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post #301 of 921
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So, question. No more mix-tapes, no more Walkman, so no "Vol. 3." What'll the next movie be called? I vote Infinite Shuffle.

 

You might want to rethink that one.

 

post #302 of 921
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I appreciated the big laugh in my theater when Mantis asked to pet Rocket and Drax just sort of thinks about it for a moment, and then nods. Just a small moment from Dave Bautista nodding is a laugh out loud moment.

Heck yeah, for as huge as he and his performance can be Bautista also has a real talent for selling the more subtle gestures, like the series of expressions which play across his face as he processes the possibilities and then responds. It's not just his face either, it's in his vocal control too.

As much as I love The Rock and his special brand of goofiness I don't think he's on Bautista's level when it comes to the more nuanced stuff.
post #303 of 921
The biggest laugh/cheer/fistpump moment for my audience was the gloating delivery of "I'm Mary Poppins, ya'll!". The crowd went insane.
post #304 of 921
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DETECTIVE BABINEUX!

post #305 of 921
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Originally Posted by Racj82 View Post

I was robbed of my tango and cash reunion with this movie.

Otherwise, it was great.

 

Got your Cliffhanger reunion, though.

post #306 of 921
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I was robbed of my tango and cash reunion with this movie.

Otherwise, it was great.

 

post #307 of 921

I just love the fact that Star Lord now believes we're all sitting around listening to our Zunes on Earth. 

 

MICROSOFT WISHES THAT WERE TRUE

post #308 of 921
My only regret is that "Fox on the Run" was only in the trailers and not in the film. Although it does keep alive my dream of seeing it used as the theme song for that big budget Barbarella remake one of these days.
post #309 of 921
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please. That doesn't count.

I'm only mildly joking. It dawned on me while watching the movie that they were both in this together and my friend was like no shit. I was hyped for tango and cash reunion the moment Stallone set foot on screen.

Man, this is why I don't watch reviews of movies until after I watch a movie. I'm curious of the general consensus but I don't want to let it sway my enjoyment of a movie or show before the viewing. I also never care to fish for opinions on message boards or whatever either. I watch trailer, it looks good or interesting, I'm down. Past that, I rather form my own opinion. I enjoyed the hell out of this and I already no people who ditched the movie because of reviews. Fuck that.
post #310 of 921
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I just love the fact that Star Lord now believes we're all sitting around listening to our Zunes on Earth. 

MICROSOFT WISHES THAT WERE TRUE
starlord is not ready for earth.

I actually thought the movie was steering him towards being okay with returning home. Like, now that he's gotten answers he needs and he has his family now, it may not be as hard for him now.

I also love the marvel intro in the beginning. It's a giant "yes, we are the shit" graphic with all the showcasing of all their creations.

I don't want anymore Stan Lee cameos. Just end it here. I feel like they will at least try to have him in infinity wars though.

Thanos routinely taking parts of nebula away during her failures and who giving starlords mom the tumors are two of the most savage things I've heard a villain ever do.
post #311 of 921
I'm so happy that Gunn decided to gift Michael Rooker, Henry the Serial Killer himself, with this terrific role. And given how effective the last fifteen minutes of this are, I expect it's a role that will define him forever to millions of young people worldwide. When Michael Rooker passes one day decades from now, this'll be his defining moment, and his Oscar clip role. That's awesome.

I really liked the movie. Very shaggy and weird and unconventional. The muted critical reception allowed me to be truly surprised by it. I think other people are going to love this one too. Good job again, Marvel.
post #312 of 921

Not ALL the critics gave this a muted reaction...

 

post #313 of 921
I actually could hear kids falling in love with yondu during the movie even more than baby groot. They reacted to every sweet moment he had.

From Henry, to Merel on the walking dead to this. It's hard to find three more different roles to be most known for.
post #314 of 921
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My only regret is that "Fox on the Run" was only in the trailers and not in the film. Although it does keep alive my dream of seeing it used as the theme song for that big budget Barbarella remake one of these days.

There is always the chance of it being used in a Starfox movie! (Either the game or Marvel character)

I can't wait (and I'm probably not alone on this) for this to hit Blu-Ray so I can make "Star-Lord and Rocket flying in jet packs over the clouds on a blue sky with huge, goofy smiles" my wallpaper.

One thing that just hit me: "Father and Son" being the first song Peter hears using the Zune means that either Yondu had preset it so it would be the first song Peter heard, or Yondu himself had used the Zune and liked that song personally.
Either theory, if right, make the moment even more poignant and emotional.
Also emotional as hell: Yondu revealing his own parents sold him into slavery as a kid. Speaks volumes of him raising Peter and the ending.

Again, love that Rooker is being hailed as the MVP pretty much everywhere. He absolutely deserves it (and Gunn for giving Rooker the role and expanding on it).
post #315 of 921
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I can't wait (and I'm probably not alone on this) for this to hit Blu-Ray so I can make "Star-Lord and Rocket flying in jet packs over the clouds on a blue sky with huge, goofy smiles" my wallpaper.
 

hahahaha oh yeah!

post #316 of 921
Took the family to see this at 10:30 in the morning, didn't get out until 1:15 thanks to 30 min of previews.

It's a long movie but I pretty much loved every minute of it. Every character has an extended chance to be a badass, and that's what makes it loveable. I'm even on board with newbie Mantis. I just don't know if the audience would be receptive to a teenage groot in Guardians 3.
post #317 of 921
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It's a long movie but I pretty much loved every minute of it. Every character has an extended chance to be a badass, and that's what makes it loveable. I'm even on board with newbie Mantis. I just don't know if the audience would be receptive to a teenage groot in Guardians 3.

I'll bet he's an adult the next time we see him, and that's why the movie was set in 2014. (The subtitles in the beginning go from "Missouri 1980" to "34 years later.")

The movie holds up on a second viewing. I caught a matinee showing today, and knowing that the tearjerker moments were coming didn't do anything to dampen their effect.

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Edited by Reasor - 5/7/17 at 2:53pm
post #318 of 921

Apologies if this has already been posted but James Gunn's Facebook message yesterday was quite cool:

 

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I've spent the past two and a half years making a film - probably a good 95% of my non-sleeping life during that time - and sometimes it seems it all comes down to these few weeks of release in theaters. Let me tell you, it's harrowing.

The movie is doing incredibly all over the world - up nearly fifty percent over the first film in most territories, and a breakout hit in countries where it didn't do as well the first time around (hi, Korea!)

I'm exceptionally proud of how well it's doing in the countries I've visited and where I've made many friends the past few years - Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Russia, the UK. You've all welcomed me into your countries and I'm a better person for my interactions with you.

So, as we open up around the world, I would be lying if I said I don't get distracted by the numbers. The first thing I do in the morning is roll over in bed and check my phone for the morning box office reports.

But, in the end, it's not what matters to me. I write this now to let you know, but also to remind myself. Because I'm human and I sometimes forget.

When I was young I felt utterly alone, at times to the point of suicidal thoughts. I never felt like I belonged, had an incredibly difficult time connecting to other people and, despite having love around me, I had an impossible time experiencing it, or taking it in.

But I found my respite in popular entertainment - Marvel comics, science fiction and horror films, the music of The Sex Pistols, The Replacements, and Queen. Suddenly I could see past the bland suburbs where I lived into a more magical world, a world more aligned with what I imagined. Sometimes these works were simply escapist fantasies that distracted me from the difficulties of my internal life. But other times, in the strongest moments - maybe through the words of Alice Cooper or Freddie Mercury, through Cronenberg films, or even in Chewbacca's growl, I experienced something deeper - the realization that I wasn't completely alone. Someone out there was as weird and strange and whacked out as I was.

So this morning, as the internet discusses box office and its many theories around what that means (zzzzzzzz), I'd like to remember that that's truly all nonsense and noise. The only meaning the money holds for me is that I can pay my mortgage, feed my dog and cat, and continue making movies. I haven't worked two and a half years just to watch a string of numbers getting higher.

I work because I like telling stories. I work because I love the relationships I have with my collaborators. And I do it because I like connecting with people, and the easiest way I know how to do that is through filmmaking. I do it so that some kid in Thailand, or England, or Colombia, or Brazil, or Japan, or Russia, or anywhere, can hear the frequency of his or her own heart bouncing back off the Guardians.

They're a group of heartbroken misfits whose lives have been bereft of tenderness and connection and who have a nearly impossible time trusting themselves or others. But they're learning, one step at a time.

They are me. They are you. We are Groot.

And no matter how much world leaders are telling you we aren't in this together, we are. You are not alone.

Thank you so much, my Facebook friends, for supporting me over the past two and a half years, and thank you for all the messages letting us know we've keyed into the frequency of your hearts. I love you all, and I'll continue being here with you over the next three years as we create Vol. 3.
 

❤️#James

post #319 of 921
Awww. I love you Gunny.
post #320 of 921
'I'm Mary Poppins Y'all" was so perfect.

It's easily the best thing Marvel has done since the last Guardians. But I still prefer the 1st one.

Loved the big opening fight happening in the background as Groot danced.

Everything with Yondu and Rocket was great. Hate that Yondu died, really hate it. Although it is a comic book movie and he could somehow be resurrected in Infinity War I suppose.

It seemed like Drax spent alot of time making jokes or laughing. But I loved his interaction with Mantis.

Glad Peter didn't hesitate shooting Ego when he said he gave her the tumor.

Trailer wise we got Transformers, Dunkirk, Wonder Woman, Kingsman, Thor, Star Wars, Hitmans Bodyguard and the Mummy. Didn't realize Mummy isn't giving WW anytime to breath. That could spell trouble. WW and Thor both went over pretty good. But more and more I worry that Thor won't live up to the trailer.
Edited by Paul755 - 5/7/17 at 3:28pm
post #321 of 921
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'I'm Mary Poppins Y'all" was so perfect.
 

oh man

 

what a wonderful CADENCE OF RELEASES

 

first off... the visual was already goofy...

 

Quill name-dropping Poppins made it even funnier...

 

Yondu asking if that was cool just added to it...

 

then finally

 

"I'M MARY POPPINS YA'LL!!!"

 

 

A CADENCE OF RELEASES

 

I laughed pretty hard.

post #322 of 921
That was the moment of the night for my audience. Rooker stole the show and that line brought down the house.
post #323 of 921
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oh man

what a wonderful CADENCE OF RELEASES

first off... the visual was already goofy...

Quill name-dropping Poppins made it even funnier...

Yondu asking if that was cool just added to it...

then finally

"I'M MARY POPPINS YA'LL!!!"


A CADENCE OF RELEASES

I laughed pretty hard.
The fact that Yondu assumed Mary Poppins was a dude "is he cool" and Quill not correcting him helped make it work. That and all the inventive put downs for Rocket "Trash Panda" were some of my favorite bits.
post #324 of 921
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It seemed like Drax spent alot of time making
Trailer wise we got Transformers, Dunkirk, Wonder Woman, Kingsman, Thor, Star Wars, Hitmans Bodyguard and the Mummy. Didn't realize Mummy isn't giving WW anytime to breath. That could spell trouble. WW and Thor both went over pretty good. But more and more I worry that Thor won't live up to the trailer.

My theater had Two trailers for Dunkirk (the first and second trailer). That was weird.
post #325 of 921

that's really weird...

post #326 of 921

I really liked the Gamora Nebula stuff. I really really enjoyed the choice Gunn made with their dynamic. By making Nebula so incredibly sympathetic, and Gamora kind of a jerk (even though she's just trying to survive) it created a really nice interesting switcheroo of sympathies. A less interesting movie wouldn't have the stones, and they'd make Gamora the sweet sister who did everything to selflessly throw herself in the way to protect Nebula no matter what, and there would be no cost or drama or interest to their relationship because it would just be a hack empty cliche to make us like Gamora.  Sorry Katniss, but this is more interesting stuff.  It makes a subplot nobody truly cared about and gives it just enough spin to make it pretty interesting.  

post #327 of 921
I just came across someone who seems to be a feminist based on her arguments against the movie. These were her complaints

1. The golden people were portrayed as villains even though rocket stole from them.

My response was that no one was mad at them in the movie because everyone thought rocket was an asshole for doing that. They just happen to be going after are heroes. Not really villains.

2. The robot whores

I couldn't give enough of a shit about this to address it.

3. Drax and his constant you are ugly banter.

My response was that he's like that to everybody. The joke lies in the fact that he dead wrong and knows no better. He's not demeaning a female character he's just being Drax.

4. Nebula only blames Gamora for her condition.

My response was how could anyone who watched the movie think that. She blames gamora and thanos. But, the issues are different. It's not a either or thing.

5. Peter's mom got fridged.

That's just fucking bullshit. That's what is going on there and I hate that term just as much as many feminist terms often used in incorrect context.
post #328 of 921
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5. Peter's mom got fridged.
 

kinda funny that she retroactively got 'fridged' with a single line!

 

before, her illness and passing was simply a matter-of-fact tragedy of her and Peter's life that he had to come to grips with in the first movie.

 

but with Ego's casually tossed out line, it becomes "YOU WHAT??? MY MOTIVATION TO SHOOT YOU IMMEDIATELY!!! PEW PEW PEW!!!"

 

I'd say the Sovereign are most definitely sub-villains in the movie.  They (and the Ravagers) give chase to the main characters as the movie gradually sets up the real villain of the movie.  They have cause to be pissed, but they're still functionally villains in the movie.

post #329 of 921

 I did like  that the movie uses Drax lack of tact for humor instead of taking everything literally. It does make sense that someone who is that literal would be brutally honest to the point of being at least kinda of a jerk. My favorite Drax line was, "Its a mystery why they're following us."

post #330 of 921

You sure that wasn't Boone?

post #331 of 921
"My turds are famously huge."
post #332 of 921
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kinda funny that she retroactively got 'fridged' with a single line!

 

before, her illness and passing was simply a matter-of-fact tragedy of her and Peter's life that he had to come to grips with in the first movie.

 

but with Ego's casually tossed out line, it becomes "YOU WHAT??? MY MOTIVATION TO SHOOT YOU IMMEDIATELY!!! PEW PEW PEW!!!"

 

I'd say the Sovereign are most definitely sub-villains in the movie.  They (and the Ravagers) give chase to the main characters as the movie gradually sets up the real villain of the movie.  They have cause to be pissed, but they're still functionally villains in the movie.

Can you actually be a villain when your beef is completely justifiable?  

post #333 of 921
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Can you actually be a villain when your beef is completely justifiable?  

sure!

 

even thought they may be justified in their actions, they still serve the narrative as an obstacle that get in the way of the heroes.  the story isn't about them, so they're only the heroes in their own story

 

also, they're kinda snooty jerks who would kill you for the slightest offense

post #334 of 921

Also, they're portrayed as condescending and entitled, with an inflated sense of their own superiority, so the snobs-vs-slobs rules apply.

post #335 of 921

one-percenters!

 

always the villains!

post #336 of 921
Loved this. I think the first one is more easily likable, but I suspect this one will reveal more on re-watches.

The Sovereigns being a race of uppity dicks killed me. My first big laugh was at their arcade style pilot area, complete with hecklers for bad performances.

Drax asking if duct tape was okay, despite having no tape at all may have caused myself to pull a muscle from laughing.
post #337 of 921

Scotch tape!

post #338 of 921
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Loved this. I think the first one is more easily likable, but I suspect this one will reveal more on re-watches.

The Sovereigns being a race of uppity dicks killed me. My first big laugh was at their arcade style pilot area, complete with hecklers for bad performances.

Drax asking if duct tape was okay, despite having no tape at all may have caused myself to pull a muscle from laughing.

I loved the bit with the blue carpet when they go to see Yondu.
post #339 of 921
Yeah, if you can't understand snobs vs slobs, then there truly is no hope for you.
post #340 of 921
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Also, they're portrayed as condescending and entitled, with an inflated sense of their own superiority, so the snobs-vs-slobs rules apply.

they'd be the heroic leads of an Ayn Rand adaptation!

post #341 of 921
I'm still kind of cheesed off that they killed Yondu. But holy shit did they give us enough to remember him by in this one. Drax was the surprise MVP of the first movie, but Rooker easily steals the show here.
post #342 of 921

you can't talk about this movie, commodore!

 

you watched it!!!

 

Also, just in case... you might want to spoiler-tag that first sentence.  

post #343 of 921
Eh, this is the post-release thread.
post #344 of 921

I know, but I mention that not for the people actually in the thread...

 

but for those who are able to see the first sentence of the latest post on the list of threads.

 

(of course, I'm aware that your post is no longer the latest post, so... ehehehehe)

post #345 of 921
This movie was fine, at least when the kids in the theater would shut the fuck up.

Pratt's take on nuKirk is as spot on as last time.
post #346 of 921
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Also, they're portrayed as condescending and entitled, with an inflated sense of their own superiority, so the snobs-vs-slobs rules apply.

That thought crossed my mind!!! I thought to myself since everything is so retro, the snobs vs slobs rule sort of did apply. I would love to see the main gold lady even more unhinged.

"SLOOOOOOOOBS!!!"
post #347 of 921

take THAT, you crusty hot dean!!!

 

 

CORRRREEEEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!

 

 

 

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post #348 of 921
It's true, I wouldn't have minded if there was more of that. It's not too late to make that the next one, a full on Meatballs/Animal House type structure. Might be just the thing after the Infinity War.

Bill Murray as Adam Warlock.
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post #350 of 921

I like that Debicki is kinda sorta replaying her role from UNCLE

 

 

It's clearly her strength.

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