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post #1 of 346
Thread Starter 

Guys, it's almost June. We should turn the calendar.

 

I'll get it started with this: Terrell Owens tweets to a fake account of Jacksonville Jaguars GM David Caldwell about needing a receiver.

 


Edited by tcjsavannah - 5/23/17 at 5:12am
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If he un-retires, has a solid year, wins Comeback Player and re-retires, then surely they have to induct him!

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Many people are saying the Browns did a great job this offseason. I'll take it! Here are some predictions we can all laugh at later:

 

DIVISION WINNERS

 

AFC North - Steelers

AFC South - Texans

AFC West - Raiders

AFC East - Patriots

 

NFC North - Packers

NFC South - Bucs

NFC West - Seahawks

NFC East - Cowboys

 

SUPER BOWL - Pats / Cowboys

CHAMPS - Patriots yet again

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Many people are saying the Browns did a great job this offseason. I'll take it! Here are some predictions we can all laugh at later:

 

DIVISION WINNERS

 

AFC North - Steelers

AFC South - Texans

AFC West - Raiders

AFC East - Patriots

 

NFC North - Packers

NFC South - Bucs

NFC West - Seahawks

NFC East - Cowboys

 

SUPER BOWL - Pats / Cowboys

CHAMPS - Patriots yet again

 

Steelers is such a safe, non-choice.

 

Texans is probably likely, given what a dumpster fire the rest of that division is. I won't sleep on the Titans, but their schedule is brutal.

 

Raiders is the most interesting choice, and I agree with it. I think Oakland would have gone farther last season if Carr hadn't gotten hurt. I think Lynch becomes a huge locker room guy and ignites a fire in their bellies.

 

Patriots - Fucking yawn.

 

Packers - Yeah, whatever. Rodgers broke up with his girlfriend so he'll probably be really good this year.

 

Bucs - Nah, I say the Falcons again.

 

Seahawks - I think Arizona bounces back (no bias).

 

Cowboys - Yeah, probably.

 

I have no predictions for the playoffs or the Super Bowl, yet. This could be an interesting year.

post #5 of 346
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 Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano
Brock Osweiler asked why he thinks he's good enough to start: 
"I think the proof is in the film for the past two years."

GO BROWNS!

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Whose film is he referring to? His film, Cleveland's or both?

 

Either way...

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It'd be sweet as hell if the Vikings managed to pull shit off this year, especially considering that we've got the next Superbowl.

 

Vain hope, I know.

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Looks like Carolina signed a new offensive lineman.

 

Oh, wait... that's Kelvin Benjamin...

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Brandon Jacobs says Jim Harbaugh didn't know anything about coaching during his time in SF - http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/jim-harbaugh-san-francisco-49ers-news-brandon-jacobs/1hzds5sdp33nj1lx5zqgeusg45 

 

Ah, Brandon Jacobs, the ultimate "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" player. Oh, and his stats with the Niners?

 

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 The running back's final stats with the 49ers ended up being five carries for 7 yards in two games. ​

Way to go, Brandon.

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I coached and was on the board with Brandon for 2 years in our local youth league. He was not afraid to give his opinion on things. He said he would never coach in a rival league... And then left to create his own rival league. Lol.
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ESPN just laid off John Clayton.

 

Are they fucking crazy?

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Thread Starter 

Yes.

 

And out of touch.

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Jets did a player swap with the Browns. Not a big deal, but the Deadspin headline is hilarious:

 

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Originally Posted by tcjsavannah View Post
 

Yes.

 

And out of touch.


Clayton's response on Twitter: "I'm keeping the ponytail." NFL Network better get to signin'

post #15 of 346
I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) that Clayton will still be broadcasting via an ESPN affiliate radio station in Seattle, so his non-compete will still be in effect.

But that sounds like bullshit and shouldn't hold up in court if Clayton had to battle to get another job.
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I know some folks were worried about Joe Mixon, but now that I know Pac-Man Jones has taken him under his wing, I'm confident he'll be juuuuuuust fine - http://espn1530.iheart.com/onair/james-rapien-56340/adam-jones-and-joe-mixon-went-15882326/

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ESPN just laid off John Clayton.

 

Are they fucking crazy?

How long before ESPN ceases to exist??

 

I know its probably not gonna happen, but honestly the network is unwatchable even if you are a big sports fan. 

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Hank Williams to return with new rendition of "All my Rowdy Friends" to Monday Night Football:

 

http://deadline.com/2017/06/monday-night-football-hank-williams-jr-rowdy-friends-returns-espn-1202108541/

 

John Clayton still fired.

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I don't understand this move, at all. I guarantee you Hank Williams Jr. does not have legs as nice as Carrie Underwood or Faith Hill.

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Hell, he doesn't even have legs as nice as Jon Gruden.

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Hank Williams to return with new rendition of "All my Rowdy Friends" to Monday Night Football:

 

http://deadline.com/2017/06/monday-night-football-hank-williams-jr-rowdy-friends-returns-espn-1202108541/

 


2011:

"Our president is like Hitler!"

*fired from job*

 

2017:

"Our president is like Hitler!"

*applause*

 

 

I'm surprised he agreed to return after all of that stuff happened...I guess it's a "family tradition" or something. (Sorry that's about the only other HWjr song I know)

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A new profile of Vince Young is up at SI.com, and it's tremendous:

 

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The more Young talks, though, the less clear it is how far along he is in this transformation. Occasionally he sounds like the young man some of his old coaches describe as lacking self-awareness, as when he explains that he’s applied to trademark the phrase Make Vince Great Again. He says he sent a text message to the pregnant Serena Williams joking about how “that should be my baby.” Even when he exposes his vulnerabilities, revealing that he’s barely watched any football since he retired, he can’t help but say, “I’d see a quarterback and be like, Dude is garbage, and I’m over here in the kitchen cooking turkey necks!?” 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/06/27/vince-young-cfl-saskatchewan-finances-bankruptcy-titans 

post #24 of 346

Finished the LA Rams "All or Nothing" on Amazon Prime this past weekend. I never finished the first one with the Cardinals. Damned interesting stuff--I felt bad for that team and I guess I didn't realize that they lost so many games in the 4th quarter. I have no less sympathy for Jeff Fisher. He just seemed to me like he was "business as usual" no matter how much they lost, and when his son even tells him, "I would wait for 4 more weeks before you start doing any upgrades," his dad just laughed it off. And then he was fired after that game. Also got to see it in 4K with my new TV, which was amazing.

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I watched the first episode. I had forgotten Fisher's legendary "I'm not fuckin' goin' 7-9!" speech. Don't worry Jeff  ... you didn't.

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Finished the LA Rams "All or Nothing" on Amazon Prime this past weekend. I never finished the first one with the Cardinals.

 

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Yeah yeah, I know. I will. I think I started watching it when football was just starting back up or something and I was NFL'd out.

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Agree with you Martianman, the Rams All or Nothing is (sorry DT) definitely more interesting than the one with the Cardinals. I guess a lot has to do with the "train wreck" aspect of the whole thing. When they did the one with AZ. they were a good team and made the playoffs- NFC title game if I recall- the Rams were a disaster, I mean I still can't believe as shitty as the Rams were last year they were actually 3-1 at one point. 

 

If Goff turns out to be a bust-which I personally think is way to early to say even though many here in SoCal think he is- the Rams are going to be bad for years, even after they move into their new state of the art stadium. 

post #29 of 346
No apology necessary. I've been waiting to get into the Rams series until I can binge it.

I'm positive that watching the team fall apart from the inside out is more intriguing than a team that was expected to go far. Struggles and drama are always way more interesting than straight happiness (in terms of storytelling).
post #30 of 346

About halfway through All or Nothing right now. The suspenseful music playing during the hour-long Bucs-Rams rain delay in Week 2 might be the all-time "NFL Films trying to manufacture drama out of nothing" moment.

post #31 of 346
I think the NFL will choose very carefully before selecting a team for season 3.
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That series is much more engrossing that the HBO Hard Knocks series. Training camp isn't nearly as interesting as following a team throughout the entire season.

 

Watching Jeff Fisher tell his coaching staff and then the players that he was fired was difficult to sit through. I really felt for him, his staff, and the players. 

 

As for who they should pick next season, how about the LA Chargers. ? They're going to be playing their home games in the stadium that doesn't hold more 26, 000 people. 

post #33 of 346
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That series is much more engrossing that the HBO Hard Knocks series. Training camp isn't nearly as interesting as following a team throughout the entire season.

 

Watching Jeff Fisher tell his coaching staff and then the players that he was fired was difficult to sit through. I really felt for him, his staff, and the players. 

 

As for who they should pick next season, how about the LA Chargers. ? They're going to be playing their home games in the stadium that doesn't hold more 26, 000 people. 


YES. Every team so far has been a West Coast team, and I think the LA Chargers should be next with their current turmoil, then the Las Vegas Raiders with their move and everything that's happening with them.

 

Finished the Cardinals season yesterday, and man it was heartbreaking at the end, even though I knew the result. I really like Patrick Peterson. I wish the Steelers would have drafted him. And I want some of Freeney's chicken.

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Kirk Cousins thinks he's worth more than a 5 year, $110 million deal.

 

That, or he high-balled the shit out of Washington, which only worked to get him tagged.

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Cousins hates being there and whatever they offer doesn't really matter. Courtesy of Jason Reid, former Skins beat writer for WaPo:

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@JReidESPN  

Been saying this since Cousins became the starter: Three people who know him well say he'll never sign long-term with Skins.
If they wanna keep him, they'll have to keep tagging him. So far, 2 for 2.
Bruh. They no he doesn't want to be there. He's got Cali, specifically SF, on his mind.

This isn't about getting more money from Washington or Cousins fighting for his brothers in the union. This is about wanting out.

Even if he plays poorly this season, he pockets $44 million. And here's the best thing for Cousins: Kyle has worked here. He knows.

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20089114/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-become-first-qb-repeat-franchise-tag-player

 

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Team president Bruce Allen said in a statement that Cousins was "obviously important to our team and fans" and detailed the team's offer made to the quarterback. He also talked about the decision in a video posted on the team's website but referred to Cousins on five occasions as "Kurt" instead of Kirk.

 

The whole idea that he's the guy that will turn the 49ers' fortunes around next year is ludicrous.

post #37 of 346
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Cousins hates being there and whatever they offer doesn't really matter. Courtesy of Jason Reid, former Skins beat writer for WaPo:

 

He's going to get 144% of his salary next year if they tag him.

 

Just fucking cut him, Washington. Jesus.

post #38 of 346

He'll end up in San Fran and get a big contract then, like almost every other free agent QB who signs a big contract with hopes of turning a franchise around, will end up sucking, getting cut, and we'll probably never hear from him again; just like Scott Mitchell. 

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He'll end up in San Fran and get a big contract then, like almost every other free agent QB who signs a big contract with hopes of turning a franchise around, will end up sucking, getting cut, and we'll probably never hear from him again; just like Scott Mitchell. 

I literally have no memory of Scott Mitchell. His career has faded away. Like tears in the rain...
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So, Ezekiel Elliott.

 

Still no word if the NFL's findings on his domestic violence case will result in a suspension. And now he's caught in controversy over a bar fight that resulted in someone's nose getting busted. And now he's been convicted of a misdemeanor for speeding (which he plans to appeal).

 

There's already word that the Cowboys are looking at their options once his rookie deal is up, and they're already over dealing with his shit. The Cowboys are done dealing with someone's character issues. Someone lock this fuckin' kid in his room. 

post #41 of 346
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So, Ezekiel Elliott.

 

Still no word if the NFL's findings on his domestic violence case will result in a suspension. And now he's caught in controversy over a bar fight that resulted in someone's nose getting busted. And now he's been convicted of a misdemeanor for speeding (which he plans to appeal).

 

There's already word that the Cowboys are looking at their options once his rookie deal is up, and they're already over dealing with his shit. The Cowboys are done dealing with someone's character issues. Someone lock this fuckin' kid in his room. 

If the Cowboys are over this guy before his second season, I shudder to think what we don't know about.

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I literally have no memory of Scott Mitchell. His career has faded away. Like tears in the rain...

I, being a longtime Lions fan, have way too many memories of Scott Mitchell.
post #43 of 346
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post
 

Kirk Cousins thinks he's worth more than a 5 year, $110 million deal.

 

That, or he high-balled the shit out of Washington, which only worked to get him tagged.

 

And $53 million guaranteed! Who does he think he is?? Except that's not quite the numbers.

 

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The deal claimed by the Skins is painted as a five-year extension, with $53 million guaranteed. That sounds great! Unless you consider what Cousins is basically guaranteed already.

 

Cousins will make $23.9 million on the franchise tag in 2017. (And while the Skins purposefully didn’t make this clear, their $53M guarantee includes that franchise tag guarantee they’re already committed to.) In 2018, to keep him from leaving, the Skins have the option of franchising him again, or, more realistically, giving him the transition tag, which would pay $28.8 million. The franchise tag this season and the transition tag next season amount to $52.7 million. That’s just $300,000 shy of the $53 million Washington offered and is touting as the highest-ever guarantee for a QB.

...

The proposal also called for Cousins to essentially play for less in the seasons of 2019 through 2022. His average salary would have been in the low $20-million range, one person with knowledge of the offer said, during years that could be considered his prime.

 

To follow this to its logical conclusion, the Skins offered Cousins an extra $300,000 if he would only commit to trapping himself in four extra, non-guaranteed seasons of below-market salary. Then they went and bragged about their offer, as if their fans wouldn’t see through it.

 

Kirk Cousins is a perfectly fine -- not elite (yet?), but pretty good -- QB who'll likely earn an above-market contract somewhere if he performs anything like he has the past two years, because (i) that's how the timing's landed on the always-sparse QB market and (ii) Bruce Allen is a dumbass whom no one likes but his boss, MiniTrump. I have no doubt Allen day-drinks at the office. "Kurt" after 4 years? Christ.

 

And this attempt to paint Cousins as greedy and unreasonable is the same bullshit attempt at PR face-saving as that embarrassing firing of GM McCloughan this Spring while leaking rumors of his being a current drunk and "a disaster." No, by all accounts he was just more popular than Allen, and Allen couldn't have that.

 

This team is so fucking stupid. Why did I have to grow up in the Gibbs era.

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Yeah, my wording in my previous post wasn't great. Made it sound like Cousins thinks he's hot shit, and he's not. He was definitely deliberately high-balling the Redskins into cutting him, and instead they slapped him with the tag again.

 

He's a serviceable QB. Shit, I'd take him in a post-Palmer Arizona, rather than seeing what sort of disaster Blaine Gabbert will be. Cousins clearly does not want to be in Washington ("not enough zeroes" is a phrase I've heard used on social media), but they don't have any options. It'll be interesting to see if they try and franchise him a third time -- he'll be due 144% of his last salary.

 

Or maybe they'll tank, Cousins will get an easy pay check this season, move on to somewhere else next season, and the 'Skins will draft their next RGIII.

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It's more like the Skins low-balled him, the past 2 years, and he didn't bother counter-offering until they came up with something even sniffing market value. And hey, that franchise tag is good money at that position. (Instead of "too low, how about this," his people said, "That tag is worth a shit-ton guaranteed. So try again." Skins didn't, really. Notice Allen only touting their May offer. MAY.) The Skins were NEVER going to cut him. For whom, Colt McCoy? Nate Sudfeld? And now, because Allen 'backward R' dumb, Kirk's going to get paid well above market value, because it's always a seller's market for unrestricted free agent franchise QBs. Good for him, well played.

 

They're not going to franchise him a third year. Well, I don't think they're that stupid. At most, a transition tag, which will let them match another team's offer, but that doesn't even come with the compensatory draft picks if (when) he goes elsewhere.

 

Allen is so shit at his job, he's now made the Skins QB performing poorly this year the front office's rooting interest.

 

Cousins will probably do pretty well, but our defense will keep us out of most games, and garbage time will inflate Kirk's numbers, so we'll be 6-10 or possibly 7-9 (fingers crossed!) while he gets to set more team records then get paid real $$ by someplace less institutionally dysfunctional.

post #46 of 346

The thing that brings me the most joy in this Skins-Cousins debacle is that you can bet money that Allen and Snyder think they are gaming this thing just right.  All of the chatter points otherwise, but they know.  Here is the thing...the one room that Danny Snyder will walk in that he doesn't own is the NFL Owners room.  And in two years, they are going to loathe him.  He will have single-handedly driven up the cost of the QB position in the NFL by $4-5 million dollars with his stupidity.  And I hope those bloated, obscenely wealthy assholes let Danny know how much they hate both his incompetence and his dysfunctional and mismanaged organization.  His antics may have been cute when it didn't affect them directly.  But starting next fall, it is going to absolutely affect ALL OF THEM in the pocketbook.

 

Imagine 31 owners hoping that Cousins bombs out this year.


Edited by First Class 782 - 7/18/17 at 1:21pm
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The thing that brings me the most joy in this Skins-Cousins debacle is that you can bet money that Allen and Snyder think they are gaming this thing just right.  All of the chatter points otherwise, but they know.  Here is the thing...the one room that Danny Snyder will walk in that he doesn't own is the NFL Owners room.  And in two years, they are going to loathe him.  He will have single-handedly driven up the cost of the QB position in the NFL by $4-5 million dollars with his stupidity.  And I hope those bloated obscenely wealthy asshole let Danny know how much they hate his incompetence and dysfunctional organization.  It was cute when it didn't affect them.  But starting next fall, it is going to absolutely affect ALL OF THEM.

 

Imagine 31 owners hoping that Cousins bombs out this year.

It's fascinating how the Snyder Bunch seems more interested in impressing reporters (which they never do) than retaining their players (which they also never do).

 

If anybody wants to give me $44 million guaranteed then insult me, drop me a DM.

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So, Ezekiel Elliott.

 

Still no word if the NFL's findings on his domestic violence case will result in a suspension. And now he's caught in controversy over a bar fight that resulted in someone's nose getting busted. And now he's been convicted of a misdemeanor for speeding (which he plans to appeal).

 

There's already word that the Cowboys are looking at their options once his rookie deal is up, and they're already over dealing with his shit. The Cowboys are done dealing with someone's character issues. Someone lock this fuckin' kid in his room. 

 

 

On the plus side for Elliot, at least the nose he broke belonged to a dude. 

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Then he'd proceed to tear his MCL in training camp. 

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