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Here for this. 

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Watched this last night. Very impressed with the gorgeous cinematography. The aesthetic choices are very provocative, with washed-out whites and greys contrasted against Katherine's bright dresses. And I really love Katherine's proactive nature and how this never devolves into another period piece about women crying. 

 

There's a beautiful stillness to the movie, and several frames have a delicious symmetry to them. 

 

I did struggle with the early depiction of Sebastian. He's introduced basically torturing Anna, with the indication that whatever was going on in that barn could have led to rape. And then he basically forces himself on Katherine, except it's okay because she's into it. And even after that point he comes across as threatening to Anna in the scene where she's picking mushrooms. But at about the halfway point he's just a nice guy and easily manipulated by Katherine, which is more about his seeming lack of intelligence, or at least education and ambition.

 

The title is intriguing. I know it's based on a book that is riffing on the play Macbeth, but it's never about Sebastian being pushed into greatness by Katherine. She's both Lady Macbeth and Macbeth, doing all the work and making all the morally ambiguous choices, and he just bumbles along until he's overwhelmed with guilt. 

 

Also, has one of the most harrowing scenes I've ever seen involving a child.

 

Not a favorite this year, but worth a watch.

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Also, has one of the most harrowing scenes I've ever seen involving a child.

 

Dude.  That was hard to watch.

post #4 of 11

It just goes on and on.

 

I did enjoy the Coen brothers-esque one evil deed begats another and another in a series of escalations. 

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I saw this a few weeks ago, and it left me cold.  I appreciated the visual look, and Florence Pugh is terrific as the increasingly morally bankrupt lead, but I just couldn't get invested, particularly because I could sense very early on the familiar trajectory the story was going to take.

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I didn't expect the arrival of Teddy, Katherine's husband's illegitimate son, so that was a nice second-act redirect. I also had to keep reminding myself that this is 19th century England and not the United States, so the characters like Anna and Teddy (and Teddy's grandmother) aren't slaves or former slaves. Well, maybe the grandma since slavery was abolished in 1833 in England.

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I didn't expect the arrival of Teddy, Katherine's husband's illegitimate son, so that was a nice second-act redirect. I also had to keep reminding myself that this is 19th century England and not the United States, so the characters like Anna and Teddy (and Teddy's grandmother) aren't slaves or former slaves. Well, maybe the grandma since slavery was abolished in 1833 in England.


I didn't expect their arrival either, but as soon as they did appear...

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... I knew at least one of them was going to end up in the ground.

 

The England setting does give the racial element a unique flavor, though, even as it's not even explicitly commented on.  It's something I genuinely was not anticipating.

 

I think, ultimately, I just wanted the movie to go further.  Push things even a little bit more, perhaps into the realm of ultra-dark comedy. 

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Finally started watching this! Good so far! 

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Thoughts so far:

 

Very gorgeous to look at.

 

Points for casting Florence Pugh, who actually looks like she could have lived in that time period.

 

The scene where she has to face the wall...nope.

post #11 of 11

The bedroom dynamic with her husband is recontextualized by a later revelation.

 

But no matter what it's still pretty weird.

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