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sounds about right...

On one hand, Chaw is really smart. On the other hand, his writing is fucking excruciating.

 

Hey, does anybody else remember that monologue in Bridge of Spies where Tom Hanks essentially sums up his character and the importance of what he believes and the essential themes of the movie? I guess it was "on the nose," but it was also brilliant.

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This piece does nothing to dissuade me from my suspicion that this is a script that only got made because of its zeitgeisty qualities and Spielberg's desire to do something with explicitly political connotations.  But whatever, I've made my peace with that.

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This piece does nothing to dissuade me from my suspicion that this is a script that only got made because of its zeitgeisty qualities and Spielberg's desire to do something with explicitly political connotations.  But whatever, I've made my peace with that.

 

I'm still trying to figure out why this is a bad thing.  I feel like if any other director but Spielberg was doing this, we'd be praising them for tackling such a relevant issue.  Has a director never before made a political film relevant to their times?

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I'm still trying to figure out why this is a bad thing.  I feel like if any other director but Spielberg was doing this, we'd be praising them for tackling such a relevant issue.  Has a director never before made a political film relevant to their times?


I'm not saying it's a bad thing (and I wouldn't even use the word "bad") for anyone other than myself.  I tend not to like movies that I feel are primarily concerned with scoring political points, so if Spielberg wasn't involved, I likely wouldn't be interested in THE POST at all.  I'm just not really the audience for this particular story, framed the way it seems to be.

 

But again, mandatory disclaimer: I haven't seen the movie!  What people who have seen it have said about the direction and the craft gives me hope that I'll at least admire the film on those levels.  I go into any movie (and certainly any movie from Steven Spielberg) hoping it will be great.  THE POST is no different. 

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Streep and Spielberg talking about how we don't trust each other and that the political sides have been demonized tells me he's at least approaching the material with a level head, though. They even talk about who to trust as far as media is concerned. That could be an interesting angle to see in this film.

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If Spielberg was capable of finding a multitudinous array of shades of gray in Amon Goeth, I'm pretty sure that though he represents "the opposition" in the film's framework, Robert McNamara, however infamous he is in U.S. foreign policy history, shouldn't have too much to worry about.

 

Most Spielberg films don't really have a villain in the classical sense, so much as an idea that has to be defeated or bested, or, from the positive side of the equation, validated or vindicated. From The Sugarland Express to Catch Me If You Can to Munich to Bridge of Spies who's good and who's bad is left up to each viewer. Even in most of his fantastical efforts, while there are avatars for wickedness like Nazis or Thugees or Soviets or Captain Hook or bullying, child-devouring giants, even they are gifted with a few more dimensions than a less humanistic filmmaker would afford them.

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What extra dimensions do the Nazis in the Indiana Jones movies have? Or the Martians in WotW?

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The basement scene in WotW at least shows the Martians as having some curiosity about the planet they're conquering, and you can infer a little bit of their inter-personal dynamics from it too.

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What extra dimensions do the Nazis in the Indiana Jones movies have? Or the Martians in WotW?

I'm not really saying that the Nazis/Thuggees/Russian Soviets had extra dimensions. Spielberg and Lucas made those films to be like Republic Pictures serials so the villains are fairly one-note, but at the very least in the case of the Nazis and Soviets, there's some sort of drive for greater knowledge, however horrible their intentions were with that knowledge. Of course the more notably almost-three-dimensional villain of Indy lore is Belloq. But at the same time the U.S. government men who weave in and out of the franchise are hardly depicted as saints, and Jones is in the first and (for now) final installments repeatedly frustrated by them and their choices. There's even the business in Crystal Skull about the U.S. government having people seeing communists in their soup and the ostensible equivalence between the FBI and KGB in how Jones wearily assesses who the men are who are tailing him at the diner.  

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