MichaelM's Tediously Literal, Not Eccentric At All But Definitely Comfortable Thread - Page 4
To be fair, that other thread is more about what haven't you watched that you're now watching.
This one's about stuff you haven't seen and may not ever watch.
Well, yeah. Because there was actual heat there, whereas Bergman didn't even know which character she was supposed to be in love with.
But really, without Bacall and the real life relationship it made, we'd be remembering "To Have and Have Not" the way we remember "Across the Pacific"-- which is to say not much at all except as a transparent attempt to replicate "Casablanca"'s greatness.
If anything, I think Casablanca's underrated. It amazes me every time I watch it. It's both immediately of its time and effortlessly accessible to us now.
And while the flashback scenes certainly don't demonstrate heat between Bogie and Bergman (that he keeps calling her "kid" doesn't help), the movie's not about heat. It's about loss, pain, and what we do with them. And I think the film's extremely successful in making us believe Rick (and Ilsa) are in pain over their choices and lives.
To Have and Have Not's on my list of "watch someday."
Fraid, as a whole, I cannot stand musicals, but SITR is one of the handful of exceptions for me. The title song sequence is worth the watch alone, but the movie is an overall love letter/not so gentle jab at the realities of the business.
Watch 'em in mid-to-late summer.
No doubt. I may be in the running for world's biggest Howard Hawks fan, and I love the movie. I just think "Casablanca" has so much more going on. It deserves its pedestal.
To piggyback on Sands' recommendation Michael -- if you miss a Bogie / Bacall picture, make it "Dark Passage".
"Key Largo" is a must, though.
Key Largo's also on the list. How many did they do together?
To Have and Have Not leaves me spellbound. I could spend an eternity watching Bacall in that movie.
Dark Passage and The Big Sleep being the others.
Slim's wrong about Dark Passage. It's wonkier than the others, but you still gotta watch it for the perfect ending.
Now that it's come up, I think I prefer "The Big Sleep" of the Hawks pictures, if only for the horse racing discussion.
("To Have and Have Not", BTW, was the first Xmas gift my wife bought me, on VHS, because for some reason I didn't already have it. Just remembered that.)
CK isn't a movie about deep emotion. It's deliberately cold. And the emotions it elicits are almost consistently unpleasant.
Casablanca speaks to anyone who's lost a great love, had to make a sacrificial choice with great personal impact, and more.
You sir, are out of your mind.
The only movie where Bergman is appealing is Notorious, where she gets to shed that off-puttingly chaste, demure aura and get a little rowdy.
If Casablanca gave us that Bergman, I'd love it.
Ooh, she looks like a gal I used to date in this pic, frown and everything.
"Brad, I feel like we'll wake up some day and realize we've been together for 50 years."
*dumps me two months later*