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Bruce Hornsby?!?

 

Yes, he and the Noisemakers also wrote and performed an original song, "Riding the Wind (Theme from Birds of Prey)", for the picture. It's very evocative of Backdraft's "And The Show Goes On." 

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I prefer Set Me in Motion.
post #1103 of 1197
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I prefer Set Me in Motion.

 

"Spider Fingers" or "Gonna Be Some Changes Made" or GTFO, my friend. 

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Bruce Hornsby...

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Is there going to be a bracket vote for best Bruce Hornsby song?
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Is there going to be a bracket vote for best Bruce Hornsby song?

 

If not, there should be. 

post #1107 of 1197
Thread Starter 

+1 Every Little Kiss

-1 The Way it Is

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The Way It Is +

The Valley Road KO

 

That stupid fucking dance.

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+ The Way It Is 

- Set Me In Motion

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Well this was unexpected

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That soundtrack post, Boone, reminded me. One of my unposted things was that Bruce Wayne is the first Batman film since Batman & Robin to use non-orchestral music and the first with a preexisting song. Bruce and Dr. Isley take a limo back from a fundraiser, where he faces wits with The Penguin. He begins to play Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense, calling it his favorite album. As he cozies up to Dr. Isley, that album's version of "Psycho Killer" carries over to a montage intercutting Hugo Strange silently obsessing over his Wayne/Batman theory and Batman investigating the courthouse where Thorne gave Dent his acid bath.

 

It's noted by some to be an American Psycho homage, due to Wayne's eccentric personality and that Patrick Bateman's favorite band was Talking Heads in the book. Some people nitpick this as a joke at Christian Bale, but it's widely seen as a cool scene.

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That soundtrack post, Boone, reminded me. One of my unposted things was that Bruce Wayne is the first Batman film since Batman & Robin to use non-orchestral music and the first with a preexisting song. Bruce and Dr. Isley take a limo back from a fundraiser, where he faces wits with The Penguin. He begins to play Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense, calling it his favorite album. As he cozies up to Dr. Isley, that album's version of "Psycho Killer" carries over to a montage intercutting Hugo Strange silently obsessing over his Wayne/Batman theory and Batman investigating the courthouse where Thorne gave Dent his acid bath.

 

It's noted by some to be an American Psycho homage, due to Wayne's eccentric personality and that Patrick Bateman's favorite band was Talking Heads in the book. Some people nitpick this as a joke at Christian Bale, but it's widely seen as a cool scene.

 

This is excellent. (I'm currently putting the finishing touches on the Birds of Prey non-score soundtrack.)

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In a cruel twist of fate, the best boy, named Robin, died on the set of my movie.

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I was tempted...very tempted...to have my actor playing Batman get cancer after S1, have S2 be a 'prequel' season while the actor recovered, have the recovery fail and have the show-runners be forced to recast Batman for seasons 3 and 4.

 

That felt wrong, though.  How that played out in real life was too tragic to make light of in a draft.  Also, I didn't want to wish death on whoever I cast as Batman in S1.

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David Lynch's Arkham Asylum will feature Roy Orbison's It's Over and Running Scared, a new single by Julee Cruise, and Denis Lavant crooning Thank Heaven for Little Girls.
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A word on the future of Bruce Wayne:

 

It becomes the first R-rated film to cross $1 billion worldwide. It receives a surprise nomination for Best Picture, as well as Best Director for Denis Villeneuve. Christoph Waltz and Rosario Dawson are nominated for Best Supporting Actor and Actress, respectively. It nets three Oscars - Best Sound, Best Sound Editing, and Roger Deakins' first statue for Best Cinematography. (It's also nominated for Best Film Editing.) The successful spinoff of Rosario Dawson's Catwoman film The Cat proves fruitful.

 

The sequel, Shadow of the Bat, arrives in October 2020, from a screenplay Derek Kolstad had written before the release of Bruce Wayne. Andrea Berloff (The Cat) also contributed to the script. Denis Villeneuve returns to direct. From the first film, Jake Gyllenhaal, Jeff Bridges, Rosario Dawson, Christina Hendricks, Matthew Rhys, Christian Slater, Courtney B. Vance, and Brian Cox return. In the sequel, The Riddler (Slater) instigates rumors of Batman's quick resurface, leading Batman on a dash to stop a city-wide crime spree. Things are complicated when Poison Ivy (Hendricks) rises and uses her nature-manipulating powers in tandem with the Riddler. Batman turns to Harvey Dent, who is undergoing a risky procedure to restore his face, for help. Needless to say, that doesn't work out, and the repercussions of Bruce Wayne lead to chaos that also involves Mr. Freeze (Michael Nyqvist) and Clayface (Ron Perlman). Martin Short appears in the opening as Alice in Wonderland obsessed criminal Jervis Tetch, a.k.a. the Mad Hatter. Kolstad cites Die Hard and Escape from New York as influences on the script, while Villeneuve points to The Battle of Algiers as a reference point for the film's sense of unrest. Hendricks revealed that her performance was heavily influenced by Kathleen Turner's breakout turn in Body Heat. The film's "kitchen sink" approach doesn't destroy the film, but it leads to it being called the Temple of Doom to the original's Raiders.

 

In the final film, Knightfall (2023), Two-Face assumes power of Gotham's underworld and comes in contact with a fringe group known as the League of Assassins, led by Ra's al Ghul (Donnie Yen) and his daughter, Talia (Annet Mahendru), to eliminate Batman once and for all. Meanwhile, French billionaire Jean-Paul Valley (Jean Dujardin) begins a career as a perverted copycat of Batman known as Azrael. In need of help, Bruce Wayne recruits an impressive League of Assassins trainee, Tim Drake (Corey Hawkins), as his sidekick, Robin. This receives better reviews than Shadow of the Bat. The more concise plot is praised, and Kolstad cites 1986's Sylvester Stallone film Cobra as influencing the reinvented League of Assassins.

 

On both sequels, Warner and DC implored Villeneuve and Kolstad to fold The Joker into the plot, and further wanted Bane in Knightfall and to have Deathstroke replace Azrael. On the latter film, Villeneuve threatened to quit due to their insistence on the Joker and Bane.

 

That's all I got.

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Oh shit Nina Sergeevia as Talia is genius. 

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I forgot to mention earlier, but my director, Gareth Evans, wanted to cast Yayan Ruhian as a new Batman villain called Mad Dog... who would have been an homage to both his character from The Raid, as well as the Batman villain Martin Mad Dog Hawkins.  Unfortunately, Ruhian was already cast in Moltisanti's competing Batman production, Bled Dry*, a few days earlier.  This led to a falling out between Evans and Ruhian, and they never worked together again.  Thanks a lot, Molt.  Way to screw that up.

 

* Tanked at the box office

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I forgot to mention earlier, but my director, Gareth Evans, wanted to cast Yayan Ruhian as a new Batman villain called Mad Dog... who would have been an homage to both his character from The Raid, as well as the Batman villain Martin Mad Dog Hawkins.  Unfortunately, Ruhian was already cast in Moltisanti's competing Batman production, Bled Dry*, a few days earlier.  This led to a falling out between Evans and Ruhian, and they never worked together again.  Thanks a lot, Molt.  Way to screw that up.

* Tanked at the box office

Wanting another shot at the Bat franchise, Ruhiam accepted the chance to choreograph the action sequences in Batman Reborn (Dent).
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Fake news.

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Thread Starter 

Wearing hats emblazoned with MAKE BATMAN GREAT AGAIN, cheers erupted at the set of the new Starz series BATMAN: KNIGHTFALL, which started production today in Detroit, Michigan.

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Wearing hats emblazoned with MAKE BATMAN GREAT AGAIN, cheers erupted at the set of the new Starz series BATMAN: KNIGHTFALL, which started production today in Detroit, Michigan.

 

What were the color of the hats? Were they...

 

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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

I forgot to mention earlier, but my director, Gareth Evans, wanted to cast Yayan Ruhian as a new Batman villain called Mad Dog... who would have been an homage to both his character from The Raid, as well as the Batman villain Martin Mad Dog Hawkins.  Unfortunately, Ruhian was already cast in Moltisanti's competing Batman production, Bled Dry*, a few days earlier.  This led to a falling out between Evans and Ruhian, and they never worked together again.  Thanks a lot, Molt.  Way to screw that up.

 

* Tanked at the box office

 

Joke is on you. Evans is also directing BLED DRY. He's a busy man.

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And in 2022, Rosario Dawson returned as Catwoman in Sirens, a variation of the Gotham City Sirens title that finds Catwoman investigating the League of Assassins' revival of the dead Pamela Isley. She's initially up against Poison Ivy, but they end up wanting to score a bounty on treacherous LoA loose cannons Deadshot and Deathstroke. Meanwhile, Commissioner Gordon assigns his daughter, rookie Barbara Gordon (some new unknown) to find Catwoman and Ivy with Renee Montoya. Dissatisfied with police work, she becomes Batgirl and ends up falling for the benevolence of Catwoman and Ivy.

 

So, to break down, Warner Bros.' successful Bat-verse goes like this:

 

Bruce Wayne (2018) Directed by Denis Villeneuve

The Cat (2020) Directed by Melanie Laurent

Shadow of the Bat (2021) Directed by Denis Villeneuve

Sirens (2022) Directed by Niki Caro

Knightfall (2023) Directed by Denis Villeneuve

Untitled Catwoman 3 (2025) Director TBA

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... it does look like you guys are having fun... and I hate to break it all up... but... are we doing some kind of conclusion to this draft? :)

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post #1127 of 1197
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Wanting another shot at the Bat franchise, Ruhiam accepted the chance to choreograph the action sequences in Batman Reborn (Dent).


I mean, when you get offered the chance to play an army of ninja man-bats, you take it!

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Joke is on you. Evans is also directing BLED DRY. He's a busy man.

 

But our movies filmed at the same time!  Shit, is there a mirror universe?  I think we're gonna need Hunter to sort all this out.  I'll just read the press releases.

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Crisis on Infinite Casting Drafts

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But our movies filmed at the same time!  Shit, is there a mirror universe?  I think we're gonna need Hunter to sort all this out.  I'll just read the press releases.

 

Are you sure you didn't hire Gareth Edwards? Wait, am I sure I didn't hire Gareth Edwards? Someone's receptionist is getting canned.

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I added some more detail in the list thread to give at least a general idea of what my movie is.  I'm finding myself wishing that I'd committed to a stronger central concept from the beginning, but there are just so many different directions you can go with Batman, as everyone participating in this draft has demonstrated.

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Ballot thread will be up by tomorrow.  I'm still deciding, but I think I'm gonna make it even more basic.  Brackets are about judging the cast, but people wanted those with detailed concepts to be given special consideration  So I'll probably just have two categories.  You can vote for your top three in each.  The drafts with the most votes in each category will win.

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Turing never drafted on the last day, so I went ahead and updated the Chosen through the first 238 slots. 

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Sorry if it was mentioned and I missed it but how long do we have to vote?

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Have a few days, or until everyone who participated in the draft has voted (whichever comes first.)  And I thought it went without saying you can't vote for your own draft.   That seems pretty standard for this sort of thing, right?

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Have a few days, or until everyone who participated in the draft has voted (whichever comes first.)  And I thought it went without saying you can't vote for your own draft.   That seems pretty standard for this sort of thing, right?

 

If I could vote for myself in the brackets, I can sure as hell vote for myself here, especially if I'm proud of my draft and honestly think it's one of the best.

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And here I thought Judas' greatest sin was betrayal, not vanity.
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post

 

If I could vote for myself in the brackets, I can sure as hell vote for myself here, especially if I'm proud of my draft and honestly think it's one of the best.

 

You can vote for yourself in the brackets because it's generally accepted that the other person votes for their draft too, and it basically cancels itself out.

 

Put it another way- if you only got one vote on the ballot, instead of three, it would go without saying you can't vote for your own because then everyone could just make it a 24 way tie.  (Which would be fine by me, by the way, but sort of defeats the purpose of this part of the game.)

 

The reason I made it a ballot of three, instead of one, is because I wanted more drafts represented in the voting, and more nuanced scoring.  There was the potential in a single vote ballot for the winning draft to get, like, three votes total.

 

Anyway... I dunno.  I don't really care at this point, to be honest.  Everyone's just sort of done their own thing.  It made for some fun drafts. but it is a little unruly from a draft runner perspective.  I guess Batman brought out the best and worst tendencies in geeks.  As it should be.  

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I had a ton of fun, but I think Richard is ultimately right in that pre-set roles/BTS teams before the draft starts is the way to go. 

 

If we do another one of these, though, I'd definitely say let's do them with an aim towards ballots near the end, not brackets. Brackets are fun for the decade and character drafts, but the creativity and work that goes into these deserves a bit more, in my humble. 

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These really aren't apples to apples comparisons, so yeah...more structure would have been beneficial to making it a competition.  that said, I think everyone had fun doing their own thing and nobody really NEEDS to win this thing.

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An interesting exercise might be some sort of collaborative casting/filmmaking thread.  Sort of a version of what we did with the two Coldstone RPG threads way back.  Pick a genre/franchise/theme, have people sign up, randomly assign an order, and the first person can do whatever they want.  Cast a lead, specify a setting, sketch out a scene, hire behind-the-scenes talent, whatever.  Then the next person goes, and the only rule is they can't undo or gainsay what the person before them has done.  Like I said, a collaboration rather than a competition.  Nothing to vote on, but it'd be interesting to see what the disparate sensibilities bouncing off each other would come up with.

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Man, Coldstone (and also Lumiere) was so great. 

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I should have said something earlier, and no bad intent with this, but I think we should have provisions with voting for ourselves.

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These really aren't apples to apples comparisons, so yeah...more structure would have been beneficial to making it a competition.  that said, I think everyone had fun doing their own thing and nobody really NEEDS to win this thing.

 

Agreed. I've always felt that when it comes to these drafts the winner is more of an afterthought. Except for the one I won. Then it was vital.

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Agreed. I've always felt that when it comes to these drafts the winner is more of an afterthought. Except for the one I won. Then it was vital.

 

Lord knows I revel in my victory in the YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN draft, and I carry my prize for winning it with me wherever I go.

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Lord knows I revel in my victory in the YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN draft, and I carry my prize for winning it with me wherever I go.

 

It might be instructive if you wrote a book about how you did it.

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Agreed. I've always felt that when it comes to these drafts the winner is more of an afterthought. Except for the one I won. Then it was vital.

 

You don't win enough for a guy from World Championsville.

 

I got two wins under my belt. That matters too. But I got less competitive on this one. It was too fun.

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I'm sure no one remembers who won which, but I sure as fuck remember which one I won. It was Raiders of the Lost Ark. I had Aaron Eckhart as Indy, and I still won, that's how good it was.

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My vote goes to Putney Swope (that would be a killer screen name, by the way).

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I won A Fish Called Wanda because in the tiebreaker, it was said that my Americans had a better dynamic. I want to think it was getting Paul Rudd the second I went that helped out.

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