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That's a good thing, right?
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Hey, this thread is about MY shameful viewing habits, not everyone else's!

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Thread Starter 

Yeah, there's already a thread about "So what monumentally classic...".

 

This was specifically about mocking MichaelM.

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Yeah, there's already a thread about "So what monumentally classic...".

 

This was specifically about mocking MichaelM.

 

To be fair, that other thread is more about what haven't you watched that you're now watching.

 

This one's about stuff you haven't seen and may not ever watch.

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Thread Starter 

blergh

post #156 of 868

I didn't see Casablanca until I was in my mid-30s. Didn't see Singing in the Rain until I was 43.

 

Plenty of ammo left for mockery, B2.

post #157 of 868
Casablanca? A little overrated, if you ask me. Fantastically-written, well-directed, but I don't care for Bergman in it.

I prefer To Have and Have Not. There's palpable heat between Bogie and Bacall.
post #158 of 868
I actively dislike Singin in the Rain but that's because I dislike that genre intensely.

But I do like Casablanca THAT much. It's the real deal. But it's not my favorite Bogie movie..
post #159 of 868
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Casablanca? A little overrated, if you ask me. Fantastically-written, well-directed, but I don't care for Bergman in it.

I prefer To Have and Have Not. There's palpable heat between Bogie and Bacall.

Well, yeah. Because there was actual heat there, whereas Bergman didn't even know which character she was supposed to be in love with.

But really, without Bacall and the real life relationship it made, we'd be remembering "To Have and Have Not" the way we remember "Across the Pacific"-- which is to say not much at all except as a transparent attempt to replicate "Casablanca"'s greatness.
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Perhaps. But To Have and Have Not is still a tremendously well-made picture. Great writing and great direction.
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If anything, I think Casablanca's underrated. It amazes me every time I watch it. It's both immediately of its time and effortlessly accessible to us now. 

 

And while the flashback scenes certainly don't demonstrate heat between Bogie and Bergman (that he keeps calling her "kid" doesn't help), the movie's not about heat. It's about loss, pain, and what we do with them. And I think the film's extremely successful in making us believe Rick (and Ilsa) are in pain over their choices and lives.

 

To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 

 

Fraid, as a whole, I cannot stand musicals, but SITR is one of the handful of exceptions for me. The title song sequence is worth the watch alone, but the movie is an overall love letter/not so gentle jab at the realities of the business.

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To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 
You and I are not quite in-sync, as we both know, but I strongly recommend watching all of the Bogie/Bacall flicks. They're all terrific.

Watch 'em in mid-to-late summer.
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Not liking musicals doesn't mean I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones and from what I've seen of SITR, it certainly is in the upper echelon. It oozes golden age Hollywood..
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Perhaps. But To Have and Have Not is still a tremendously well-made picture. Great writing and great direction.

No doubt. I may be in the running for world's biggest Howard Hawks fan, and I love the movie. I just think "Casablanca" has so much more going on. It deserves its pedestal.

ETA:
To piggyback on Sands' recommendation Michael -- if you miss a Bogie / Bacall picture, make it "Dark Passage".

"Key Largo" is a must, though.
post #165 of 868
I thought "Casablanca" was pretty good. Bogart is like the first cinematic cuck.
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....and now it's ruined.

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To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday." 
You and I are not quite in-sync, as we both know, but I strongly recommend watching all of the Bogie/Bacall flicks. They're all terrific.

Watch 'em in mid-to-late summer.

 

Key Largo's also on the list. How many did they do together?

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I just think "Casablanca" has so much more going on.
As far as the script goes, yes. And as a movie, it has more striking images. But for all of its tremendous accomplishment, it just doesn't give me the feels. I'm not fascinated by it.

To Have and Have Not leaves me spellbound. I could spend an eternity watching Bacall in that movie.
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Key Largo's also on the list. How many did they do together?
Four.

Dark Passage and The Big Sleep being the others.

Slim's wrong about Dark Passage. It's wonkier than the others, but you still gotta watch it for the perfect ending.
post #170 of 868
Ugh. The POV beginning, though. I despise that gimmick. Hated it in that one Philip Marlowe adaptation too, the title of which I can't remember.
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Lady in the Lake was the Marlowe POV one, right?
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Ugh. The POV beginning, though. I despise that gimmick.
I like it. It's something different.
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But for all of its tremendous accomplishment, it just doesn't give me the feels. I'm not fascinated by it.

 

BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD

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BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD
Says the guy who shrugged at Citizen Kane.

Honestly, it's because I find Bergman a generally off-putting presence.
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These guys are so obsessed with leaks they need to be wearing diapers.

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I believe Brad's right.

Now that it's come up, I think I prefer "The Big Sleep" of the Hawks pictures, if only for the horse racing discussion.

("To Have and Have Not", BTW, was the first Xmas gift my wife bought me, on VHS, because for some reason I didn't already have it. Just remembered that.)
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Lady in the Lake was the Marlowe POV one, right?

Yes, Brad, you're correct. Your Master's degree was worth every penny.
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BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS FLAT AND DEAD
Says the guy who shrugged at Citizen Kane.

 

CK isn't a movie about deep emotion. It's deliberately cold. And the emotions it elicits are almost consistently unpleasant.

 

Casablanca speaks to anyone who's lost a great love, had to make a sacrificial choice with great personal impact, and more.

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CK isn't a movie about deep emotion. It's deliberately cold. And the emotions it elicits are almost consistently unpleasant.
I've always found it very moving.

So shut it.
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Casablanca speaks to anyone who's lost a great love, had to make a sacrificial choice with great personal impact, and more.
But who cares when that love is a love for Bergman? Who could be possibly get broken up about that overly-chaste wet blanket?
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Bergman is beautiful and perfect and I will not countenance this slander. Good day to you, sir. I SAY GOOD DAY!

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Your bad taste in cinema is matched by your bad taste in women!

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But who cares when that love is a love for Bergman? Who could be possibly get broken up about that overly-chaste wet blanket?

 


You sir, are out of your mind.

 

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You're insane, Sands!

 

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Your bad taste in cinema is matched by your bad taste in women!

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Oh shit, shots fired!
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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.

 

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Ugh. Bergman looks like one of those cherubic girls you see in Norman Rockwell paintings.

The only movie where Bergman is appealing is Notorious, where she gets to shed that off-puttingly chaste, demure aura and get a little rowdy.

If Casablanca gave us that Bergman, I'd love it.
post #189 of 868
"Ugh" is a little strong, no?
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I love to the hilt and I hate to the hilt!

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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.



Ooh, she looks like a gal I used to date in this pic, frown and everything.
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This thread is everything that's right with CHUD and everything that's wrong with CHUD at exactly the same fuckimg time.
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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.

 

 

Hate sex. All night long. 

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Carno's post being one of the wrong things.
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Carno's post being one of the wrong things.
I was thinking he just misspelt 'have.'
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No mistake: Bacall was incredibly hot. I'm not saying she wasn't.



"Brad, I feel like we'll wake up some day and realize we've been together for 50 years."

*dumps me two months later*
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Michael triggered poor Brad
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I thought I was over the pain, but no!

Okay, now I'm over it.
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Carno's post being one of the wrong things.

 

You don't think you'd get that with her scowl?

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Resting Bergface!
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