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post #151 of 534

I still haven't seen Rogue Nation.

 

Where's my thread? 

post #152 of 534
GP was one of my favorite films of its year. So I don't disagree, Fraid!
post #153 of 534
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The ones I watch the most are De Palma's and GP. RN is fun, but the momentum dwindles a bit around the midpoint.

 

RN's second half is decidedly less energetic than its first. The opera sequence is definitely the film's highlight. Oddly, I find the Middle East data heist kinda boring but after that it picks up again.

 

GN left almost no impression on me at all. Never had any desire to revisit it.

post #154 of 534
I also watched TMNT 2. What is the deal with these movies starting with 15 production company logos? Alibaba films? China Movie Channel? Dafuq?

On the subject of Turtles, while I'm at it....HOLY FUCK at those FX. The end action sequence came out of nowhere and just blew my mind. I mean....it was a fun movie overall...but I've never seen a movie that was so jarringly different in scale from it's first 2/3rds and the climax..
post #155 of 534
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I still haven't seen Rogue Nation.

 

Where's my thread? 


​I think this is now the proxy [INSERT NAME VIEWER] hasn't seen [INSERT NAME FILM] thread for all of us. Among other things, it would prevent clogging up the forums with a multitude of variations of names paired with films just for starters ...

post #156 of 534
That's a good thing, right?
post #157 of 534

Hey, this thread is about MY shameful viewing habits, not everyone else's!

post #158 of 534
Thread Starter 

Yeah, there's already a thread about "So what monumentally classic...".

 

This was specifically about mocking MichaelM.

post #159 of 534
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Yeah, there's already a thread about "So what monumentally classic...".

 

This was specifically about mocking MichaelM.

 

To be fair, that other thread is more about what haven't you watched that you're now watching.

 

This one's about stuff you haven't seen and may not ever watch.

post #160 of 534
Thread Starter 

blergh

post #161 of 534

I didn't see Casablanca until I was in my mid-30s. Didn't see Singing in the Rain until I was 43.

 

Plenty of ammo left for mockery, B2.

post #162 of 534
Casablanca? A little overrated, if you ask me. Fantastically-written, well-directed, but I don't care for Bergman in it.

I prefer To Have and Have Not. There's palpable heat between Bogie and Bacall.
post #163 of 534
I actively dislike Singin in the Rain but that's because I dislike that genre intensely.

But I do like Casablanca THAT much. It's the real deal. But it's not my favorite Bogie movie..
post #164 of 534
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Casablanca? A little overrated, if you ask me. Fantastically-written, well-directed, but I don't care for Bergman in it.

I prefer To Have and Have Not. There's palpable heat between Bogie and Bacall.

Well, yeah. Because there was actual heat there, whereas Bergman didn't even know which character she was supposed to be in love with.

But really, without Bacall and the real life relationship it made, we'd be remembering "To Have and Have Not" the way we remember "Across the Pacific"-- which is to say not much at all except as a transparent attempt to replicate "Casablanca"'s greatness.
post #165 of 534
Perhaps. But To Have and Have Not is still a tremendously well-made picture. Great writing and great direction.
post #166 of 534

If anything, I think Casablanca's underrated. It amazes me every time I watch it. It's both immediately of its time and effortlessly accessible to us now. 

 

And while the flashback scenes certainly don't demonstrate heat between Bogie and Bergman (that he keeps calling her "kid" doesn't help), the movie's not about heat. It's about loss, pain, and what we do with them. And I think the film's extremely successful in making us believe Rick (and Ilsa) are in pain over their choices and lives.

 

To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 

 

Fraid, as a whole, I cannot stand musicals, but SITR is one of the handful of exceptions for me. The title song sequence is worth the watch alone, but the movie is an overall love letter/not so gentle jab at the realities of the business.

post #167 of 534
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To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 
You and I are not quite in-sync, as we both know, but I strongly recommend watching all of the Bogie/Bacall flicks. They're all terrific.

Watch 'em in mid-to-late summer.
post #168 of 534
Not liking musicals doesn't mean I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones and from what I've seen of SITR, it certainly is in the upper echelon. It oozes golden age Hollywood..
post #169 of 534
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Perhaps. But To Have and Have Not is still a tremendously well-made picture. Great writing and great direction.

No doubt. I may be in the running for world's biggest Howard Hawks fan, and I love the movie. I just think "Casablanca" has so much more going on. It deserves its pedestal.

ETA:
To piggyback on Sands' recommendation Michael -- if you miss a Bogie / Bacall picture, make it "Dark Passage".

"Key Largo" is a must, though.
post #170 of 534
I thought "Casablanca" was pretty good. Bogart is like the first cinematic cuck.
post #171 of 534

....and now it's ruined.

post #172 of 534
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To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 
You and I are not quite in-sync, as we both know, but I strongly recommend watching all of the Bogie/Bacall flicks. They're all terrific.

Watch 'em in mid-to-late summer.

 

Key Largo's also on the list. How many did they do together?

post #173 of 534
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I just think "Casablanca" has so much more going on.
As far as the script goes, yes. And as a movie, it has more striking images. But for all of its tremendous accomplishment, it just doesn't give me the feels. I'm not fascinated by it.

To Have and Have Not leaves me spellbound. I could spend an eternity watching Bacall in that movie.
post #174 of 534
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Key Largo's also on the list. How many did they do together?
Four.

Dark Passage and The Big Sleep being the others.

Slim's wrong about Dark Passage. It's wonkier than the others, but you still gotta watch it for the perfect ending.
post #175 of 534
Ugh. The POV beginning, though. I despise that gimmick. Hated it in that one Philip Marlowe adaptation too, the title of which I can't remember.
post #176 of 534
Lady in the Lake was the Marlowe POV one, right?
post #177 of 534
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Ugh. The POV beginning, though. I despise that gimmick.
I like it. It's something different.
post #178 of 534
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But for all of its tremendous accomplishment, it just doesn't give me the feels. I'm not fascinated by it.

 

BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD

post #179 of 534
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BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD
Says the guy who shrugged at Citizen Kane.

Honestly, it's because I find Bergman a generally off-putting presence.
post #180 of 534

These guys are so obsessed with leaks they need to be wearing diapers.

post #181 of 534
I believe Brad's right.

Now that it's come up, I think I prefer "The Big Sleep" of the Hawks pictures, if only for the horse racing discussion.

("To Have and Have Not", BTW, was the first Xmas gift my wife bought me, on VHS, because for some reason I didn't already have it. Just remembered that.)
post #182 of 534
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Lady in the Lake was the Marlowe POV one, right?

Yes, Brad, you're correct. Your Master's degree was worth every penny.
post #183 of 534
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BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD
Says the guy who shrugged at Citizen Kane.

 

CK isn't a movie about deep emotion. It's deliberately cold. And the emotions it elicits are almost consistently unpleasant.

 

Casablanca speaks to anyone who's lost a great love, had to make a sacrificial choice with great personal impact, and more.

post #184 of 534
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CK isn't a movie about deep emotion. It's deliberately cold. And the emotions it elicits are almost consistently unpleasant.
I've always found it very moving.

So shut it.
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post #186 of 534
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Casablanca speaks to anyone who's lost a great love, had to make a sacrificial choice with great personal impact, and more.
But who cares when that love is a love for Bergman? Who could be possibly get broken up about that overly-chaste wet blanket?
post #187 of 534

Bergman is beautiful and perfect and I will not countenance this slander. Good day to you, sir. I SAY GOOD DAY!

post #188 of 534
Your bad taste in cinema is matched by your bad taste in women!

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post #189 of 534
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But who cares when that love is a love for Bergman? Who could be possibly get broken up about that overly-chaste wet blanket?

 


You sir, are out of your mind.

 

post #190 of 534

You're insane, Sands!

 

post #191 of 534
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Your bad taste in cinema is matched by your bad taste in women!

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Oh shit, shots fired!
post #192 of 534

No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.

 

post #193 of 534
Ugh. Bergman looks like one of those cherubic girls you see in Norman Rockwell paintings.

The only movie where Bergman is appealing is Notorious, where she gets to shed that off-puttingly chaste, demure aura and get a little rowdy.

If Casablanca gave us that Bergman, I'd love it.
post #194 of 534
"Ugh" is a little strong, no?
post #195 of 534
I love to the hilt and I hate to the hilt!

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post #196 of 534
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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.



Ooh, she looks like a gal I used to date in this pic, frown and everything.
post #197 of 534
This thread is everything that's right with CHUD and everything that's wrong with CHUD at exactly the same fuckimg time.
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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.

 

 

Hate sex. All night long. 

post #199 of 534
Carno's post being one of the wrong things.
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Carno's post being one of the wrong things.
I was thinking he just misspelt 'have.'
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