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"mother!" by Darren Aronofsky

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This has been a mysterious film which Aronofsky (who also wrote the script) shot last summer with his frequent collaborator Matthew Libatique as DP.  It has a pretty amazing cast... 

 

Jennifer Lawrence
Javier Bardem
Michelle Pfeiffer
Domhnall Gleeson
Ed Harris
Kristen Wiig
Brian Gleeson

 

All that's known is a vague synopsis and that it's a horror/thriller... guess he's going back to Black Swan territory.

 

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 A couple's relationship is tested when uninvited guests come to their home.

 

No set photos, no nothing... it's a pretty locked down film so far.  I love the title...the lower case wording and exclamation point are accurate... "mother!"  Sounds intriguing.  Aronofsky soon started smashing Jennifer Lawrence after the film wrapped and they've been together since.  Lucky guy seems to have a way with the starlets... first Rachel Weisz, now Lawrence (who is rumored to be his fiance).

 

"mother!" has an October 13 release date.

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Aronofsky soon started smashing Jennifer Lawrence 

 

I've never heard this term before and it took me a few microseconds to realize you weren't claiming Aronofsky was a woman-beater. 

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looking forward to another aronofsky fillum

 

I just bought NOAH... in 3Deeeeee

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Will it have the song by Danzig?
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First poster.

 

Trailer is supposed to drop some time today.

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That is a great poster!

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That is a great poster!

 

Yes, very unexpected, but a wonderful surprise.  Painted by fabled artist James Jean.

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Teaser dropped, looks insane in all sorts of great ways

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0NF2YP7SU8

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This movie can show me all I NEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!
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Poster number 2:

https://instagram.com/p/BXR8brnlZJF/

I would post the actual image, but don't know how to grab the image off instagram on my phone. Sorry.
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Looks good, though I was hoping the couple would be Pfeiffer and Harris with Lawrence and Bardem as the strangers.
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This looks nuts in the best way.  I'm in.

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Whenever I see a trailer for this, I keep wishing for it to be over.
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So when we first watched the trailer, my wife looked at me and asked "So is this a Rosemary's Baby remake?"  I was like "Nope."  Now I'm not so sure.

 

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There's also this color variant. 

 

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This is getting a deep throated sloppy blowjob by critics right now.

 

One such blurb:

 

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It's a dense, delirious, playful and serious work of capital A art, and easily the most ambitious film to come out of a major studio since... well, let's just say it: since Kubrick died

 

I generally don't trust hype, but when it comes to Aronofsky, I'm perfectly willing to believe it.

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doing my best to stay away from knowing anything about this until I see it

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Same.  Probably check it out Thursday.

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Can't wait, Aronofsky can do no wrong in my eyes. Even his weird messy Noah is pretty fucking brilliant. 

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Can't wait, Aronofsky can do no wrong in my eyes. Even his weird messy Noah is pretty fucking brilliant. 

Oddly enough, a review I just read essentially said that if Noah was godly, Mother is downright satanic (in terms of vibe/feeling).

And it was a glowing review.

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Noah was a train wreck but I'm still looking forward to this. Going to bug out until I've seen it, though. 

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Noah was a pretty big budget film though, his biggest.  More studio interference.  So it made sense that it was probably his weakest.  Mother!, like Black Swan is pretty much all Aronofsky.  And this time he wrote the script, which he didn't do on Swan.  Gotta be pure Aronofsky, undiluted.

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the Rosemary's Baby vibes are strong with this one.

 

I am going to expect it NOT to go the way I'm expecting because otherwise I'd think we already some people calling it out for being too derivative of Polanski's film, but man when I watched that most recent clip where Pfeiffer is encouraging Lawrence to have children...

 

Mia Farrow gonna show up out of nowhere at the end of the film and say to J-Law, "You've done well, my dear. Now let me see my beautiful granddaughter." With Satan standing beside her, nodding.

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Noah was a pretty big budget film though, his biggest.  More studio interference.  So it made sense that it was probably his weakest.  Mother!, like Black Swan is pretty much all Aronofsky.  And this time he wrote the script, which he didn't do on Swan.  Gotta be pure Aronofsky, undiluted.


Noah had some great ideas. Loved the evolution/creation montage. Its central character dynamic was way more compelling than what I would have pictured being pulled out of the source material. I give it major props for that.

 

It also had some not-so-great ideas. The movie as a whole is just too messy, and definitely could have used a firmer editing hand.

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Noah was a train wreck but I'm still looking forward to this. Going to bug out until I've seen it, though. 

Trainwreck or not, the Genesis and Deluge scenes alone save it.

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Noah didn't smack of studio interference to me, it's hands down one of the oddest big budget movies I've ever seen.
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Noah is amazing.

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Noah didn't smack of studio interference to me, it's hands down one of the oddest big budget movies I've ever seen.

 

At one point, Aronofsky was complaining the studio wanted him to shoot it a certain way, a kind of coverage that allows them to interfere more in the edit.  This hints that he was interfered with to a degree in which the end result suffered more than his other more tightly controlled films.  

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Just looked it up and I'm astonished it only came out 3 years ago. In my head it came out around the same as Robin Hood or something like that.

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Just looked it up and I'm astonished it only came out 3 years ago. In my head it came out around the same as Robin Hood or something like that.

All Fatt Crowe movies exist in the same instance of temporal simultaneity.

Didn't realize this was coming out so soon. Pretty early for an Oscarbait contender. I'll get to go in relatively fresh since I barely comprehended the first trailer. All I remember is that Bardem wants to bring life back into dis house, and Jlaw invented the Swiffer or something.
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All Fatt Crowe movies exist in the same instance of temporal simultaneity.

Didn't realize this was coming out so soon. Pretty early for an Oscarbait contender. I'll get to go in relatively fresh since I barely comprehended the first trailer. All I remember is that Bardem wants to bring life back into dis house, and Jlaw invented the Swiffer or something.

Fatt Crowe should totally be Crowe's musician name/persona.

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Oddly enough, a review I just read essentially said that if Noah was godly, Mother is downright satanic (in terms of vibe/feeling).

WANT
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Though Noah is hardly my favorite movie of his, I love how Aronofsky took the concept of the big-budget Hollywood Biblical epic and distilled it through his own filmic idiosyncrasies and interests. It's like it's one for them and one for him at the same time.

 

And I'm very confused and excited about mother! Every Aronofsky movie is an event for me.

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Wow, the reaction this is drawing out of critics is pretty wild.  Lots of potential hyperbole being thrown around, but Robbie Collin's declaration that the film is, "a surrealist, symphonically berserk feast of filth," has got my interest rising.

 

I'm expecting this is going to be more "art film" than pure "horror film," but I do hope that, like BLACK SWAN, the film is able to function and satisfy as a genre piece and also fulfill Aronofksy's artistic ambitions.

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Fatt Crowe should totally be Crowe's musician name/persona.

And Phatt Crowe for his G-Funk side project.
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And Phatt Crowe for his G-Funk side project.

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Can't wait, Aronofsky can do no wrong in my eyes. Even his weird messy Noah is pretty fucking brilliant. 

I love the first 98% of Noah with a passion. The final scene of the film doesn't work for me and seems not of-a-piece with the rest, but nearly everything else works like gangbusters. The ruins of an industrialized and destroyed Earth was the kind of religion-meets-sci-fi that gives me the good kind of chills. Fucking rock-person Seraphim. Competing views of man's role on Earth being quoted from scripture on both sides. The vision of Creation. The movie is an incredibly underrated part of his filmography.
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I'm also trying to avoid spoilers but you can tell just from the general reactions that this is going to be a divisive movie. And not just because it's "controversial" or whatever, just in a general critical sense, too. Gleiberman said it is effective as a carnival horror ride but as a film found it lacking in real substance or nuance. Which is fine, I get the sense with most Aronofsky movies that he kind of WANTS his characters to be more ciphers for his ideas than real people and wants to deliver an intense conceptual experience, first and foremost... but I worry with this one that some of the fundamental ideas are a bit too "been there done that" in terms of stuff like Rosemary's Baby and The Wicker Man.

 

We'll see. It sounds like an exciting WTF experience in the theater, if nothing else.

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Not calling out anyone in particular, but I find it funny how movie geeks guzzle the latest comic book movies and blockbusters that couldn't be more similar to what came out last year, but cautiously glare at an indie film that might be slightly similar to a 50 year old movie.  I'm just baffled really.

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I'm going to take a guess that this is NOT going to play out the way that Teaser hinted heavily at. Aronofsky don't play like that. 

 

Looks fucking splendid though. The sound design in that main trailer alone is almost worth the price of admission. 

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Not calling out anyone in particular, but I find it funny how movie geeks guzzle the latest comic book movies and blockbusters that couldn't be more similar to what came out last year, but cautiously glare at an indie film that might be slightly similar to a 50 year old movie.  I'm just baffled really.

 

I'm usually cautious and skeptical, so I'm just giving mother! the treatment I give the majority of movies not made by my absolute favorite directors.

 

I loved Arrival but am still on orange (and teal) alert from the Blade Runner 2049 promotional stuff.

 

I'm even more wary of anything that has any sort of connection to WB or Disney or extended universes, etc.

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I'm going to take a guess that this is NOT going to play out the way that Teaser hinted heavily at. Aronofsky don't play like that. 

 

Yeah, I agree. I would definitely assume we'd be seeing more criticism in those regards if this movie leaned too heavily on certain narratives like the movies I mentioned.

 

I do worry that the experience will be intense but hollow, but I hope I get a chance to see it in the theaters with a big audience.

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Darren Aronofsky apologies over Newtown mural

 

Not that it's his fault or anything.  How this happens does kind of boggle the mind though.  There's probably not a huge marketing budget for this film, this is a pretty significant stunt too.  It's not like some crew rolls up in a van with a stencil or some posters.  There must have been hours to observe and contemplate the fact several people are painting over another painting.

 

Anyway, nowt to do with the movie itself really.  Moving on.

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DESTROY ALL MARKETING

 

the trailer for this started playing before IT last night

 

and I said, "NOOOO!!!" and shut off my senses!  I'm so close!

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DESTROY ALL MARKETING

 

the trailer for this started playing before IT last night

 

and I said, "NOOOO!!!" and shut off my senses!  I'm so close!


It played before my showing of IT last night too and it was weird with a voice over with a guy saying "YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AFTER SEEING THIS MOVIE!!!" and ending with "AFTER THIS MOVIE GO STRAIGHT TO THE BOX OFFICE AND BUY TICKETS FOR THIS ONE!!!" It was really weird and people laughed at it.

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Will be seeing it Monday morning fyi, in the middle of a TIFF blitz of 10 movies in 3 days.  Haven't read any reviews or seen any trailers.

 

Almost don't want to commit to having to post my thoughts because I'll be so busy with movie-watching.

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Probably better if I err on the side of saying less rather than more.  Very burnt out right now anyway.

 

It's very good.  I didn't love it.  Feels like a low-end top 10 for 2017.  Just didn't tick enough of my boxes.  YMMV.

 

The sound design was an unexpected highlight.  Lots of subtle but ominous creaking in the house, along with... other noises.  A big chunk of the movie is either tight close-ups of Lawrence, or shots that are from her POV.  Sort of typical horror stuff, but very well done.

 

It gets very crazy in the third act, as you may have heard.  100% bonkers.  Crazier than the end of Requiem.

 

There was a Q&A with Aronofsky afterwards, and he was unexpectedly open about explaining things.  So it seems like he wants people to be in the dark going in, but once they've actually seen the movie, he'll tell you all about it.  Which probably means word will get out pretty quickly about certain things.

 

Everyone who attended the screening received this card:

 

 

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Does she get eaten?
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