude that you (and anyone who supported you by thumbs-upping your post) are just objectively bad at watching movies Carno.

Okay so what. Looking at each other. Looking at explosions. Looking all over the place. Looking at DEATH! It's half assed broad strokes storytelling ramming it in my head that they are heros making sacrifices. It's super lame! So put that in your objective pipe and smoke it!
post #2085 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

STAR HUGS

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Yes, yes... More!
post #2086 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Yes, yes... More!
That's all you get for now
post #2087 of 5022
Brad... google
post #2088 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

Brad... google
Shhhhhhh
post #2089 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

ew, steve doing that would be so gross

the THINKPIECES

That's why it must happen!
post #2090 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

Also, didn't people initially say the same thing about FORWAKENS?

It did for me!

Of course that was a whole year later.
post #2091 of 5022
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

Okay so what.

So you're wrong Carno. Just so, so wrong.

Yet another victory for Jyn and the Rogue One team.
post #2092 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Iron Giant DID live...  (and I know you know that, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by joking about it...)

It's either irony or sarcasm. There's no way to tell.
post #2093 of 5022

look at bucho flail

 

reminds me of...

 

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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post


It's either irony or sarcasm. There's no way to tell.
 

I know what it is...

 

flailing

 

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post #2094 of 5022
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

look at bucho flail

reminds me of...

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I know what it is...

flailing

You already rendered your opinions on Rogue One invalid when you thumbs-upped Carno's objectively wrong post.

Neither of you have even seen the film.

The sooner you admit it the sooner you can begin to heal.
post #2095 of 5022

I thumbs-upped Carno's post because I enjoy petty upturned noses at fictional sacrifices.

 

I thumbs-up stuff I don't necessarily agree with all the time!

 

Lookit you flail

 

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more hugs for Brad!  much love!

 

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trying to remember any hugs in the prequels... and all I can think of are the awkward/creepy ones between hayden and padme and the mother/son ones between Shmi and Curooskunt

 

HOLD ME!  HOLD ME LIKE YOU DID THAT TIME ON NUBBOO!!!

 

 

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no wonder brad likes these movies!


Edited by mcnooj82 - 1/1/17 at 3:42pm
post #2096 of 5022
You can't win Darth.

In the end you shall see your error and throw Emperor Carnotine down a shaft.

Oh wait, you already did.
post #2097 of 5022

you are flailing!

 

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post #2098 of 5022
If I could throw a little middle-path gas on the fire, I asked Mrs. Slim about the question at hand and she said she found the Full Party Kill not particularly innovative but also entirely appropriate. "It was a long shot mission, right? Seemed pretty organic that they weren't getting out."
post #2099 of 5022

MRS SLIM IS WISE!!!

MRS SLIM IS DIVINE!!!

 

post #2100 of 5022
I'm a little miffed that nobody bothered to engage at all with this longish post of mine, which was an earnest attempt to grapple with the film's strengths and weaknesses!
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I like the opening scene of this movie. Conceptually, it's not anything special, but it's well-written and well-acted (Mendelsohn does so much with so little in this movie) and well-edited and has some genuine visual scope. It's the one sequence in ROGUE ONE where everything more or less feels in-sync.

And when I talk of visual scope, what I mean is this sense of genuinely spectacular vistas that don't seem to have been created in a computer. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they were digitally manipulated in some way, but it nevertheless feels tactile and expansive.

Edwards, in general, has a "bigger" visual sensibility than Abrams just because he's willing to pull the camera back more. But those pretty CGI-filled money shots that everyone seems to love don't mean as much to me as that opening sequence (in no small part because the opening sequence feels cued-in to a clear dramatic throughline in a way that a lot of the showier images in this movie aren't).

But, a handful of moments aside, Edwards and his collaborators do a much worse job of directing the dialogue-centric scenes in this movie than Abrams does in FORWAKENS (and it's not like Abrams is magnificent at this stuff). Lots of generic shakycam close-ups and bland staging.
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