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post #1451 of 1571
It's best to just go, "You know what, you're 100% right and I completely agree."
post #1452 of 1571
very well



cameron really is a genius

he's doing exactly what it takes to make sure he's he underdog by the time his next AVADAH and Terminator productions come out

people will count him out and underestimate him

AND THIS IS HOW HE WINS!!!
post #1453 of 1571
I can't believe there are 37 unaired seasons of Carter's WW.
post #1454 of 1571
Well, it's not like people are asking for her autograph because she was in those contact lens commercials.
post #1455 of 1571
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very well



cameron really is a genius

he's doing exactly what it takes to make sure he's he underdog by the time his next AVADAH and Terminator productions come out

people will count him out and underestimate him

AND THIS IS HOW HE WINS!!!

You know it's funny because I really don't have any interest in any more Avatars and I don't think anyone else does but I swear to god when it comes out it will set another record and I will end up seeing it and then probably buying the extended 3 disc edition. Fucking Voodoo.

post #1456 of 1571
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Well, it's not like people are asking for her autograph because she was in those contact lens commercials.

I am. If it wasn't for her making me aware I would still be walking around bumping into shit.

post #1457 of 1571
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You know it's funny because I really don't have any interest in any more Avatars and I don't think anyone else does but I swear to god when it comes out it will set another record and I will end up seeing it and then probably buying the extended 3 disc edition. Fucking Voodoo.

exactly!

 

I make fun of AVADAH relentlessly...

 

and yet how did I end up with the 2D AND 3D bluray???

 

very proud that I never purchased that extended version...

 

BUT IF THEY RELEASED IT IN 3D and 4K.....

post #1458 of 1571
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BUT IF THEY RELEASED IT IN 3D and 4K.....

 

This would be a neat trick, considering that tech doesn't exist and probably never will (or at least not for another decade).  We'd need a whole new HDMI standard and a major computational overhaul in the entire digital chain to get enough horsepower to reproduce actual 4k 3D.

 

Last time I looked into this issue, the HDMI 2.x standard and modern televisions/receivers weren't even at the halfway point of the necessary bandwidth/processing power.  The jump from 1080p/3D to 4k/3D is colossal.  

 

**I still consider Avatar to be one of the most impressive theater viewing experiences of my life.  I thought it looked amazing, and I was blown away by the 3D.  I own multiple 3D Tvs in no small part because of how impressed I was.  The script I give a D+/C- to, but goddamn was that a new way to view movies.  It's sad that we saw so few natively filmed 3D movies in the wake of Avatar, as post film 3D conversions has been hit or  miss, at best.  

post #1459 of 1571

What was Cameron's point again?  That Gadot was too sexy to be Wonder Woman or something?

post #1460 of 1571
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What was Cameron's point again?  That Gadot was too sexy to be Wonder Woman or something?

 

Yup.  That was it.  

post #1461 of 1571
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This would be a neat trick, considering that tech doesn't exist and probably never will (or at least not for another decade).  We'd need a whole new HDMI standard and a major computational overhaul in the entire digital chain to get enough horsepower to reproduce actual 4k 3D.

 

Last time I looked into this issue, the HDMI 2.x standard and modern televisions/receivers weren't even at the halfway point of the necessary bandwidth/processing power.  The jump from 1080p/3D to 4k/3D is colossal.  

 

**I still consider Avatar to be one of the most impressive theater viewing experiences of my life.  I thought it looked amazing, and I was blown away by the 3D.  I own multiple 3D Tvs in no small part because of how impressed I was.  The script I give a D+/C- to, but goddamn was that a new way to view movies.  It's sad that we saw so few natively filmed 3D movies in the wake of Avatar, as post film 3D conversions has been hit or  miss, at best.  

 

I meant the extended version in 3D and 4K separately!

 

I know there's no 4K 3D!

 

don't you Sheev-splain to me, your highness!!!

post #1462 of 1571
"Computational overhaul in the entire digital chain."

Does anyone speak English?
post #1463 of 1571
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"Computational overhaul in the entire digital chain."

Does anyone speak English?

 

Scotty, we need more power!

post #1464 of 1571
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

What was Cameron's point again?  That Gadot was too sexy to be Wonder Woman or something?

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Yup.  That was it.  


With a hilarious and underexamined side order of "my ex-wife was never that hot."
post #1465 of 1571

Cameron likes his female warriors one way and one way only. Don't argue with him!

 

I'm sure if we all went into James Cameron's dreams at night, they would be filled with this.

 

post #1466 of 1571
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This would be a neat trick, considering that tech doesn't exist and probably never will (or at least not for another decade).  We'd need a whole new HDMI standard and a major computational overhaul in the entire digital chain to get enough horsepower to reproduce actual 4k 3D.

 

Last time I looked into this issue, the HDMI 2.x standard and modern televisions/receivers weren't even at the halfway point of the necessary bandwidth/processing power.  The jump from 1080p/3D to 4k/3D is colossal.  

 

**I still consider Avatar to be one of the most impressive theater viewing experiences of my life.  I thought it looked amazing, and I was blown away by the 3D.  I own multiple 3D Tvs in no small part because of how impressed I was.  The script I give a D+/C- to, but goddamn was that a new way to view movies.  It's sad that we saw so few natively filmed 3D movies in the wake of Avatar, as post film 3D conversions has been hit or  miss, at best.  


What? No you wouldn't. They'd probably have to drop framepacking as the compression type for 3D, but it's totally doable. This actually came up at work today because a lot of phones have hard limits on frame height for video decoding, and that results in some pretty dramatic resolution drops when you're doing 3D 360 video for mobile VR. The idea that we're playing with is just encoding it in subsequent frames instead of TnB or SbS, so even numbered frames are right eye, odd numbered frames are left. You double your framerate, and tweak your decoder to read ahead and show both frames at once. HDMI 2.0 does 4k at 60fps, you only need it to do 48fps for a 24fps 3D movie. You make your display interlace (for passive) or swap (for active) the odd/even frames, and Bob's your uncle. It's not even really a new codec, it's just some additional header info that says 'I'm 3D, do this with my frames'. Anything with a hardware h265 decoder (which is everything that can play 4K blu-ray as it is) could handle this. And the display handling could probably be done with a firmware update on any 4K 3DTV now (though it'd look better on the active ones, obviously).

post #1467 of 1571
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Well, it's not like people are asking for her autograph because she was in those contact lens commercials.

I for one was impressed by her subtle and nuanced acting. 

 

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"Computational overhaul in the entire digital chain."

Does anyone speak English?

Que?

 

  Anyway, my guess is that Cameron is jealous that people are talking about an action movie with a woman in the starring role that he didn't make. No one is saying you can't like Aliens and Wonder Woman.


Edited by Chaz - 9/30/17 at 4:18pm
post #1468 of 1571
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You know it's funny because I really don't have any interest in any more Avatars and I don't think anyone else does but I swear to god when it comes out it will set another record and I will end up seeing it and then probably buying the extended 3 disc edition. Fucking Voodoo.

Yup. Seems like I've been reading people don't care about AVATAR for years, but you know all of these people will be first in line. It's a new Cameron movie with basically a unlimited budget. How can you not see it? He's the one filmmaker that always delivers on the theater experience.


Back to WW. Love it and the camera loves Gadot.
post #1469 of 1571

Great video about the earnestness of Wonder Woman (and Spider-Man 2) versus the bathos of Marvel movies (specifically Civil War and Doctor Strange):

 

post #1470 of 1571
Ollllllllld! Oldsmobile!
post #1471 of 1571
Oh sorry. Uh, talk about it again?
post #1472 of 1571

we already did!

post #1473 of 1571
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we already did!

cool
post #1474 of 1571

aye

post #1475 of 1571
Again again?
post #1476 of 1571
Bort's bored so we all must suffer.
post #1477 of 1571
Ah, sorry to have disturbed you.

Bye then.
post #1478 of 1571

but I like suffering...

 

don't go bort

 

 

here is about where the conversation on bathos started when JK post that video:

 

http://www.chud.com/community/t/159358/wonder-woman-post-release-discussion/900#post_4312794

post #1479 of 1571
Enabler.
post #1480 of 1571
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Enabler.

 

 

post #1481 of 1571

Its the obvious video to make, but its still fun.

 


Edited by Chaz - 11/24/17 at 6:38pm
post #1482 of 1571
Finally watching this for the first time. It's a noble effort, but it's weightless and boring. It feels like I've been watching it for hours, and about to infiltrate the German gala.

Is it almost over?
post #1483 of 1571

I'm surprised WB hasn't announced at least six sequels to WW yet.

post #1484 of 1571

This is nice, comic writer Gail Simone on why openly gay screenwriter Allan Heinberg needs to get more credit for his work on Wonder Woman in light of the character's long relationship with the LGBT community:

 

post #1485 of 1571
Simone is awesome.

I saw her at a women in comics panel at a convention a few years ago. She got a generic "how to make it in comics question" and gave an equally generic "you have to totally commit to it" response. Which led promptly to an "Um, actually" by the web comic writer on the panel because she still worked another job and made a web comic. Gail wanted to rip that chicks head off, what a time to be alive.
post #1486 of 1571
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Finally watching this for the first time. It's a noble effort, but it's weightless and boring. It feels like I've been watching it for hours, and about to infiltrate the German gala.

Is it almost over?

Speaking of weightless, what did you think of that tarmac-in-the-dark-fiery-CGI-battle ending?
post #1487 of 1571
It's a weightless movie that benefits greatly from the negative reactions towards BvS and MoS.
post #1488 of 1571

I don't think the movie is weightless.

 

I also don't think the movie particularly benefited from the negativity towards batsup and steelman.

 

Had those movies been embraced and people excited about DC's stuff, I assume WONDER WOMAN (as is) could've done even better.

 

As it is, I feel like the negative response to the other two movies essentially became irrelevant to WONDER WOMAN since the film itself was pretty much self-contained to its own concerns.

post #1489 of 1571
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Speaking of weightless, what did you think of that tarmac-in-the-dark-fiery-CGI-battle ending?

 

I couldn't stop giggling at David Thewlis as a CGI-armored god of war. I recognize the casting was done deliberately to throw viewers off the trail - and he's great otherwise - but man was that silly as fuck.

 

Also, Gal Gadot running in place against a CGI environment, dodging projectiles and shit. It was just incredibly fucking bad. Gadot is very charming, but she's got a dainty, waif-ish way about her that makes her entirely unbelievable as an action star.

post #1490 of 1571
"and I believe in LOVE"

"LIIIIIIIIIIIIESSSSS!!!!!"
post #1491 of 1571
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

I don't think the movie is weightless.

 

I also don't think the movie particularly benefited from the negativity towards batsup and steelman.

 

Had those movies been embraced and people excited about DC's stuff, I assume WONDER WOMAN (as is) could've done even better.

 

As it is, I feel like the negative response to the other two movies essentially became irrelevant to WONDER WOMAN since the film itself was pretty much self-contained to its own concerns.

 

I don't think the movie is weightless, but it absolutely benefited from negativity towards the rest of the DCU.  A whole-hearted embrace of it from the outset would have hypothetically provided a different sort of boost.  But as is the crappy reception of the rest of the franchise combined with the gender threshold being crossed to create a unified narrative: FINALLY!

post #1492 of 1571

NO!!!

 

LIIIIIIIIIESSSSS!!!!

 

 

I think the fact that Wonder Woman finally got her own movie and it was embraced by audiences in a very particular time in American pop-culture got it to where it went.

 

If the movie benefited from the bad vibes around steelman and batsup, I'd think it was just giving the conversations around it between movie and comic nerds online more of a mocking energy.

 

But for general audiences?  Not much.

post #1493 of 1571

Wonder Woman is good because it was good. There I said it.

post #1494 of 1571
LIIIIIIIIIIEEESSSS!!!

(hurls tank shards)
post #1495 of 1571
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LIIIIIIIIIIEEESSSS!!!

(hurls tank shards)

Now is that before or after you make armor out of it? And should I pardon the woman who makes poison after I have killed hundreds of soldiers?

post #1496 of 1571

you know what I want!

 

DO IT!

post #1497 of 1571
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

NO!!!

 

LIIIIIIIIIESSSSS!!!!

 

 

I think the fact that Wonder Woman finally got her own movie and it was embraced by audiences in a very particular time in American pop-culture got it to where it went.

 

If the movie benefited from the bad vibes around steelman and batsup, I'd think it was just giving the conversations around it between movie and comic nerds online more of a mocking energy.

 

But for general audiences?  Not much.

 

I don't think these things are operating in opposition.  Part of the reason the DCU had been struggling was that it couldn't catch a break with critics or gain much traction with the nerd community that should provide its enthusiastic base.  Critics were ready to say FINALLY because a female superhero got a legit shot at the big time.  Nerds were ready to say it because it represented a chance to salvage the current incarnations of the most recognizable superhero pantheon there is.  And regular folks got a solid 3 star blockbuster with beautiful people being charming and heroic.  No one had cause to hate, which may have been different if BvS had been a success.  The hardcore nerds, at the least, may have been more apt to bring misogynist backlash to the party instead of onion dip, if there wasn't an implicit understanding that they needed The Girl to save their dudebro heroes from their own shitty movies.  

post #1498 of 1571

NOOOO!!!!

​IT CANNOT BEEEEEE!!!

 

post #1499 of 1571

Wonder Woman?

Pretty good.

post #1500 of 1571
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Wonder Woman?
Pretty.

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