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post #251 of 971

Just finished White House Down. Jesus Christ that was dumb. Even if I thought my expectations were tempered by knowing it was a Rolan Emmerich joint, and seeing Olympus Has Fallen. Great actors though (Woods, Clarke, Jenkins, Gyllenhaal). Would've been a lot more entertaining if it'd been made now, with Alec Baldwin as the President and Melissa McCartney as Sean Spicer.

post #252 of 971

White House Down is great!

post #253 of 971

Would've benefitted from an R-rating. Especially James Woods' demise looked silly as fuck without a drop of blood.

post #254 of 971
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White House Down is great!

 

It's a lot of fun, but I prefer Olympus Has Fallen.

post #255 of 971
The Fifth Element is getting a very limited theatrical re-release today and Wednesday, in celebration of the film's 20th anniversary.

I think we're all pretty much on board with this movie and have been for years, but reading Vince Mancini's look back at the film was like falling in love with it all over again.

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It has that quality common to a lot of cult films, which is that it’s overwhelming and convoluted upon first watch, but has so many layers that each subsequent viewing is rewarding in some way. (Notably, virtually all of The Fifth Element‘s layers are visual.) Cult films (and shows, and albums) are always a little like the scab you can’t stop picking. But even more than that, I think The Fifth Element illustrates that creativity is more important than coherence, that inspiration is more important than plot, and that you should listen when your gut tells you you’re onto something, even if you can’t quite articulate it perfectly.
post #256 of 971
There are aspects of Fifth Element that I still love. But there are others I have a hard time re-watching, like Tucker and that love is the fifth element that saves the universe.  
 
I was a curmudgeony dickhead even in my 20's!
post #257 of 971

I enjoy Tucker's performance much more now than I did then. The thing that bugs me now is, how come Leeloo can fight off a whole bunch of Mondoshawans but Zorg and his gun are too much?

post #258 of 971
The Fifth Element is 20 years old. Maybe the most depressing thing I've read all day. The Lost World, Men in Black, Face/Off, Spawn, Alien: Resurrection, Batman & Robin, Starship Troopers, Titanic and Tomorrow Never Dies. All movies that were a decade old a decade ago. Christ.

Here's the part where I sit and rethink my life for a while..
post #259 of 971
It's amazing that something like Starship Troopers has only gotten better in 20 years. The satire on display has sharpened with age.
post #260 of 971
Everything about Starship Troopers has aged INCREDIBLY well. If that movie came out today...just as it is....I think people would still be praising the FX work. And on top of that I think the audience of today would've "gotten" the film more and might actually have made it a hit. It's like Verhoeven's The Thing. Ignored upon release but given 20 years it's now a pretty highly thought of movie.

It might even be my favorite Verhoeven film now. I dunno. RoboCop and Total Recall are tough to beat though. That's definitely his holy trinity..
post #261 of 971
The duo of Robocop and Starship form a better dyptych without Total Recall. The former have a lot more on their mind than than the latter.
post #262 of 971
Thread Starter 

Tucker's performance in The Fifth Element is, in my humble, the best thing he's done. The mere presence of that character in the film turns it into something different than anything that proceeded it. What I did not know until recently was that the role of Ruby Rhod was based on and originally offered to Prince.

 

I can imagine a little Luc Besson reading Metal Hurlant and jamming out to Prince and thinking "These two things would go really great together." He was correct. 

post #263 of 971

That piece reminded me about the showings of 5th Element going on tonight and Wednesday.

 

I may try to make it to one tonight.  I never got to see the movie in theaters.

post #264 of 971
That snuck up on me too, but I'll definitely be Fandangoing a ticket for Wednesday.
post #265 of 971
I never saw Ruby Rhod as Prince until you just said that.

And now I'm wondering how that never occurred to me before. Some people just HAAAATE Tucker in that movie but I gotta be honest...I find him pretty hilarious.

Seeing The Fifth Element was a memorable theatrical experience because I saw it on South Padre Island while nursing a broken nose. And then Ruby Rhod happened and it hurt like a bastard to laugh..
post #266 of 971
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I enjoy Tucker's performance much more now than I did then. The thing that bugs me now is, how come Leeloo can fight off a whole bunch of Mondoshawans but Zorg and his gun are too much?

Zorg's gun has homing bullets. They follow her into the vent.
post #267 of 971
I don't think the homing bullets functionality ever really gets used

at least the movie never visualizes it the way it vizualized it during Zorg's demo

I think he just manages to hit her when she's up in the vents and he shoots up toward them
post #268 of 971
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I don't think the homing bullets functionality ever really gets used

at least the movie never visualizes it the way it vizualized it during Zorg's demo

I think he just manages to hit her when she's up in the vents and he shoots up toward them
Yeah, I mean....you could attribute him hitting her to the bullet's homing capabilities but the scene does nothing to show that's what happened. The homing bullet's use in the movie feels like it begins and ends as just a gag during the demonstration of all the gun's functions..
post #269 of 971
A lot of us have unrealistic expectations of how we'd perform in a hypothetical barroom brawl, but how many of us think we can dodge automatic rifle fire? It's apples and oranges.
post #270 of 971

Either way, there's no sense that (a) he thinks she's dead or (b) she's that badly hurt.

post #271 of 971
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That piece reminded me about the showings of 5th Element going on tonight and Wednesday.

 

I may try to make it to one tonight.  I never got to see the movie in theaters.

 

I tried putting together a group to see it but scheduling it on Mother's Day was pretty dumb.

post #272 of 971

you could try for the Wednesday showings

 

but yeah, I was wondering about the Mother's Day thing too

 

maybe they figured... "moms love this movie, right?"

post #273 of 971

I didn't see The Fifth Element until it hit video, but I saw Father's Day the weekend both opened.

 

I haven't seen Element in almost 20 years. If it was made with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell instead of Besson and Bruno, on half the budget, it would be one of my favorite sci-fi movies ever.

post #274 of 971
Thread Starter 

Carpenter isn't nearly French enough to make something like The Fifth Element.

post #275 of 971

would it just end up as ghosts of mars or something? 

 

crossed with starman maybe...

post #276 of 971
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Carpenter isn't nearly French enough to make something like The Fifth Element.

 

It would be the urbania of Escape from New York meets the weird mysticism of Big Trouble in Little China.

 

Or Escape from Earth.

post #277 of 971
I read that Ghosts of Mars started out with the intention of being a Plissken movie..
post #278 of 971
Nah, he hit her with the homing bullets. Ya'll dumb.
post #279 of 971

he very well may have

 

but the film sure doesn't communicate it

post #280 of 971
cargo shorts
post #281 of 971

bud light lime

post #282 of 971
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post #283 of 971

 

if you recall his sales pitch for the weapon, he says

 

"ONE SHOT! (shoots target once)... and REPLAY, sends ev'ry followin' shot to the saaaaame location!"

 

With Leeloo, he doesn't successfully hit her, so what location would the shots home in on?  the same point he missed with the first shot?  He misses completely and continues to spray until he apparently hits her.  But we don't realize that she's actually been hit until much later, when the movie cuts to her crying in the vents.

 

bad communication by movie?

 

no... bad media literacy by bort

 

 

Zorg's ZF-1 demonstration reminds me of another instance of wasted tech setup; Bond's car in GOLDENEYE.  Established to have all sorts of tools... and Bond just uses it for a nice drive for a scene.

post #284 of 971
Listen Nooj

Hear me out.

They had to for the sake of the franchise.
post #285 of 971
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Listen Nooj

Hear me out.
 

post #286 of 971
Actually I haven't seen the movie in over a decade.

So at this point I'm just being stubborn.
post #287 of 971

oh I know it

 

Honestly, I haven't seen it in a long time either.  But I specifically recall thinking back when I saw it on VHS, "they really don't use that gun's capabilities after all that setup... just like in GOLDENEYE......  bad calibration... a bad cadence of payoffs... look, listen... catsup mixed with bud light lime... in cargo shorts..."

post #288 of 971

The film does nothing with the homing bullets.

 

Still great.

post #289 of 971
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I haven't seen Element in almost 20 years.

 

Fix that shit, pronto!

 

(I also didn't see it until it hit video but have watched many times since. My daughters quote it to me fairly often!)

post #290 of 971
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The film does nothing with the homing bullets.

Still great.

I will never

ever

give ground on this.
post #291 of 971

that's your choice

post #292 of 971
post #293 of 971

 I've always thought Tucker was funny in the Fifth Element. I get a kick out of him still doing his show while a wild shoot out goes on. The man is dedicated to his craft.

 

Oldman is also funny in this, but he is still a legit villain. I love his reaction to finding out the stones aren't in the box. 

post #294 of 971
That's funny that y'all bring up Goldeneye because I was just thinking how similar their scores are. Both Eric Serra so that's no mystery as to why..
post #295 of 971
fun to see 5th element in the theater!

love that Serra score!
post #296 of 971
So, I was going to put this in the show's thread but I thought it might be better in here.

I had a dim teenage memory of enjoying MST3K. Not a weekly fan, but there were some laughs to be had.

So when I heard the show was rebooting, I watched some of the curated episodes available in Netflix to prepare.

Nope.

It is no longer funny to me in any way. I expected them to savage the films with trenchant observations, but the bots just seem to ramble on in a stream of consciousness until something occasionally sticks.

I didn't expect something to have aged so very badly over time. Am I watching the wrong episodes?
post #297 of 971
Crow was the character whose humor got its hooks into me when Joel was still the host on Comedy Central, and my own interest tapered off once Crow lost his ability to shock. I believe the experience others are relating, that the aspects of the show that they loved are back, but what I originally got out of the show may have just been different. I didn't see the wrong episodes, I just enjoyed it for reasons that had an expiration date.
post #298 of 971

Rewatching the original JAWWWWNNNNN WICK for a podcast I'm guesting on later this week. I didn't get a chance to watch it again before Chapter 2. Michael Nyqvist is such a delightful ham in his first moments. He does something that I think is very rare in action movie villains: he's totally insecure and knows he's fucked the minute he gets the call from John Leguizamo. I forgot that he tells a story about Wick killing multiple men with a pencil too!

 

I hope he returns in Chapter 3 as a cyborg, or his twin brother, who launders money in the old country for the President of the United States of America.

 

Also,

 

THIS IS WICK

post #299 of 971

The Red Circle scene is one of the best action sequences of the decade. If it wasn't for Fury Road, I'd call it the action movie of the decade, but for now, it has to settle as the best American action film since Kill Bill.

post #300 of 971
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The Red Circle scene is one of the best action sequences of the decade. If it wasn't for Fury Road, I'd call it the action movie of the decade, but for now, it has to settle as the best American action film since Kill Bill.

 

This is all completely accurate.

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